LizardWizard
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Most of the content (aside from retinues), from Legacy of Rome seem like flavor pack material. Byzaboos need their fix.
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Grand Strategy Crusader Kings III
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I'm torn on it being a "legacy of Rome" type thing; as much as I love to byzaboo it up, it just won't feel worth it until they add imperial govts.
CaffeineConquistador
Learned
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Wow, interest in this one died off fast
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
Not much to talk about, really. Stable release and solid foundation for subsequent content additions, but overall a barebones experience at this point.
vonAchdorf
Arcane
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It's solid and stable, but despite the new mechanics, map painting is really the only thing you can do in the current game, which runs against my preferred CK3 play style.
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You'd expect PDX to push out more patches but uuuh...
thesecret1
Arcane
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As with any modern paradox realease, you play it once, then wait a year or two to let them shovel their DLCs and for modders to make interesting mods
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The mechanics as they currently stand make the game both too easy and very annoying to play.
I don't know how much DLC will help here if their design principles are shifting so far into the sand.
fantadomat
Arcane
I still haven't played stellaris a second time. Also i am happy that it has the lowest player base at this point.
Heroic Liberator
Arcane
A good trade-focused DLC will break it or make it for me. Otherwise, with no incentives (or content) to play tall, it's all just a shiny blobfest.
No big drama at release, the game is relatively stable and moderately entertaining. Compare that to Imperator 's release, which was massively entertaining. The release, not the game itself.
Zero Credibility
Arcane
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Yep, there's just very little to the game at this point. I mean, what does it have that CK2 did not when it started? Well, it has retinues (kind of), religion reformation / creation, life focuses (again, kind of) and old gods starting date? And that's it, I think? Everything else is going to be sold to us as DLCs. Again.
Anyway, every time I think about this game I find something else that pisses me off about it. This time, it's that there is no lasting effects of warfare whatsoever. You can raid a county repeatedly with nothing but a small dip in its development, if even that. Hell, I don't remember there even being an opinion penalty for the guy whose lands you just burned down. Conquered a new county in a devastating war? Just park your marshal there for a couple of years, and it will produce taxes and men like it was always yours. This is not only silly, but it also greatly contributes to the snowball effect both for the player and the AI. There are just no consequences to war in this game.
Granted, CK2 was not great in this regard either, but it was still better than this. Conquered counties could be stuck with decades of reduced taxes and levies. Raiding could burn down buildings and eventually holdings. Sieges would reduce prosperity and eventually depopulate counties. Here, we get what exactly? Control can to raised to 100 with a decent marshal in a couple of years. Development can maybe fall a little, but development in general has such a small effect on taxes / levies that's not even worth mentioning. Which is another problem, development means so little that besides the special buildings there really is not that much of a difference between Constantinople and some ass end of nowhere in Siberia.
Anyway, every time I think about this game I find something else that pisses me off about it. This time, it's that there is no lasting effects of warfare whatsoever. You can raid a county repeatedly with nothing but a small dip in its development, if even that. Hell, I don't remember there even being an opinion penalty for the guy whose lands you just burned down. Conquered a new county in a devastating war? Just park your marshal there for a couple of years, and it will produce taxes and men like it was always yours. This is not only silly, but it also greatly contributes to the snowball effect both for the player and the AI. There are just no consequences to war in this game.
Granted, CK2 was not great in this regard either, but it was still better than this. Conquered counties could be stuck with decades of reduced taxes and levies. Raiding could burn down buildings and eventually holdings. Sieges would reduce prosperity and eventually depopulate counties. Here, we get what exactly? Control can to raised to 100 with a decent marshal in a couple of years. Development can maybe fall a little, but development in general has such a small effect on taxes / levies that's not even worth mentioning. Which is another problem, development means so little that besides the special buildings there really is not that much of a difference between Constantinople and some ass end of nowhere in Siberia.
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The province will pay 100% taxes BUT ALSO shit out rebellions every couple of years as long as it is wrong religion/wrong culture.
Zariusz
Liturgist
Zariusz
Liturgist
Norfleet
Moderator
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The rebellions of which will tank control constantly, yes. You can avoid this by assigning someone of right religion and culture to the province as a vassal. And then collecting 100% of it anyway via Guantanamo Bay Mode.
fantadomat
Arcane
It looks like the player base did die out pretty fast. Any good mods that make the game tolerable?
Zariusz
Liturgist
I believe that for a positive answer for this question we must wait another year.
I found this, though i didnt tried it.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2238122607&searchtext=
More likely waiting for more than anything else. A lot of PDX fans play their games in rotation, and HoI4 and Stellaris are the titles that most recently got shiny new things.
Sergiu64
Arcane
I got kinda frustrated when I spend 3 days trying to get an achievement only to find out they have a bug that requires you to get that achievement with the original ruler. Been waiting for it to get fixed, but they haven't been quick with patches.
LizardWizard
Prophet
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Zariusz
Liturgist
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