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Cyberpunk 2077 Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

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Wait until the official soundtrack comes out, that's where things peak. That zoomershit released so far are just a primer.

Hope they bring some bangers.
I can hear it in my head: "Pussy bangers bang dat pussy!" (x20)
 
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But I’d be remiss to ignore all the reasons not to be excited for Cyberpunk 2077.

The world is still reeling under the weight of the covid-19 pandemic. There are more Americans out of work right now than at any point in the country’s history, with no relief in sight. Our health care system is an inherently evil institution that forces people to ration life-saving medications like insulin and choose suicide over suffering with untreated mental illness.

As I’m writing this, it looks very likely that Joe Biden will be our next president. But it’s clear that the worst people aren’t going away just because a new old white man is sitting behind the Resolute desk—well, at least not this old white man. Our government is fundamentally broken in a way that necessitates radical change rather than incremental electorialism.

The harsh truth is that, for the reasons listed above and more, a lot of people simply won’t be able to buy Cyberpunk 2077, regardless of supply. Or if they can, concerns over increasing austerity in the United States and the growing threat of widespread political violence supersede any enthusiasm about being able to give your female V a robo cock or the ability to drive around in deserts that almost put Mad Max the game(2015) to shame. That’s not to say you can’t be excited for those things—I certainly am, on some level—but there’s an irrefutable level of privilege attached to the ability to simply tune out the world as it burns around you.
 

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The world is still reeling under the weight of the covid-19 pandemic. There are more Americans out of work right now than at any point in the country’s history, with no relief in sight. Our health care system is an inherently evil institution that forces people to ration life-saving medications like insulin and choose suicide over suffering with untreated mental illness.

As I’m writing this, it looks very likely that Joe Biden will be our next president. But it’s clear that the worst people aren’t going away just because a new old white man is sitting behind the Resolute desk—well, at least not this old white man. Our government is fundamentally broken in a way that necessitates radical change rather than incremental electorialism.

The harsh truth is that, for the reasons listed above and more, a lot of people simply won’t be able to buy Cyberpunk 2077, regardless of supply. Or if they can, concerns over increasing austerity in the United States and the growing threat of widespread political violence supersede any enthusiasm about being able to give your female V a robo cock or the ability to drive around in deserts that almost put Mad Max the game(2015) to shame. That’s not to say you can’t be excited for those things—I certainly am, on some level—but there’s an irrefutable level of privilege attached to the ability to simply tune out the world as it burns around you.
This is the worst PS5 review ever written so far. Congrats, kotaku, you're winner.
 
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Ohh is that where it comes from
I hope you're not surprised. By 2022 we'll have reviews for the latest Ubisoft 'fill in the encyclopedia's missing letters' sims saying it's another 10/10(except its buggy and fillery but its still a 10) game for two whole sentences before switching into a howling condemnation of the American public for allowing the reds to flip a bunch of blue seats. (this isnt a prediction based on anything except the fact that the americans tend to have upsets in the mid-terms)

Edit: Hasn't gaming also generally been one of the more expensive hobbies anyway?
 
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The world is still reeling under the weight of the covid-19 pandemic. There are more Americans out of work right now than at any point in the country’s history, with no relief in sight. Our health care system is an inherently evil institution that forces people to ration life-saving medications like insulin and choose suicide over suffering with untreated mental illness.

As I’m writing this, it looks very likely that Joe Biden will be our next president. But it’s clear that the worst people aren’t going away just because a new old white man is sitting behind the Resolute desk—well, at least not this old white man. Our government is fundamentally broken in a way that necessitates radical change rather than incremental electorialism.

The harsh truth is that, for the reasons listed above and more, a lot of people simply won’t be able to buy Cyberpunk 2077, regardless of supply. Or if they can, concerns over increasing austerity in the United States and the growing threat of widespread political violence supersede any enthusiasm about being able to give your female V a robo cock or the ability to drive around in deserts that almost put Mad Max the game(2015) to shame. That’s not to say you can’t be excited for those things—I certainly am, on some level—but there’s an irrefutable level of privilege attached to the ability to simply tune out the world as it burns around you.
This is the worst PS5 review ever written so far. Congrats, kotaku, you're winner.
So many things are causing them butthurt that it all turns into one homogeneous mixture in their empty heads.

Biden won, but the Trump voter base has not "repented" or vanished in thin air as they imagined it would. CP77 is not only not released on schedule, which implies moar overtime for the devs, but having to review it closer to December 10 additionally messes up journos' plans :lol: (I'm just assuming they haven't got their review copies yet)

Why is the world so unjust! :lol:
 

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Edit: Hasn't gaming also generally been one of the more expensive hobbies anyway?

Not inherently compared to other entertainment mediums in terms of money vs time. Think how much going to the cinema would cost you for about two hours you'd spend there + overpriced food and drinks compared to a $60 game. Waters muddy somewhat when you add generation leaps as you have to factor in new hardware cost, ever growing number subscriptions and services, not to mention now increasing base game prices, etc. If you want expensive hobbies get into miniatures.
 
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It's the tactic Diablo clones and looter shooters do to trick you into thinking stats matter when they don't. Have gear to incrementally increase stats through gear. And make enemies more and more spongy. With no regard to encounter design, gun mechanics, or brevity. Then add a long-winded skill tree that does much the same thing.

"Hmm, do I take the skill that gives me +2 to electrical damage or the skill that increases my soak to 0.03%. These are really tough decisions."

Diablo 2 pioneered this lazy approach to character building. And Borderlands made it worse before Warframe and Destiny came in for the kill. There are whole generations of people who think RPGs are just "those really long games with all the numbers and skill trees." Some of those people are developers who probably worked on Cyberpunk.

I'm doing Skype interviews with a lot these types for that REDACTED I'm working on and it beggars belief how few of them know anything about RPGs. Let alone other games. All hope is lost if you expect them to remember games from 10 years ago onwards.

I know this was like 2 weeks ago, but I can't keep up with the thread all the time, and my curiosity won't allow me to let it go.

A disregard of encounter design is one thing, but if these are "bad" upgrade systems, can you (or hell, anyone) point me at a good one?
 

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Everyone complaining about delays should follow my big brain strat: my PC is too shit to run it anyway, therfor I'll only get it when I upgrade next summer where it'll be nicely cheap, patched and moded.
basically get a shit PC.
 

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A disregard of encounter design is one thing, but if these are "bad" upgrade systems, can you (or hell, anyone) point me at a good one?
Also, saying this expecting the carpet bombing with shit (literal and with buttons) on my personality and lineage but I really liked how progression works in VtM:Bloodlines. Troika did well mimicking the original PnP and marrying it with real time action. You only get xp for doing quests and xp is literally spent on being better at existing skills, only the magic shit gives you supercool abilities. And the books, items and dialogs that happen to raise certain skill levels only do this within certain range and require some level of skills to understand that material to lvl up further. Balanced in a decent way I say.

Also, AoD has great somewhat similar progression. Coolest things are separating combat xp & liberal arts and accounting for floating point numbers, i.e you can accumulate additional experience point 0.1 by 0.1. To be honest, AoD's exp spending is reminiscent to CP 2020 one.
 
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Mebrilia the Viera Queen

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So night city ware is going to return! Then you can see keanu reeves himself and nothing meaningful about the game are you excited!?... Seriously what the heck is going on with cdpr they reached a new level of being retard.
 

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