From Software Dark Souls 3

[DJOGamer PT]

I fault BB for being the horrid casul artfag decline that it was.

No, it's not. Don't forget that BB as a more fast paced combat, with bosses faster than Artorias and that can kil you in 3 hits. So a quick healing item was needed or else no one would finish the damn game.

IMHO I also consider that BB is the best souls-like game that From was made. Hope DS3 is better.

 

[Ivan]

Furthermore, in BB it's much easier to get combod to death. In essence you are far far squishier in BB than in any Souls game.

 

[vortex]

How big is game world compared to DS, DS2 and Bloodborne?

 

[Raghar]

It doesn't look like anyone here mentioned it yet but if you have an Xbox One you can play the full English version of DS3 now through a bit of a glitch. From what I've read you use a Japanese Xbox Live account to buy it but not install it, switch back to an English account then install it. You probably want to look up a proper guide first though.

Read the thread first, you are day late.

 

[toro]

Why don't the Bloodborne lovers just fuck off to another thread? The space is infinite after all and we don't want to hear your stupid ramblings.

Fact 1: DS3 combat is BB-lite not because BB combat is better but because FromSW is using the same engine as BB.

Fact 2: BB pvp sucks beyond belief. DS2 pvp is good. Instant Estus is not the main reason why BB pvp sucks but it's an important factor.

 

[toro]

anyway, slow estus is infinitely superior as it forces you to make careful tactical considerations regarding timing and positioning relative to the current and posssible immediate future of your opponent(s) instead of just "i'm now 3m away, chug chug chug". fast estus is definitely

I disagree on that. I have been replaying Dark Souls 1 and 2 + DLC's to prepare for the third installement. And the way estus is in 1 is much better IMO.

There are some bosses in 2 that just really are a pain to beat due to that super-duper slow animation. For example the Old Drangonslayer, had problems to deal with him just because of that. Almost everytime I died was when I was healing. Even tough I knew very well is entire moveset, and healed in the right time and always behind some cover. I still died during the estus animation because when I was just about to put down the estus he impaled (or sometimes because of shitty DS2 colision detection is spear went trough the walls). The Fume Knight is another good and even more painfull exemple of that shit. It the biggest reason I might have died 50 times to kill the prick.

And since Dark Souls 3 will have alot of those super fast rape bosses, the estus is much better like in 1 or there would ton of buthurt with bosses (and their fights would probably be unfair).

So, basically you suck at this game but we should take your opinion for granted. Fuck off.

 

[Gerrard]

I like how the quality of the animations and the feel of inertia is immediately ruined by instantly canceling it into run where the character moves the sword like it was made out of paper.

 

[toro]

 

[toro]

 

[Murk]

wait so IS estus over time or instant?

Instant. And the chug animation is p fast too (with the 2nd sip being faster than first sip as the flask is already in your mouth -- like before).

 

[Jezal_k23]

Along with fast travel from the start and insta estus, are we gonna have that faggotry of monsters disappearing over time again? That was one of the more obnoxious aspects of DS2 for me.

Also I agree that slow estus was great and just added another tactical dimension to the game. You definitely had to be careful and find the right time to heal during some bosses, usually during some of their slower animations, and you had to wait for them to do them. I think that only strenghtened the gameplay. I don't see why Old Dragonslayer would even be troublesome in this regard since he had a bunch of slow animations and you can predict when he's gonna thrust the spear at you.

 

[sullynathan]

Instant estus is beyond retarded in any online match -- especially since all phantoms can also estus (albeit at reduced values).

I can't tell if estus in 3 is faster than 1, but it _seems_ to be, in which case I fault BB for being the horrid casul artfag decline that it was.

Summoning for bosses adds another dimension that makes shit way easier -- in that one guy can play defensive and distract the boss while the other chugs. Few bosses have a counter to this -- like the Fume Knight -- which make them genuinely fun in a different way when summoning on them.

I hope that lloyd talismans work better at least, cuz otherwise I'm not going to have fun tracking down 1-4 people and waiting for them to chug themselves into retirement

They fucked the fume knight by putting two weak summons. They really put a brawler against fume knight.

 

[StaticSpine]

Is Season Pass available separately on PS4?

 

[toro]

Instant estus is beyond retarded in any online match -- especially since all phantoms can also estus (albeit at reduced values).

I can't tell if estus in 3 is faster than 1, but it _seems_ to be, in which case I fault BB for being the horrid casul artfag decline that it was.

Summoning for bosses adds another dimension that makes shit way easier -- in that one guy can play defensive and distract the boss while the other chugs. Few bosses have a counter to this -- like the Fume Knight -- which make them genuinely fun in a different way when summoning on them.

I hope that lloyd talismans work better at least, cuz otherwise I'm not going to have fun tracking down 1-4 people and waiting for them to chug themselves into retirement

They fucked the fume knight by putting two weak summons. They really put a brawler against fume knight.

It was a trap. By design.

 

[sullynathan]

meh, this game will be better than DS2 base game.

 

[Jaedar]

meh, this game will be better than DS2 base game.

Ah, to be a newfag once again, and forget that the decline is as inevitable as it is horrible.

 

[Murk]

My guess is that Dark Souls 3 will in fact be a Souls game and therefor people who like Souls games will also like Dark Souls 3.

Not really spoiler but eh

Spoiler

Since DS 3 clearly takes place between 1 and 2, and everything is kinda shit and broken/corrupt/ruined, it was suggested that it takes place as the alternate decision to the ending of DS1. That is, DS 2 is what happens if you link the fire and DS 3 is what happens if you go Dark Lord. So in that sense, it'd be like an alternate reality but more closely after DS 1 than the many ages that passed until DS 2. Neat idea if so, but I'll have to donate to Vaati's patreon 69 times so he can tell me what to think in his quivering voice instead.

 

[Bastion]

Is Season Pass available separately on PS4?

Nope, at least not yet.

 

[sullynathan]

meh, this game will be better than DS2 base game.

Ah, to be a newfag once again, and forget that the decline is as inevitable as it is horrible.

Truthfully, I don't see how DS3 will somehow be overall worse than base DS1 & DS2. I am one of those who believe DS1s multiplayer was one of its weakest aspects with how utterly broken it is. I'm disappointing to see that some of that has carried over here(ganking, easy backstab, and lag) but it does look like the net code is improved and it looks like the hit detection is not as bad as DS1.
From the gameplay I've been watching, it also looks to have the best boss fights in the base game and doesn't have any bed of chaos bullshit.
Having good boss fights already puts it above base DS2, plus, I don't see the level design being worse than base DS2 after they did BB and DS2 DLC.
Now, I don't care about the complaint that Estus is instant, seems more like a multiplayer problem if anything. It can be balanced. I just don't want backstab faggotry with bad net code.

At the end of the day, the DLC will be the best or one of the best parts of the game anyway.

 

[Hobo Elf]

My guess is that Dark Souls 3 will in fact be a Souls game and therefor people who like Souls games will also like Dark Souls 3.

Not really spoiler but eh

Spoiler

Since DS 3 clearly takes place between 1 and 2, and everything is kinda shit and broken/corrupt/ruined, it was suggested that it takes place as the alternate decision to the ending of DS1. That is, DS 2 is what happens if you link the fire and DS 3 is what happens if you go Dark Lord. So in that sense, it'd be like an alternate reality but more closely after DS 1 than the many ages that passed until DS 2. Neat idea if so, but I'll have to donate to Vaati's patreon 69 times so he can tell me what to think in his quivering voice instead.

Spoiler

How do you figure that DS3 takes place between DS1 and 2 when the ending of DS3 indicates that this is it, this is the end of the world. You can rekindle the flame one last time but it'll only be a pittance before it runs out for good. This is literally the end for Dark Souls.

 

[AngryEddy]

doesn't have any bed of chaos bullshit.

Spoiler alert, there is.

Spoiler

 

[toro]

https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3...ers_complete_miyazaki_interview_with_famitsu/

When the difference in Soul level between players is great, the strength of the players will be adjusted.

Level scaling!?

 

[sullynathan]

doesn't have any bed of chaos bullshit.

Spoiler alert, there is.

Spoiler

that looks more like an asylum demon style boss or taurus demon cheesing.

 

[AngryEddy]

that looks more like an asylum demon style boss or taurus demon cheesing.

Except for it's not. Like Bed of Chaos or the Dragon God, you can only 1 shot the boss by navigating the map. Goddamn, you souls fags wont admit to fucking anything.

 

[Murk]

Spoiler

How do you figure that DS3 takes place between DS1 and 2 when the ending of DS3 indicates that this is it, this is the end of the world. You can rekindle the flame one last time but it'll only be a pittance before it runs out for good. This is literally the end for Dark Souls.

Spoiler

Didn't know about the end -- I was guessing it's between because it's very close after DS 1 (giant blacksmith is a corpse, anor londo is still standing (ruined, but standing), Andre is Andre... and since DS 2 takes place in the land that USED to be Lordran I just assumed it was between them. Still, if the idea is that it's based on an alternate reality of what DS 1 chosen undead did, then it kinda holds. From has never been shy about throwing that "time is convoluted and many worlds collide" shit at the world/setting.

This kinda depends on some item descriptions tho -- since many ds 2 armor/weapons are in game, it could potentially be post ds2? I dunno, hard to make sense with Japanese text.