Dawn of War 2: Retribution Beta

[Multi-headed Cow]

Played one game on MP so far and iit was... okay... for an RTS. Gonna play more though. I've played with fucking laggers so my enjoyment was limited.

Protip, play team games. Much more fun than 1 vs 1.

 

[Twinkle]

In case someone's interested you can grab beta key without any hassle at

http://community.dawnofwar2.com/beta

 

[Konjad]

Played Tyranids, they were okay.
Played Space Marines, they sucked.
Played Eldars and they were super awesome Damn, sending a small group of vehicle units ahead, supported by even smaller group of infrantry units and an artillery unit is instant-win

 

[Reject_666_6]

I challenge you to a 1v1, Konjad.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

So the next phase of the BETA has started and MAN there's a lot of Noobs playing right now.

Playing vs People that do not know how to dodge stick bombers are a GREAT source of entertainment for me.

 

[Konjad]

I challenge you to a 1v1, Konjad.

Sure, we can play. I added you on Steam.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Was playing a 3 v 3 with two bros earlier. We were winning 500 tickets to 50. Enemy team turned it around and won. I want to die.

Moral of the story is my IG ass was useless against IG and SM (Techmarine) building about 5 turrets just outside the one exit to my base, so most of the match involved me probing their defenses while tickets counted down and it looked like we were gonna win. Then SURPRISE SURPRISE they start taking over VPs since I'm walled off and mostly helpless, and we never recovered. At one point an enemy landraider was fighting a friendly landraider, a leman russ with the electroballs upgrade, and a baneblade. The friendly landraider retreated, and the russ and baneblade both got killed.

 

[Destroid]

Have they increased the unit cap or something to fit such powerful units in?

 

[Reject_666_6]

Have they increased the unit cap or something to fit such powerful units in?

No, the unit cap is the same. They say it's to make you choose between large amounts of squads or a few squads and some super-units. The problem is that there's no choice involved, a few squads + super-unit > many squads.

 

[anus_pounder]

:O Imperial Guard? In my DoW2? YES!!

 

[CrimsonAngel]

Was playing a 3 v 3 with two bros earlier. We were winning 500 tickets to 50. Enemy team turned it around and won. I want to die.

Moral of the story is my IG ass was useless against IG and SM (Techmarine) building about 5 turrets just outside the one exit to my base, so most of the match involved me probing their defenses while tickets counted down and it looked like we were gonna win. Then SURPRISE SURPRISE they start taking over VPs since I'm walled off and mostly helpless, and we never recovered. At one point an enemy landraider was fighting a friendly landraider, a leman russ with the electroballs upgrade, and a baneblade. The friendly landraider retreated, and the russ and baneblade both got killed.

Why did you not get a Manticore and blow the fuck out of there defences and THEN drive some units though what ever gap you make in there line.

Now i am more of a Ork player and we do have some issues fighting suppression/turrets in tier 1 also, but after i get to tier 2 all that goes away.

A deff Dread, Tank busters, Wierdboy and so on will bring them down.

With IG in tier 2 you have Manticore, Chimera and Upgraded Sentinel and they will bring down a few turrets easy.

Also in tier 1 in you use the inquisitor Hero you can get the first armour upgrade and make a squad infiltrate.
Do that to your standard Guard squad with flamers and then they can walk extremely close to a defence line and most likely take down a Turret with no issues and then you run away reinforce and repeat.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I was under the impression manticores did fuck all damage against turrets. When I was fucking around with IG in comp stomp I used one on the turrets defending a base, and the manicore didn't do much. I guess they might be more effective against regular turrets.

 

[Mangoose]

Actually you've got two teammates that should've helped you take out those turrets.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

I was under the impression manticores did fuck all damage against turrets. When I was fucking around with IG in comp stomp I used one on the turrets defending a base, and the manicore didn't do much. I guess they might be more effective against regular turrets.

Yeah base turrets are stronger then the ones you make in the field and the manticore and EVERY other artillery unit has reduced damage vs the base turrets.

There are 2 different types of turrets that can be built.

The ones IG make and the ones every one else makes.

The IG ones are weaker in both HP and in the fact that they do not Suppress, but on the ohter hand they are cheap and they only cost 150 req.

The turrets made by Plague Marine, Ork Mek and Tech Marine are stronger over all. They cost 200 Req and 30 power and they suppress.

In terms of pure DPS they are about the same and the close you are the harder they hit.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Actually you've got two teammates that should've helped you take out those turrets.

I actually said HEY GUYS I'M GETTING SEALED OFF IN MY BASE and they told me that was cool and to keep doing what I was doing since I was "keeping the other players busy". That worked when we got them down to 50 tickets, and then bit us in the ass when they started pushing the VPs and they had a big portion of the map locked up tight.

And I'll have to keep that in mind CrimsonAngel. Manicore might be more useful if it could take out turrets for me. I think next time I play I'll most likely try that horrible IG turret rush bullshit though. I won't have a friendly techmarine backing me up with suppression turrets, but I might be able to squeeze a HWT in there to deny a good portion of map early on.

 

[CrimsonAngel]

Well if you are going to do that then her are a few pointers for you and ideas

Now 1 or 2 Turrets can be usefull if built in the right positions, but if you go over board YOU will lack the pure capping power and mobility of an extra squad.

Get a bunker for you HWT, but ONLY if you can afford trap for it.

When it comes to Heroes i would go for the Inquisitor she has a ton of Crowd Control ability that will really work great in tandem with turrets.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Inquisitor eh? Haven't really tried her yet. I liked the commissar's god damn ridiculous artillery ability (Which is T3 unfortunately) and his execute an enemy soldier (Especially against SM) ability. Lord general seems vaguely nice with grenade launchers, and seems to have the best command abilities.

Played another game this evening and tried doing turrets. Didn't work out well, was trying to hold an area with one turret, one guardsmen squad, and lord general against something like 3 guardsmen squads, general, and sentinel. Eventually managed to lock up the middle VP and thought we were still in the game until the enemy player called in creeping artillery and decimated our defenses, then they got a wraithlord and oh god I hate everything why am I so terrible at everything I hate life.

 

[Reject_666_6]

You should really play with us, we're nowhere near the top of the proverbial ladder.

 

[Topher]

I've always comp stomped in lan games but I'll give online a go. Feel free to add me, Topherunhinged.

 

[desocupado]

Join the Hamachi group.

Group: CodexDoW
pass: kingcomrade

 

[Topher]

Meh, I ended up playing a few games with a friend and we both remembered why we hated the skirmish in DoW 2 so much. Maybe if some of you guys end up playing over steam I'll give it another go but until then I'm going to have to pass. I really want to like the skirmish but I just don't. At least I'll have campaign when the full game comes out.

 

[Reject_666_6]

Meh, I ended up playing a few games with a friend and we both remembered why we hated the skirmish in DoW 2 so much. Maybe if some of you guys end up playing over steam I'll give it another go but until then I'm going to have to pass. I really want to like the skirmish but I just don't. At least I'll have campaign when the full game comes out.

We are playing over steam. Hamachi's just for chatting.

 

[Topher]

Then I might just play a game or two tomorrow.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Ogryn are nuts. Took out something like 3-4 chaos dreads, a manticore, and 2 chaos preds with one squad of ogryn, with a bone ead, and lord general with melta using his shout power*. The enemy players weren't terribly good though. Weren't careful enough with their vehicles.

*Two squads of guardsmen with sergeant, commissar, and plasma rifles were occasionally around too. Also occasionally some friendly chaos. And for a brief while a HWT with sergeant and autocannon. BUT IT WAS MAINLY THE OGRYN I SWEAR

 

[Konjad]

Meh, I ended up playing a few games with a friend and we both remembered why we hated the skirmish in DoW 2 so much. Maybe if some of you guys end up playing over steam I'll give it another go but until then I'm going to have to pass. I really want to like the skirmish but I just don't. At least I'll have campaign when the full game comes out.

We are playing over steam. Hamachi's just for chatting.

why not use rpgcodex's chat room on the Steam then?

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/59692 ... 5C4F3F5FA/

I'll just put this here.

 

[Undead Phoenix]

Already learnt to hate Sentinels with a passion

Still won every game after I stopped disconnecting. Taking down a Baneblade with just an Autarch made me feel real


So far Imperial Guard seem a good addition to the roster - they offer something completely different to what every existing race does.

 

[Topher]

I played a few more lan games today and they really need to make unit cap higher. I'd be happy if they just gave me the option to make it higher myself in the lobby.