Warhammer Dawn of War 3 - DAMNATIO MEMORIAE

[markec]

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Still more than original Dark Souls 2

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Still more than original Dark Souls 2

Why the fock don't you upgrade to SotFS already?

Because money. Still waiting for a big sell. I do get activity in the original, just not as much as Dark Souls 1. Maybe my Soul Memory isn't high enough or something.

 

[Grif]

Why is Valve giving me a 50% discount to an already dead game? Fuck off.

 

[thesheeep]

And the "funniest" thing is that they will probably blame it on those "aggressive campaigns" and "irrational hatred" against their game, and will likely stay completely oblivious to the actual reasons.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

BTW, What do you guys think about DoW 2 - worth getting? Loved the first one, but when I saw the direction they took with the sequel I passed.

Are the campaign missions any fun at all? How's the MP?

 

[lightbane]

Vanilla campaign is crap, but the expansions are worth getting. That's the general consensus.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Vanilla campaign is crap, but the expansion is worth getting. That's the general consensus.

Fixed.

For singleplayer, Chaos Rising is pretty cool, but it's basically a party-based Diablo, so don't expect anything resembling an RTS. Vanilla is horrid and so is Retribution.

For multiplayer, forget it. Normal MP is dead, the only activity is in the "Elite Mod", which has a bunch of "Community Rebalancings" (tm) that are hit and miss to say the least + most of the people playing it are lowlives with 1000+ hours played who will just faceroll you all the time.
Also DoW2 MP is in the long run just not very fun at all, because it's a frustrating clusterfuck of boardwipe awesome buttons that you have roughly a second to react to (and not even that is always true). If you fail to react, your whole army goes bye bye.

 

[TalesfromtheCrypt]

I'll pass then, thanks for the info guys!

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Chaos rising was cool. It had a nice little corruption mechanic that unlocked different skill sets, equipment and also endings.
Retribution, its successor had none of that, and was just the same campaign copy pasted across all factions with just some minor cosmetic changes.
You'd think they wouldn't have Eldar vs Eldar. You'd be wrong.

 

[Jaedar]

Vanilla campaign is crap, but the expansion is worth getting. That's the general consensus.

Fixed.

For singleplayer, Chaos Rising is pretty cool, but it's basically a party-based Diablo, so don't expect anything resembling an RTS. Vanilla is horrid and so is Retribution.

For multiplayer, forget it. Normal MP is dead, the only activity is in the "Elite Mod", which has a bunch of "Community Rebalancings" (tm) that are hit and miss to say the least + most of the people playing it are lowlives with 1000+ hours played who will just faceroll you all the time.
Also DoW2 MP is in the long run just not very fun at all, because it's a frustrating clusterfuck of boardwipe awesome buttons that you have roughly a second to react to (and not even that is always true). If you fail to react, your whole army goes bye bye.

Nigga do I have to post another image of how many hours you have played mp in this game?

You are right about singleplayer though, chaos rising is the only good one.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Nigga do I have to post another image of how many hours you have played mp in this game?

Also DoW2 MP is in the long run just not very fun at all,

Also, must I list all the house rules that we agreed to follow when we played?

 

[Jaedar]

Nigga do I have to post another image of how many hours you have played mp in this game?

Also DoW2 MP is in the long run just not very fun at all,

Also, must I list all the house rules that we agreed to follow when we played?

Ah, the defence by obscurity approach! DoW2 MP was still fun for dozens of hours, hard to complain about that.

And yeah, there were a couple house rules A lot of randoms seemed to follow them too though.

 

[Alienman]

I recommend playing the DoW2 campaigns in co-op. Much more enjoyable than having to juggle all the soldiers and their skills yourself.

 

[Dayyālu]

DoW2's SP campaign is mediocre by design (the maps are okaysh, but the design itself is weird). I mean,

- Equipment and level up shenanigans are fun. You can specialize units and do unconventional stuff. It's the best thing.

- Missions are bothersome. Why? Boss fights. I still remember how they were so proud of "boss fights" in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING MISSION. It became such a bore and made the game barely playable on the higher difficulty levels (someone here finished everything on Primarch, I still ask myself how the fuck I managed to endure the horror). Not that it matters much because to play higher difficulties you have to use Cyrus in a specific way (stealth bomb guy), it's the only optimal way.

- The overall campaign system is full of half-baked ideas (assets are mostly useless) and flat-out broken systems (Tyranid infestation does nothing, ya know?).

CR fixed many of the glaring mistakes (streamlined campaign, dumped 80% of the boss fights, kept level up and equipment). You got the Worst Librarian out of it, but that's merely personal preference.

Retribution had a very well designed campaign that you had to play with all the six races 'cause budget. I never understood the complaints: no chance in hell they had the budget for six campaigns , and between the choice of a single mission par race and many well-made missions for every race I'd always pick the second one. It's not like the mechanics were bad, and the missions themselves are neatly designed (compared to baseline DoW2, masterpieces even. INTERLOPERS!).

Sure, you can scream because you are a storyfag, but seriously who cares. Even the banter between the commanders was more fun in Retribution than in baseline DoW2. Balance was crap (Tyranid Warriors with Venom Cannon were something, I swear they broke the final boss in two mins or so), but it's SP so who cares.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Behead those who insult Comrade General Castor and Sargent Merrick!

DoW2 was for me fun fun RPG game with cool characters, witty dialogues and interesting story line and quest; not to mention all the loot Blood Rawenz stolen were gifted; Chaos Rising added some Chaos stuff and neat C&C mechanics linked with Chaos Corruption and Retribution had finally Imperial Guard Campaign and very cleverly designed maps and missions... But kinda understand that those who expected RTS not RPG could be dis-pointed.

/

 

[thesheeep]

Commissar Draco don't you mean DoW 2?

 

[Major_Blackhart]

Behead those who insult Kaptin Bluddflagg, Mista Nailbrain, Spookums, and Brikkfist.

Greatest band of hero's the galaxy has ever seen.

Status reporta Mista Nailbrain.
The status reportaz busted Kaptin!

Ow, day urts me feelins Kapin. I neva get duffed by no pansies.

Toofy grins all round you lot, Brikkfist is 'ere.

I ain't hidin I'm lava again, not after last time.

That was a proppa smack!
Gonna be the second hardest of the day if you lot don't get movin!

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

The ork pirate captain and his quest of getting that inquisitor's hat was the only real good thing about the campaign. The rest is mediocre.

 

[Dayyālu]

The ork pirate captain and his quest of getting that inquisitor's hat was the only real good thing about the campaign. The rest is mediocre.

It' fairly noticeable how "plotwise" (as long as we can apply the term "plot" to a RTS, the thing is mostly dubbing and some witty writing) the only factions with good writing in Retribution were the Imperial Guard, the Orks and arguably the Murines. Chaos had little interesting (pity, as Eliphas was fairly entertaining in DoW: DC). Eldar were crap and Nids were...hmmm, Nids.

Mechanically, Retribution is better than DoW2 and even a tad better than CR. Missions are varied and often even borderline interesting (infiltration, escape, frontal assault). If we compare the final boss with DoW2 and CR, you find something simple (it has a good deal of telegraphed attacks and a costant stream of Khornate demons) that needs a minimum of tactical skill to be fought well at higher difficulty levels (hilariously enough, Orks are the worst faction to deal with Kyras). CR final boss was HP BLOAT INCARNATE but little else (Nurgle demon, eh) while I forgot if DoW2's Tyrant had anything. Ahh, yes, they gave you Angelos and an invincibility skill.

Design!

 

[LESS T_T]

If anyone still caress: http://steamcommunity.com/games/dawnofwar/announcements/detail/1450577333367060709

New

• Modding tools added
  
• Steam Workshop support added for new mod tools

Improved

• Autosave added to campaign
  
• Balance update (multiplayer only, balance changes do not apply to the campaign)

Was that 50% off coupon spree worked? Probably, but not that much, from the looks of SteamSpy numbers:

On August 18th: 293,954
On September 1st: 326,702

 

[Don Peste]

Alternative?

 

[Infinitron]

Free weekend.

 

[Space Satan]

 

[Raghar]

Is Denuvo removed? If not, I'd rather play ELEX.