In Progress DECLINE 22: Primitive Proliferation

[sqeecoo]

True, the no lifeless regen hit a lot of tactics pretty hard (even just taking N9 for decent sacreds with a view to summon golems later). And the sex fetish doesn't even have trample or fear, just an attack with his "club".

 

[KoolNoodles]

True, the no lifeless regen hit a lot of tactics pretty hard (even just taking N9 for decent sacreds with a view to summon golems later). And the sex fetish doesn't even have trample or fear, just an attack with his "club".

The lack of weapon/trample is no problem though, because it has innate spell caster. So with a high E bless(which you would go for anyways), it can simultaneously cast many Flying Shards and whack a fool. It's quite effective early. At range it sucks, but in tight it's like a grenade going off in the face every turn. Now, this does rack up fatigue even with the 0 Encumbrance, so I've been looking at single or double reinvigoration(though all this is IN dominion only, which makes strategy for early expansion a little extra tricky).

I want the giant fetish to work! Gah!

Edit: Save files confirm the descent into madness. It's not working

 

[Isiloon]

In my defence Matalarata - referring to the wallpaper...

I just went and got the list from Dec21 ..

I can edit and reupload LOL

 

[Matalarata]

Don't worry mate. People here know I shouldn't be taken too seriously..! It was just a funny way to say "Good luck! May the better butthurt one win!".

Unfortunately, time constraints are real, can't afford to play two games at once atm!

 

[coldcrow]

Fomoria is also in this panopticum.

 

[Malakal]

Theodoros, oh god. Why does some asshole always have to pick a popkill nation! I mean Lemuria basically ruined the game in D21.

Btw where are Malakal and Johannes?

For Machaka, what's more thematic than the colossal sex fetish? From what I understand it's actually a pretty good chassis too.

Kinda got bored of Dominions honestly. Taking a break.

 

[Infinitum]

All right then, going for RUS. Let's see if I can survive past year 2 this time.

 

[Infinitum]

Actually nm. I'll take Marverni instead, cannot be arsed to attempt to figure out bespoke strategies this time around.

 

[Dayyālu]

Actually nm. I'll take Marverni instead, cannot be arsed to attempt to figure out bespoke strategies this time around.

Dayyalu's own head, Nation pickup Edition

"What the fuck I am getting"
"Caelum looks strong. No humans, boring. No Atlanteans, you played them tons. Elves, no, good only for Mongolian rape comics."
"Ohh, I dig the Hinnom sprites. I'll pick them."

Strategies are an afterthought.

 

[sqeecoo]

What would Hinnom do in dom5? Like some minor thug blesses and scales? Probably what I'd choose.

With Marverni you have a decent chance of being eliminated by the end of year two :p but they were my second choice actually, I think they are pretty cool.

 

[Infinitum]

Well, their infantry getting what amounts to a free bless hopefully bumps them from "pretty cost-effective" to "doesn't melt in the face of sacred rushes". We'll see.

 

[Lizzurd]

I am sorry, but I am out. Real life, meh.

 

[Isiloon]

I think I am going to go awake Pretender for once, thoughts wrt Machaka? So many choices, has to be thematic obviously.

I played in a game earlier, in Dom4 - with a guy who played a very strong (strong as in top 3) Machaka and almost won the game.

If not for me making a 4 way alliance against him and breaking a NAP twice - he could have won... but instead he raged hard on the z7 forums and got told off by mod lol... ANYWAY...

He played a Myrmeceleon... pretty solid expander at the start of the game.. very cheap and you could probably get awe/reinvig or protection on your sacreds.

for example

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Would be interesting if we all showed what pretenders we were going... I tried this guy in a test.. really strong... the freespawn barbarians are pretty handy :')

So far we have


muty - xibalba (flying goblinoid empire)
dayyalu - hinnom (ancient jews)
grimwolf - helheim (primitive elves)
koolnoodles - machaka (poster negroes)
coldcrow - fomoria (tru cavemen)
infinitum - marverni (vanilla faces)
isiloon - yomi (hairy demons)

 

[Trash Player]

I think I am going to go awake Pretender for once, thoughts wrt Machaka? So many choices, has to be thematic obviously.

I played in a game earlier, in Dom4 - with a guy who played a very strong (strong as in top 3) Machaka and almost won the game.

If not for me making a 4 way alliance against him and breaking a NAP twice - he could have won... but instead he raged hard on the z7 forums and got told off by mod lol... ANYWAY...

He played a Myrmeceleon... pretty solid expander at the start of the game.. very cheap and you could probably get awe/reinvig or protection on your sacreds.

for example

Spoiler

Spoiler

Would be interesting if we all showed what pretenders we were going... I tried this guy in a test.. really strong... the freespawn barbarians are pretty handy :')

So far we have


muty - xibalba (flying goblinoid empire)
dayyalu - hinnom (ancient jews)
grimwolf - helheim (primitive elves)
koolnoodles - machaka (poster negroes)
coldcrow - fomoria (tru cavemen)
infinitum - marverni (vanilla faces)
isiloon - yomi (hairy demons)

I think rhino warriors are good enough to warrant more than Sloth3: formation fighter, Ulmish physical stats, decent eq barring shield. Between the royalty and bouda you get decent buffs fast enough. Don't forget the almighty demilich too if going for a buff chassis. Mum with lion pelt and recup if you really want an awake titan.

 

[sqeecoo]

muty - xibalba (flying goblinoid empire)
dayyalu - hinnom (ancient jews)
grimwolf - helheim (primitive elves)
koolnoodles - machaka (poster negroes)
coldcrow - fomoria (tru cavemen)
infinitum - marverni (vanilla faces)
isiloon - yomi (hairy demons)

Now see Dayyalu that a clear nation list! Except it's missing my Mictlan (inventors of potato)

 

[mondblut]

muty - xibalba (flying goblinoid empire)
dayyalu - hinnom (ancient jews)
grimwolf - helheim (primitive elves)
koolnoodles - machaka (poster negroes)
coldcrow - fomoria (tru cavemen)
infinitum - marverni (vanilla faces)
isiloon - yomi (hairy demons)

Now see Dayyalu that a clear nation list! Except it's missing my Mictlan (inventors of potato)

Or my Lanka (shitting on your street)

 

[KoolNoodles]

Rhino clan warriors are pretty decent spear guys, yeah, and Boudas are amazing once the research gets going. They can buff/skellyspam/toss evocations/forge anything cheap all in one package. Very adaptable.

Problem is, it's hard to kill stuff with those Rhinos. Elephants are better expanders(but obviously very expensive if you make a bad move) anyway, but all that stuff will get obliterated by bless until research is up. Pygmy flaming arrows, which is easy enough to reach, seems really underwhelming now even with increased range. The hits only start really falling once the battle lines are bunched up, then you need flame ward....

Myrmeceleon was what I went with in a Dom4 game, and yeah with Awe he's pretty awesome. Everything IN-Dominion though, have to remember.

 

[Dayyālu]

I'll set up the page tomorrow. We're going to use the map by Isiloon, fuck the province limits.

That said, has anyone ever stopped thinking how fucking creepy and wrong Hinnom is?

I mean, look at the Avvites. They are a beautiful and wise race, with "positive" magic (elemental and nature). And they get slowly genocided and their race destroyed and substituted by an unholy horror of cannibalistic abominations born from divine might corrupted and bent in inhuman forms (the sons of the Watchers). In the second era, the Avvites gets almost genocided, and in the end, while the other giants are also few in numbers, even their memory is lost.

Seriously, think what the heck would happen if your species was enslaved and substituted by half-divine horrors that ate people, raped at will and thrived on blood sacrifice. Starspawns are evil, but at least they are pragmatic. Hinnom is endless horror.

 

[sqeecoo]

Jesus christ that map is huge! And there's like 8 of us? And half the map is water? Are you trying to force me to switch to R'lyeh or something?

Yeah, Hinnom is definitely the candidate for most evil faction, especially the hilarious combo of the need not eat and eats population traits :D

 

[Grif]

I'm honestly tempted to join, but I don't know how well I can handle 3 games simultaneously. Hmmm. Decisions, decisions.

 

[Isiloon]

I'm honestly tempted to join, but I don't know how well I can handle 3 games simultaneously. Hmmm. Decisions, decisions.

do it..

I'm going to switch to Pangea...

Love the double freespawn turmoil synergy with statue of war + maenads... so much fun... 'the horde'

Who can say no to blood hunting and this thematic blend of units

VS

 

[mondblut]

Change of plans, I'll take Oceania. As long as no one else picks UW

 

[Johannes]

Rhino clan warriors are pretty decent spear guys, yeah, and Boudas are amazing once the research gets going. They can buff/skellyspam/toss evocations/forge anything cheap all in one package. Very adaptable.

Problem is, it's hard to kill stuff with those Rhinos. Elephants are better expanders(but obviously very expensive if you make a bad move) anyway, but all that stuff will get obliterated by bless until research is up. Pygmy flaming arrows, which is easy enough to reach, seems really underwhelming now even with increased range. The hits only start really falling once the battle lines are bunched up, then you need flame ward....

Myrmeceleon was what I went with in a Dom4 game, and yeah with Awe he's pretty awesome. Everything IN-Dominion though, have to remember.

Rhinos are kinda lackluster now, they were better in Dom4 (with the better repel). Bunching up 4 guys a square is not too helpful when they have a hard time dealing damage anyway, yet it makes them more vulnerable to evos. And your battle line is now shorter, which makes the enemy surrounding you rather than vice versa, more likely... Or letting the enemy slip past your battle line to your rear.

With Machaka I'd go with Lion Warriors, either with a Myrm (one of the nice expanders due to being cheap), or with an imprisoned Hyena guy rainbow.

 

[Dayyālu]

Map needs UW balance anyway.

Failed to find good Hinnom build. Reserving Atlantis and caelum.

 

[Grif]

And here I thought I was about to pick the only UW nation.

But what the hell, gimme Rlyeh.