Incline Dominions 4 announced

[Haba]

 

[pakoito]

Uselessu Kikko (no Jutsu)!

 

[Nikolaj]

dom 4 is now a real game

Cool. People who pre-ordered on Desura can use their key to get a copy on Steam.

 

[catfood]

Does the game have an AI this time around?

 

[Haba]

It had been years since I last played, but the AI seems to be a bit improved version of Dom3 AI. It cheats shamelessly on higher difficulties.

 

[Johannes]

The base AI has somewhat better behavior, also there's an extra level of difficulty which makes the AI cheat even more than the highest in Dom3.

But for a better AI this mod should help a lot too:

http://z7.invisionfree.com/Dom3mods/index.php?showtopic=1769

 

[you know what time it is]

huge sale on gamersgate right now, you can grab it for 6 bucks (13 hours left)

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DOM4TA/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascension

 

[KoolNoodles]

huge sale on gamersgate right now, you can grab it for 6 bucks (13 hours left)

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DOM4TA/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascension

12 bucks, but still, probably best deal anyone is gonna get.

 

[Dim]

Bought it.

 

[Exxos]

huge sale on gamersgate right now, you can grab it for 6 bucks (13 hours left)

http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DOM4TA/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascension

12 bucks, but still, probably best deal anyone is gonna get.

Bought it. You can use GG cd-key to activate it on steam and download/use from there. For my PL brethren it's 8.5 euro (~35zł). Still dirt cheap compared to the typical price.

 

[Dim]

Is there a http://dom3-mod-inspector.googlecode.com for the 4th game?

 

[JohnTheRevelator]

http://dom4editor.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/inspector/index.html
Still WIP AFAIK.

 

[Exxos]

Is there a http://dom3-mod-inspector.googlecode.com for the 4th game?

http://dom4editor.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/inspector/index.html Supposedly still WIP but better than nothing.

Edit:Ninja-ed

 

[you know what time it is]

price seems to differ from region to region, try getting russian proxy, its still 6 bucks to me

http://spys.ru/free-proxy-list/RU/

 

[you know what time it is]

Finally bought it and holy shit devs are autistic.. Worst interface since df and to setup a multiplayer game you need a separate pc ? what the fuck. PBEM ? back to 80s then

 

[Haba]

No.

 

[anus_pounder]

So I broke down and got the game, beyond RTFM and just playing it myself are there any LPs and shit like that I can read to get a handle on things?

 

[Mortmal]

Finally bought it and holy shit devs are autistic.. Worst interface since df and to setup a multiplayer game you need a separate pc ? what the fuck. PBEM ? back to 80s then

An autistict interface for autistic geeks liking rpgs and stats , so many stats and strategies ahem.. Get out of my lawn you filthy casuals ! Stay away from this horrible game with 8 bit graphics!
The worst thing that can happen is "streamlining" it .

 

[Nikolaj]

So I broke down and got the game, beyond RTFM and just playing it myself are there any LPs and shit like that I can read to get a handle on things?

Reading the manual really is a good idea, and so is playing through the tutorial. After that, you might want to take a look at the Dom3 wiki. Some rules, and a lot of items/spells/races have changed, but looking at some of the strategies for the different races should give you some idea of the considerations that go into creating a pretender and making a long term plan. Also, always watch the battle replays, they really help in figuring out what works and what doesn't and why. You can press 1-3 during replays to set the feedback level, and I recommend setting it at the highest level in the start, to better understand what's going on.

Other than that, I recommend choosing one or two races and playing around with them against the AI, to get a feeling for them. See if you can come up with a decent plan for those races considering both the early, mid and endgame. Then try an mp game using one of those races. You want to be decently prepared before doing mp, because a game can take a long time, and is a big commitment for everyone involved.

 

[Dim]

WUT? don't rtfm. set ai to normal and make big battles ftw. I recommend playing as Sauron. Everything you need to know is in the tool tips for now. Or the fastest hint to beat the ai; protection and damage are the best stats. Ignore magic for first playthroughs.

 

[Haba]

Well, yeah. Sure.

That'll be all fine and dandy if you're not planning to play multiplayer. Or hard AI opponents.

You have to understand the mechanics if you want to actually win your games.

 

[Chef_Hathaway]

So I broke down and got the game, beyond RTFM and just playing it myself are there any LPs and shit like that I can read to get a handle on things?

What do you need to get a handle on, out of curiosity?

Reading the manual covers most of your bases. After that, it's just a matter of learning what nations and spells do what, then building strats around them.

A good learning nation is something like Abysia in any age. Very fire and blood/death heavy depending on the age with strong mages in those fields. You can focus down a few paths with them, evocation and conjuration, branching out into magic item construction later on. They have no ranged units until the Late Age and all their troops wear very high protection armor, so early expansion is fairly easy.

 

[Nikolaj]

Here's something that kind of resembles a let's play. It's a co-op write-up featuring Tom Chick and the brain surgeon who wrote the Dom4 manual. It probably won't teach anyone too much about how to play Dominions 4, but it's entertaining.

 

[Dim]

Well, yeah. Sure.

That'll be all fine and dandy if you're not planning to play multiplayer. Or hard AI opponents.

You have to understand the mechanics if you want to actually win your games.

Go all scales and never build mages. Most nations can beat the hardest AI with this setup as long as its not in teams.

 

[Nikolaj]

The new manual (4.04) is up. I haven't finished reading it, but my first glance tells me that it has bookmarks, and index and a path booster chart (finally). The grimoire and manual have been consolidated into one document, but the bookmarks should make it fast and easy to find what you're looking for.