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Dota 2 Discussion (~Boston Majors & Road to TI7~)

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The_Mask

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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I helped put crap in Monomyth
Apparently... (I've only seen the first episode as of this post) all of what is happening is a prequel to the characters we know. Which excuses/explains a lot of stuff about Davion and Mirana. But Terrorblade and Invoker make no sense, so far.
 
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wtf guys the anime is actually
not awful
how did they do it?????????????

art is surprisingly pretty good most of the time and show's quite edgy
jojo sense of humor
healthy dose of misogyny
also
terrorblade, the only carry I play, is the villian?

surprisingly based?
wtf is going on

One BIG problem tho:
WHERE THE FUCK IS TEChiES?????????????
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Well... most of the lore was built in the early 00's, it's pretty good. And not a lot of it has been retconned over the years, except those few times when Valve's lawyers had to steer clear of Blizzards' lawyers...

The only clear sign of decline is Luna's ass. Someone should flog themselves about that.
 
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Well... most of the lore was built in the early 00's, it's pretty good. And not a lot of it has been retconned over the years, except those few times when Valve's lawyers had to steer clear of Blizzards' lawyers...

The only clear sign of decline is Luna's ass. Someone should flog themselves about that.

i didn't even know dota had lore, I thought it was just wc3 heroes/units with reworked abilities and that was that
anyway, first episode impression is that this has potential to be better than or at least match berserk, which is totally unexpected

but still where the FUCK is techies?
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They introduced a behaviour score system a while back, at 10k (maximum) behaviour score, you get matched pretty much exclusively with similarly zen players.

Wasn't techies reworked in 6.86? Anyhow that rework was pathetic, a total abdication by Icefraud. Insta-gibbing people with mines isn't actually that toxic or bad design at all, it's normal to get destroyed with no recourse in dota2, if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Admittedly being able to deal damage from across the map is pretty obnoxious, but like with Tinker, the more serious problem is that these heroes are very good at defending high ground and very bad at taking highground.
Techies can take high ground with Aghs and tossing remote mines and instantly detonating them for massive AoE damage.

I would make techies' mines deal damage to both enemy AND allied buildings, including the green mines. No more autistic 70 minute highground defense, but in return he becomes very good at pushing.
IceFrog legitimately hates Techies. That's why Heroes of Newerth (which was DotA 2 before DotA 2 came out, probably it's better than DotA 2 now that 7.00 has been ruining it) deliberately refrained from porting him, although they eventually added Land Mines to Engineer.

He nerfed Techies' Suicide (this used to be Techies' ultimate, in the pre-IceFrog days) because he hated it and then started nerfing a lot of mines too. Techies got nerfed over and over against to make Suicide a non-viable strategy, btw. He nerfed the damage, he nerfed the radius, he created a ridiculous inner radius where someone has to be within melee range of Techies to take full 1500 damage instead of 500 iirc, he nerfed techies movement speed so that it shouldn't be possible for Techies to successfully run up to someone, nerfed the cooldown (multiple times), and eventually replaced it with Blast Off.

IceFrog did experiment with removing the Land Mine cap though. Originally there was a limited number you could plant in one location (which is what you would do), then Icefrog removed the cap, and lowered the cooldown, mana cost, and damage.
 
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Vladimir Putin congratulates Russian Dota 2 team for world championship win | PC Gamer
Vladimir Putin congratulates Russian Dota 2 team for world championship win
By Andy Chalk about 1 hour ago

Team Spirit, which beat Chinese team PSG.LGD this weekend, is the first Eastern European team to win the Dota 2 championship in a decade.

Moscow-based Team Spirit claimed the crown at The International 2021 this weekend, earning a prize payout of more than $18 million in the process—the biggest in esports history. The team also got an official letter of congratulations from Russian president Vladimir Putin.

"Congratulations on your well-deserved victory at The International-2021—the Dota-2 World Championship," Putin wrote in a message posted at Kremlin.ru (via Google Translate). "For the first time in history, the Russian team of the Team Spirit club won these prestigious competitions. Well done!

"On the way to the final, you demonstrated outstanding leadership qualities and solidarity, and in the decisive duel, which became a real test of skill and character, you managed to concentrate and seize the initiative from strong opponents at the most crucial moment. They have proven in practice that our esportsmen are always goal-oriented and capable of conquering any peaks."

Team Spirit is the first team from Eastern Europe to win The International in a decade—since Ukrainian team Natus Vincere (Na'Vi) won the first-ever International in 2011, in fact. That makes the win a pretty big deal in its own right, but it was also a very hard-fought battle: Team Spirit blew a 2-0 lead over Chinese team PSG.LGD but pulled off a win in the fifth and final game to seal the victory.

Putin's public congratulations adds an example to the case that mainstream esports recognition is growing, and it's also part of a long history of major powers using sporting events to reflect national glory. The US and USSR were the biggest players of the 20th century—the 1972 Olympic basketball final between them remains one of the most infamous events in international sports history—but smaller nations play the game too: The Canada/Soviet hockey series that took place the same year is still treated with nearly religious reverence in my home country. (Of course, Americans have their own locally famous USSR hockey game, because they just have to have one of everything.) The International isn't quite as high up in the public consciousness as those events were, but a win is a win—and among younger, esports-savvy Russians especially, Team Spirit's victory was a big one.
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"Hey Team Spirit, Vlad Putin here. Your president! Doing great! Just a reminder: There are 5 spots open in a Siberian Prison waiting for you if you don't win. No pressure! See you guys soon!!"
 
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Russkis beating China in Dota will be the start of WW3, mark my words men..
 

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