Game News Dragon Age Gets Its Own Languages

[obediah]

Actually, Bioware gets backing from the Canadian government, and they're really big on education, so it might not be so far fetched.

An interesting complication.

But we shouldn't let a special case keep us from fighting the general fallacy (that really seemed to take off with MMORPGS). That since people hired to do task B have different skills than those doing task A, pursuing task B has no affect on the potential effort put into task A.

 

[FireWolf]

Except that task B takes money away from task A. So task A has reduced resources because of task B. Human labour isnt the only finite resource.

They might be subsidised, but that rarely covers the whole cost.

 

[Sol Invictus]

You're assuming BioWare only has 2 dollars to spare. Anyhow what makes you think that spending less money on 'fluff' like these 3 languages is going to give a larger allowance to the gameplay? Everything is running on a budget.

 

[Shagnak]

I have no issues with finer details that will make the game more immersive, and I will put the language aspect in that category for now.
But like some others, I hope this does not detract from efforts spent elsewhere. And if it does not, then good on them. But if the rest of the game I find "so-so", then having a nicely implemented language will not save it for me.
As for it being old/new/gay news; well I didn't know about it do thanks for bringing it up.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Yeah, I didn't know about it until I read it, either. I knew about the Jade Empire thing, but it's easy to figure out that if I don't know about it, and I glance over game news websites a lot, chances are a lot of other people here wouldn't know about it, either.

 

[Slaytanic]

Slaytanic wrote:
... I really think they should concentrante more on the gameplay, storyline and originality...

Right... because the linguist they hired is also going to be working on gameplay, storlyine, and originality. The deginers, writers, and programmers are just going to watch.

Dumbass.

I think Obediah's post explains the point I was trying to make .

You should really consider thinking before you post.

 

[Otaku_Hanzo]

I have no problem with them spending money to hire a linguist. It's Bioware, after all. The game's gonna be what they were gonna make it into with or without the languages. They've got both the money to pull something like this off and they're doing it. Wah! Poor babies who think it's stupid. Have a tissue.

 

[Sol Invictus]

omg omg omg dragon age si gonna sux0rz by QUITE A BIT l0l!!! i no dis cos it has SO many wordz n even gots its own language omg can u imagin how many wordz there is gonna be shit d00d i wud just get so b0red out of my fukken hed tryin to read all of dat shit wtf man. teh monies they spent on wordz si bettar spent on GRAFIX AND HOT SEXXXXY ACTION GAMEPLAY

Omigawdz do u wanna cyber????

Greetz

 

[Elwro]

I also think that hiring one linguist can't worsen the game at all, while the languages may be an interesting feature.

 

[Vykromond]

Fluff is very subjective. Some might find the presence of good looking girls in a porn movie 'fluff' because all they want to see is vagina, and they don't care about whether the vagina belongs to a 40 year old crackwhore or a transexual amputee with a pair of cocks grafted to his nipples.

Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

 

[Volourn]

"Actually, Bioware gets backing from the Canadian government, and they're really big on education, so it might not be so far fetched."

They do? That's crap. Last i check, BIow as doingw ell so why is a game company getting government hand outs. That's utter bull. FUCL YOU, BIO! NO MORE FREE RIDES, LOL!

More seriously, Government should be spend money on things that actually matter. And, no, as much as I love games, games do NOT matter in the long run - at leats not government spending wise.

NO MORE FREE RIDES!

 

[Sol Invictus]

Like the Australian and French governments, the Canadian government sponsors, in part, projects made by companies meant for international export. They see a lot of revenue from the taxing those companies in turn, so it's an investment well spent. Nobody wants to buy garbage anyway.

You didn't think they did it out of the goodness of their hearts, did you?

 

[Volourn]

Governments shouldn't be involve dfinanically with any money making enterprise. This is baloney.

NO MORE FREE RIDES!!

 

[Slaytanic]

Yea Canada Roxx0Rz !!11


If they give handouts to game devs I think every company in the bussines should move their hq to Canada !
Government sponsorship doesn't mean they get money .

 

[Fez]

It should help the atmosphere of the game. Wikeley is a cunning linguist.

Did someone put a cage around the fatty's head to stop him eating the children?

 

[obediah]

Yea Canada Roxx0Rz !!11

If they give handouts to game devs I think every company in the bussines should move their hq to Canada !
Government sponsorship doesn't mean they get money .

A lot of speaker companies are Canadian - a lot of high quality at a great price brands. The reason for this is that the government built a state-of-the-art testing/research facility and gave relatively free access to Canadian companies. Companies in the U.S. and elsewhere had to spend a lot of money to do equivalent research.

 

[kris]

I think it should be clear that this is not made exclusively for this game, not in their minds nor in their planning. This is a investment for this and more planned products in this universe. May be for them one of the more important parts in giving their universe credibility and foundation.

This will IMO in no way affect gameplay or content as it does not affect their plans for the game in general. I am sure noone said in the design/planning phase "lets put in some unique languages instead of that lizardtown". It doesn't replace anything, it was just a extra feature they wanted and since it is already finished it won't affect anything else.

 

[Noviere]

Yeah and like this guy donated his time. Or pehaps the govenment gave bioware a $50K grant, on the condition that it only be spent on developing new languages for the game.

Myopic retard.

Or perhaps they have a budget, and aren't incompetant with money. This would seem evident considering they are a financially successful company.

"Guys... We don't have any money for the storyline anymore. Ray blew it all on fantasy languages!"

Give me a break.

 

[FireWolf]

Too much hostility.

All they're trying to say is that if they're spending money on this, they're not spending it elsewhere. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're unable to afford other things, just that they're spending money on it so their production costs are higher for something that a number of people would find inconsequential in the game. Especially a game that leans towards action (speculation. I havent read enough about this title to actually know if it is more action orientated).

Bioware are not stupid, if they want to give greater depth to their IP by creating a history and language, that's their choice. As long as it shows originality and doesn't go the tired old rout "peace loving eternal race is dying out - men are taking over".

I look forward to this game, even if it isnt a "true" RPG, it will hopefully be well made and an enjoyable game to play.

 

[DarkSign]

So he's only half as intelligent as you claim to be even though he speaks 11 languages and managed to land a high earning salary at one of the industry's most prestigious game developing studios on top of having a degree in psycholinguistics and is working on his PhD? Yeah, he's definitely only half as intelligent as you are.

I also suppose you've somehow managed to sneak out a copy of the Dragon Age gold master in order to make the very affirmed statement that the game is somehow lacking in content, even though 3 additional 2,500-word languages with their own unique set of grammar counts as additional content regardless of what you might think.

Wow. Sarvis might be right. You people DONT know sarcasm when you read it. Ex, the use of "half-way" was SARCASM. Obviously hes highly intelligent. What a retard. The point is that someone that intelligent could be working on something more furtile than a mere language.

And as for Volly,

"Anyways, this whole language things means shit to me. To me, it adds absolutely NOTHING to the game just like fake languages add nothing for me in LOTR, SW, or ST. "

And you were saying ....what, perchance? Thats what I thought.

So...for the reading comprehension IMPAIRED....A smart guy like this could be working on something worth more to the project.

Geezus. I highly doubt that the language would catch on seeing as how the other examples you gave Volly have multiple media methods (print, tv and movies) as opposed to just a videogame. It could possibly catch on, but you'd have to have the rabidly obsessed fans getting bombarded by "how cool it is" through various channels, which the game doesnt stack up with.

 

[Vykromond]

"lets put in some unique languages instead of that lizardtown."

Sure, why not? If a game is slightly smaller because of an immersive feature, I'm fine with that. More content does not translate into more fun; better content does, and languages make each NPC interaction and humanoid monster fight better content.

 

[Country_Gravy]

In essence:

fgfg hhghfg vbcvcvbn hhhgh dfdssd!

Translation:
R00fles!!

 

[Saint_Proverbius]

Kinda cool, but really, I'd rather the portion of their budget allocated to their newly appointed linguist to be allocated somewhere that will actually make a difference to the game. Depth of the universe is good, but languages are completely superfluous given that they are pointless in untranslated form.

Alternatively they could hire a linguist like Chomsky who would probably bring the capitalist fucks running Bioware to their knees.

I was wondering why they'd bother hiring a linguist when they could just get one of their programmers to spend a day two writing a bit of code that translated english in to a defined bit of gibberish. Get about a hundred of the most common syllables in English, run those through a table of translation like the Jive Translation programs do. Then use something like rot13 on the rest of the word. Then reorder the sentence so the structure is different.

There are modular dictionary apps that can be used for getting the part of speech of the words, so you can even order them based whether or not they're a noun, verb, and so forth.

 

[Volourn]

"So...for the reading comprehension IMPAIRED....A smart guy like this could be working on something worth more to the project."

You, idiot,. he is not an actual BIO eomployee. He was on contract to specifically work on the laguages. That means, if they didn't hire him to do the l;anguages; they wouldn't have hired him at all. Not to mention, his contract is over as of now. So, exactly what would he be working on? R00fles!


"Translation:
R00fles!!"

Good translation.

 

[DarkSign]

Sigh you keep missing the forest for the trees, fucktard.

Even if hes not a direct employee...hes brought in for one thing...the FUCKING MONEY AND MANPOWER could have been spent on something else. Way to try to save your ass with a semantic piece of bullshit.

Nice job stepping over my quote of you contradicting yourself and the difference between a videogame language and those of multi-media franchises, btw.

R00fles!