Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[curry]

heavy-handedness

Who cares? It's more gameplay. Nobody played through the Witcher 2 branches or DA:O's origins and went "FUCK YOU CD PROJEKT/BIOWARE FOR CREATING THIS, I AM TOTALLY NOT HAVING FUN HERE, THIS SUCKS"

Oh wow didn't realize you're such a Biodrone white knight

 

[Corporate_Jew_Master]

Who cares? It's more gameplay. Nobody played through the Witcher 2 branches or DA:O's origins and went "FUCK YOU CD PROJEKT/BIOWARE FOR CREATING THIS, I AM TOTALLY NOT HAVING FUN HERE, THIS SUCKS"

Deep Roads.

 

[Infinitron]

Who cares? It's more gameplay. Nobody played through the Witcher 2 branches or DA:O's origins and went "FUCK YOU CD PROJEKT/BIOWARE FOR CREATING THIS, I AM TOTALLY NOT HAVING FUN HERE, THIS SUCKS"

Deep Roads.

Repeating the same stuff again and again isn't more gameplay. New areas with more story, more dialogue and more quests is.

 

[Duraframe300]

Who cares? It's more gameplay. Nobody played through the Witcher 2 branches or DA:O's origins and went "FUCK YOU CD PROJEKT/BIOWARE FOR CREATING THIS, I AM TOTALLY NOT HAVING FUN HERE, THIS SUCKS"

Deep Roads.

Repeating the same stuff again and again isn't more gameplay. New areas with more story, more dialogue and more quests is.

There's a middle.

I prefer smaller choices to bigger, but binary ones like the mentioned W2 plot branch. Little choices working together in a complex way to create new situations is a lot more interesting to me than something big but inherently simple.

As a player I also try to understand the development process and adjust my expectations to it. As such there are things I'd rather see the developer spend time on than others. If that is wrong than so be it.

 

[DraQ]

They don't seem to understand why someone would play a game instead of youtubing it in the first place.

Fixed.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Origins make me try the PCs which Commissar would never ever touch like Elves and Mage Origins so it was best part of game; shame that consequence and a reactivity to those origins were reduced to the few lines of dialogue later on; Yes I know streaming and greater accessibility and all this liberal BS which crept into RPGs.

 

[LivingOne]

Can we have an arse system in the game? Other RPGs have done it.


x-aizen-x wrote...

Skyrim had mention this before the games release but really didn't implement like I thought it would. I think an arse system makes RPGs more smooth and fluid. DAI does already looks smooth enough but its still kind of dark soulish in gameplay. The animation when hacking through enemies was more or less a cring in DA2. But I think DAI fixed that. Anyway though I think an arse system would best fix this problem. What are your thoughts.

wat

 

[Infinitron]

omg guys stop. ur gonna get the thread closed. stop being immature.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Some Comrades from KKKodex troll the profligates from BSN or is this ''Serous'' Discussion?

 

[LivingOne]

The same guy just opened another thread: The thickness of th sworrds. ADD MORE CURVE and verity.

the GS in DAO LOOK A LOT THE SAME. please I want less thick and plump swords and more sharpness and make some curve.

But makes sure the curve is unnatural. Like the one I use.

Damn,I fell for it.Actually I'm still unsure if he's serious or trolling.

 

[Necroscope]

One glance into BSN and I feel like Lenny after experiencing a "black-jack".

 

[DalekFlay]

Origins make me try the PCs which Commissar would never ever touch like Elves and Mage Origins so it was best part of game; shame that consequence and a reactivity to those origins were reduced to the few lines of dialogue later on; Yes I know streaming and greater accessibility and all this liberal BS which crept into RPGs.

The game did not reflect your origin well enough, I agree. However from a roleplaying perspective it was still pretty sweet to take my mad-at-the-world elf bitch whose wedding day was ruined and storm across the land spreading bitchiness and anti-human sentiment.

 

[Valestein]

Origins make me try the PCs which Commissar would never ever touch like Elves and Mage Origins so it was best part of game; shame that consequence and a reactivity to those origins were reduced to the few lines of dialogue later on; Yes I know streaming and greater accessibility and all this liberal BS which crept into RPGs.

The game did not reflect your origin well enough, I agree. However from a roleplaying perspective it was still pretty sweet to take my mad-at-the-world elf bitch whose wedding day was ruined and storm across the land spreading bitchiness and anti-human sentiment.

I tried LARPing an aunt jemima city she-elf that was pro-human, 'manced Alistair and was going to wipe out the dalish.

 

[Night Goat]

The same guy just opened another thread: The thickness of th sworrds. ADD MORE CURVE and verity.

This guy's awesome. I hope he finds the 'dex.

 

[Caim]

Can we have an arse system in the game? Other RPGs have done it.

x-aizen-x wrote...

Skyrim had mention this before the games release but really didn't implement like I thought it would. I think an arse system makes RPGs more smooth and fluid. DAI does already looks smooth enough but its still kind of dark soulish in gameplay. The animation when hacking through enemies was more or less a cring in DA2. But I think DAI fixed that. Anyway though I think an arse system would best fix this problem. What are your thoughts.

wat

I checked that thread, and I sort of checked out at this:

Huge image of huge bitch

 

[Data4]

Can we have an arse system in the game? Other RPGs have done it.

x-aizen-x wrote...

Skyrim had mention this before the games release but really didn't implement like I thought it would. I think an arse system makes RPGs more smooth and fluid. DAI does already looks smooth enough but its still kind of dark soulish in gameplay. The animation when hacking through enemies was more or less a cring in DA2. But I think DAI fixed that. Anyway though I think an arse system would best fix this problem. What are your thoughts.

wat

I checked that thread, and I sort of checked out at this:

Huge image of huge bitch

 

[set]

You guys are conflating narrative and gameplay.

Gameplay can have big and numerous branches if you do a lot of simulating and calculating with the right algorithms. ie dungeon creation by algorithm can always be influenced by player choices to offer totally unique consequences to your actions to oders of magnitude that exceed the number of particles in the universe. It's what computers are good at doing.

But a narrative is impossible to "simulate" or "algorithmate"; it's hard-coded hand-built and human-made. In the case of narrative, you have to choose big branches or many small branches, it's too expensive to do both.

The problem is when developres also feel they need to choreograph the gameplay to the narrative, that narrative starts to creep on the complexity of gameplay.

 

[Roguey]

https://twitter.com/TheBoyChris/status/408805839068086272

"Why can I hear a horse whinny?" "Because that creature is immune to your damage." "Oh... Ok. (What the hell...?)"

I hope they decided to abandon DA2's Nightmare-only sometimes-excessively-abstract immunities. Some were a bit too random, turning it into trial-and-error unintuitive memorization. Plus Nightmare was awful.

 

[Chaotic_Heretic]

DA2 was awful

 

[Kidd]

by choose race did you mean it's a purely cosmetic thing that has nothing to do with the story or are there origins like in the original game (one of the best things about it as well as the world reacting to your race on certain occasions). And by being able to change the "appearance" of your companions do they mean you can equip them with anything or is this just some sort of set equipment changes because you know, each Bioware NPC has their own "personality" and "uniqueness" and allowing the player to interfere with that ruins that character's "brand". Oh and apparently it costs too much to make armour scale to different model sizes.

Let the BSN-dweller educate you!

Your character's backstory changes depending on your race/class combination (for instance, elf+mage could make you First to the Keeper in a dalish clan, while a rogue or warrior would not be), and I don't think you have any real choice at that point - your combination nets you a backstory. The idea is to add more reactivity to both your race and class in the actual game instead. There's been talk of the elves being discriminated against pretty heavily, with Qunari inquisitors being barred from accessing an area completely. What's more, NPCs apparently have eyes now and can recognise you're a mage.

So basically instead of front-ending the whole racial choice and consequence so heavily, it'll be spread out over the game. Whether this proves superior a design or how much resources they're actually spending in this is of course not apparent until the game comes out.

As for equipment, I think the idea is that your inquisitor and the companions share the armour pieces. However, the armours will change looks when equipped on companions to preserve their iconic look to a degree. For instance, the warrior Cassandra has decorative hearts on her armour and Vivienne the mage will always rock a wycked hat.

Click for GIF of Cassandra donning different armour sets.

Spoiler

 

[Shadenuat]

Yeah, dat pauldron would give some sweet +20 defense and make a huge difference, I am sure

 

[Roguey]

In DA, defense and armor are two separate values as it should be. ^_^

 

[Storyfag]

There's been talk of the elves being discriminated against pretty heavily, with Qunari inquisitors being barred from accessing an area completely. What's more, NPCs apparently have eyes now and can recognise you're a mage.

Sounds nice. But BiowEAr has, ah, misrepresented their final product before...

 

[Kidd]

In DA, defense and armor are two separate values as it should be. ^_^

It doesn't work like in the DA P&P game though. I would love if the games just converted into the P&P mechanics, cause they're pretty downright awesome. Not revolutionary, but awesome.

I believe that would be *clears throat* a massive incline.


... am I using Codex speak correctly now? =)

 

[Roguey]

Yes.

I'm unfamiliar with the P&P so I dunno how well it'd translate. I'm sure some changes would have to made, considering the different media (also I've been unsatisfied with every tabletop RPG I've played/read about, but the same applies to crpgs so).