Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Necroscope]

BSN: Romances?

Even more accessible: everyone in your team is a pansexual tranny (including anthropomorphic members)!

Random biodrone: Holy shit this is so innovative, they're the first dev that went beyond the limits of gener and orientation!

 

[DalekFlay]

Even more accessible: everyone in your team is a pansexual tranny (including anthropomorphic members)!

Also: sluts.

 

[RPGMaster]

http://www.koobismo.com/2013/03/in-the-workshop-with-david-gaider/

A new, 74-minute-long interview with the awesome David Gaider, a video game writing legend and a man behind Baldur’s Gate 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights and the Dragon Age series.

 

[Volourn]

He's definitely a legend on the Codex since youa re guys are always sucking his decade.

FFS Don't worry about Gaydar. Worry about yourself. RPGmasterbaiter.

 

[Andyman Messiah]

I have to agree with Dead or Alive Xtreme Volleyball 2. Get over it.

Christ, it's not like it means anything.

 

[RPGMaster]

He's definitely a legend on the Codex since youa re guys are always sucking his decade.

FFS Don't worry about Gaydar. Worry about yourself. RPGmasterbaiter.

Lighten up man. It's amazing how someone with such a shit taste in games takes life so seriously.

 

[Volourn]

y sough seereis?

 

[Hepler's Vagina]

http://www.koobismo.com/2013/03/in-the-workshop-with-david-gaider/

A new, 74-minute-long interview with the awesome David Gaider, a video game writing legend and a man behind Baldur’s Gate 2, Knights of the Old Republic, Neverwinter Nights and the Dragon Age series.

22:30

The bigger the budget, the more you need to sell, the more of an audience you need, and it's not necessarily [...] that core audience that is most focused on the game, and thus you're gonna have to make some concessions on how you write it. There are numerous things that that affects [...], maybe you need to be more visual, maybe you can't expect the player to read more [....] There are fans that enjoy having a game ask things of them and I think it would be fair to say that the larger audience [...] many of them don't want that necessarily. And that's not to say they want it to be easy or they want something that's "dumb" or not challenging, what they want is something that's more accessible [...] those compromises tend to be the things that the core audience like the most, right? They enjoy having things asked of them, they enjoy being challenged ,and I think that definitely has merit.

54:54

There are things which other games do, other RPGs, which if we did, we would get castigated for, immediately. Even though they're fine because that's what they do, this other company or this other game. They do that, that's fine, that's their thing - if we we did it, "oh what you're doing isn't an RPG anymore". "Well isn't that an RPG?". "Yes, but that's their RPG"... They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

1:00:42 ("lesbian orgies") ?
1:01:14 Gaider "dances around the office"

 

[Infinitron]

There are things which other games do, other RPGs, which if we did, we would get castigated for, immediately. Even though they're fine because that's what they do, this other company or this other game. They do that, that's fine, that's their thing - if we we did it, "oh what you're doing isn't an RPG anymore". "Well isn't that an RPG?". "Yes, but that's their RPG"... They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

Oh man. You should provide the full context for this sentence.

"Our female players don't want to play a grey, scarred character like The Nameless One."

 

[Diablo169]

There are things which other games do, other RPGs, which if we did, we would get castigated for, immediately. Even though they're fine because that's what they do, this other company or this other game. They do that, that's fine, that's their thing - if we we did it, "oh what you're doing isn't an RPG anymore". "Well isn't that an RPG?". "Yes, but that's their RPG"... They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

Oh man. You should provide the full context for this sentence.

"Our female players don't want to play a grey, scarred character like The Nameless One."

So he basically just called Bioware's entire female fanbase shallow? I hope that bites him on his ass.

 

[Jick Magger]

So he basically just called Bioware's entire female fanbase shallow? I hope that bites him on his ass.

These are the same people who refuse to play The Witcher because Geralt is a pre-established heterosexual male whom they cannot project their degenerate sexual fantasies upon, so he's not entirely wrong.

 

[Diablo169]

Doesn't matter if hes right or wrong, never call a spade a spade when your fan base is as fickle as Bioware's.

 

[Lagole Gon]

This quotation needs David Gaider in drag next to it.

 

[Cromwell]

There are things which other games do, other RPGs, which if we did, we would get castigated for, immediately. Even though they're fine because that's what they do, this other company or this other game. They do that, that's fine, that's their thing - if we we did it, "oh what you're doing isn't an RPG anymore". "Well isn't that an RPG?". "Yes, but that's their RPG"... They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

Oh man. You should provide the full context for this sentence.

"Our female players don't want to play a grey, scarred character like The Nameless One."

Since its possible to fuck thane in Mass effect I wouldnt bet on the fact that a large part of the vocal female fanbase would not like the nameless one. If they can fuck him.

 

[Commissar Draco]

Has to brofist our resident Mossad agent if You're not sexual deviant/white male you won't find nothing for yourself in future Biowhore games. Hope they'll feel the backslash cause it is 30+-40+ CISprivileged persons like me who have interest and most cash to actually buy cRPGs.

 

[Kem0sabe]

We these types running things, there is absolutely no hope in bioware making a decent rpg again.

 

[Bahamut]

We these types running things, there is absolutely no hope in bioware making a decent rpg again.

But, hey they's always a chance for good laugh for a month or two, like with anything bioware released lately

 

[Necroscope]

And that's not to say they want it to be easy or they want something that's "dumb" or not challenging, what they want is something that's more accessible [...]

Attaching PIN code to your cash card is NOT stupid, it just makes your money moar accessible.

They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

That's because they really care...

 

[DalekFlay]

The bigger the budget, the more you need to sell, the more of an audience you need, and it's not necessarily [...] that core audience that is most focused on the game, and thus you're gonna have to make some concessions on how you write it. There are numerous things that that affects [...], maybe you need to be more visual, maybe you can't expect the player to read more [....] There are fans that enjoy having a game ask things of them and I think it would be fair to say that the larger audience [...] many of them don't want that necessarily. And that's not to say they want it to be easy or they want something that's "dumb" or not challenging, what they want is something that's more accessible [...] those compromises tend to be the things that the core audience like the most, right? They enjoy having things asked of them, they enjoy being challenged ,and I think that definitely has merit.

Still preaching this same old shit, eh Dave?

I like their games more than a lot of people here do but I still want to see Bioware fall at this point just because they're such perfect examples of mainstream-focused idiocy. Make great games and build an audience? No. Make niche games and budget accordingly? No. Focus on a core aspect of your game and make it excellent for everyone, then niche the rest? No. Instead they try and make their games appeal to everyone on the planet, chasing the impossible dream, pandering the ultimate pander, hoping marketing will complete the sellout. Meanwhile their development budget skyrockets due to in-office pool tables and endless pointless meetings in corporate glory.

Stop trying to make everyone happy Dave and your games might actually have artistic vision and merit.

 

[Roguey]

Stop trying to make everyone happy Dave and your games might actually have artistic vision and merit.

That's not his call to make.

Also there's no way in hell any Bioware game would ever have artistic merit regardless of whom they're targeting.

 

[Necroscope]

Instead they try and make their games appeal to everyone on the planet, chasing the impossible dream, pandering the ultimate pander, hoping marketing will complete the sellout. Meanwhile their development budget skyrockets due to in-office pool tables and endless pointless meetings in corporate glory.

With a well-thought-out marketing strategy, proper community handling, good PR/damage control, somewhat competent staff, and a decent game without any unredeemable fuck-ups they could actually succeed - at least to some, yet still satisfying, extent (vide Bethesda). UnFortunately, neither of the mentioned Bioware can get right; their pre-release marketing is a bunch of obsolete huckster tricks, their community site is a street fighter, and their recent games either sucked beyond denial (DA2), or unleashed probably the biggest backslash in gaming history. Oh, and about the competence just think of ME3; without those moronic endings - that anyone with half of a brain could predict would unleash a Middle-earth worth shitstorm (and folks actually did due to the script leaks) - or at least a proper handling of the fallout thereafter that still could have been turned into a benefit, this game would be a huge success despite all of its other flaws that emotionally engaged bandwagon passengers would stifle. No, instead they went into this Artistic Integrity™ nonsense eventually embarrassing themselves even more.

 

[Jick Magger]

I'm pretty sure these guys don't even have a fucking PR division. Having developers moderate the forums and basically outright tell the fans that they don't care about the decisions they made in DA:O, having a fat asian man hang around there 24/7 to shut down threads that have even the slightest hint of negativity, and actually have the balls to blame the fans for the poor reception to the ME3 fiasco shows that their understanding of the trade is fucking amateur at best.

 

[Roguey]

unleashed probably the biggest backslash in gaming history.

E.T. for the Atari helped crash the industry. ME3 didn't come close to doing any such thing.

 

[Tommy Wiseau]

There are things which other games do, other RPGs, which if we did, we would get castigated for, immediately. Even though they're fine because that's what they do, this other company or this other game. They do that, that's fine, that's their thing - if we we did it, "oh what you're doing isn't an RPG anymore". "Well isn't that an RPG?". "Yes, but that's their RPG"... They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

Oh man. You should provide the full context for this sentence.

"Our female players don't want to play a grey, scarred character like The Nameless One."

Neither does their male audience, probably. "I can't select my gender/appearance, what the hell, this isn't an RPG."

 

[JarlFrank]

There are things which other games do, other RPGs, which if we did, we would get castigated for, immediately. Even though they're fine because that's what they do, this other company or this other game. They do that, that's fine, that's their thing - if we we did it, "oh what you're doing isn't an RPG anymore". "Well isn't that an RPG?". "Yes, but that's their RPG"... They have certain expectations and they're very vocal if we don't do them.

Oh man. You should provide the full context for this sentence.

"Our female players don't want to play a grey, scarred character like The Nameless One."

Neither does their male audience, probably. "I can't select my gender/appearance, what the hell, this isn't an RPG."

"I can't give the main character a sex change or cosmetic face change operation, what the hell, this game is so cis."