Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Goat Vomit]

Did you could jump in Torment, Fallout, Icewind dale, baldur's gate, Jagged Alliance, X-com ?

I can jump in PnP.

You can do everything in PnP. That's the point. No one can make you a game where you can do everything. Devs prioritize. When they add complex scenery with jumping, they're removing something else.

You're right that jumping isn't very high on the list of things needed in a CRPG but in games that prioritize exploration it does detract from the experience if you can't jump. This obviously only concerns 3D games and not most top down games at that. When you place the camera right behind the player character and gives the player exact and full direct control it comes with certain expectations.

 

[Grunker]

but in games that prioritize exploration it does detract from the experience if you can't jump.

so for example not dao or the witcher which are the two games people complain the most about when it comes to jumping

 

[Immortal]

People here complaining about having more freedom to move, just because its bioware. Fucking codex.

Wait.. your just noticing the inherent hypocrisy and no win complaints of RPG's now?!

In one thread we complain about lack of freedom and corridor areas then complain about jumping and open terrain.
We complain about over the top animations like back flipping dwarves then 3 pages later someone complains about archers being too simplistic and looking like arrow shooting machines..

I love it.. it's great!
What was the quote again? "Odds are, something you like very much sucks. Why? Because ...

 

[Athelas]

If it's not jumping, it's rolling. Pick your poison.

 

[abija]

but in games that prioritize exploration it does detract from the experience if you can't jump.

so for example not dao or the witcher which are the two games people complain the most about when it comes to jumping

It's because they put really low obstacles you need to move around instead of stepping over. Which makes it obvious and annoying. If you do your environments properly you can get away with not being able to jump.

 

[Lhynn]

Did you could jump in Torment, Fallout, Icewind dale, baldur's gate, Jagged Alliance, X-com ?

I can jump in PnP.

You can do everything in PnP. That's the point. No one can make you a game where you can do everything. Devs prioritize. When they add complex scenery with jumping, they're removing something else.

Like another romance?
Are you seriously giving them shit for spending time and budget on something that adds to exploration and mobility on a game that allows you to get fucked by a cow after "emotionally engaging" voice acted dialogues that are probably over half an hour long in total?
Give me a fucking break grunker.

 

[Kem0sabe]

there are no attribute points?

 

[Goat Vomit]

but in games that prioritize exploration it does detract from the experience if you can't jump.

so for example not dao or the witcher which are the two games people complain the most about when it comes to jumping

You don't see me complaining, do you? As I said, I think it is the third person perspective that skew people's expectations. The dragon ages and The Witcher were hybrids and and some people expected a level of control similair to say Gothic. That's why they made the awesome button, people on consoles thought the combat felt awful since it wasn't reactive enough, playing it like an infinity engine game on the PC it wasn't so bad but playing it like Kotor it was. Things that work in isometric view don't work when you can see how short that progress blocking fence really is.

 

[Immortal]

Did you could jump in Torment, Fallout, Icewind dale, baldur's gate, Jagged Alliance, X-com ?

I can jump in PnP.

You can do everything in PnP. That's the point. No one can make you a game where you can do everything. Devs prioritize. When they add complex scenery with jumping, they're removing something else.

Like another romance?
Are you seriously giving them shit for spending time and budget on something that adds to exploration and mobility on a game that allows you to get fucked by a cow after "emotionally engaging" voice acted dialogues that are probably over half an hour long in total?
Give me a fucking break grunker.

I am laughing my ass off at work and people are asking me what is so funny.

 

[kris]

Jumping, flying and other boundary nullifying mechanisms tend to reduce exploration fun imho. Exploration becomes a ploughing chore where you run up and down the map in methodical lines unhindered by cliffs or paths, to eliminate fog of war.

Now if you have (say) a fence you can't leap over but can access the other side of it by going through a house cellar ...that's my kind of exploration. I liked Avernum because it had rivers and mountains as boundaries but you only got the flying carpet at the end of the game and boats only worked in certain places so you had to actively think through how to get from A to B.

This view is just sad. I don't particularly care about jumping flying or swimming in particular. What I care about is arbitrary walls that herds you into content as you play in a corridor and that is often one of the things I complained about in Bioware games. They have one way into places and there never any sort of shortcut.

People here complaining about having more freedom to move, just because its bioware. Fucking codex.

Did you could jump in Torment, Fallout, Icewind dale, baldur's gate, Jagged Alliance, X-com ?

In those games you were not herded along a corridor even in "open" maps. In their maps you could generally walk around to all places and buildings at least sometimes had more than one entrance and several paths inside. Not to forget that they did have their problems like fences you needed to open when any able bodied person could easily get past it IRL.

 

[kris]

I don't know wether I should be thankful or worried but Friendly Fire was turned into a toggle. Naturally, I am contractually obligated to play a mage so that's it. I now look forward to November, kris.

Too bad konjad isn't around.

I did the unholy thing and put in a preorder for the game. My ass is prepared and ready.

EDIT - I actually failed with the preorder, somehow my credit card was not accepted. Guess I'll just pick it up from a store then.

EDIT2 - You have to pay €15 more to get it for a console. suckers.

 

[set]

These reviews cement the cycle - these are the same reviews I read for DA2. These scores are the same scores DA2 received. This game will be just as bad as DA2 or I'll willingly roll around in my own shit.

 

[Tehdagah]

http://www.hardcoregamer.com/2014/11/11/review-dragon-age-inquisition/116693/

I like how this site is called HARDCOREGAMER yet the review, stating DAI is basically the best game ever made, is a copy/pasta from the likes of IGN, Polygon and so on...

This is like Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 all over again, but this time with a positive reception.

 

[imweasel]

LOL. Fucking hilarious video.

What the fuck was Bioware thinking? FFS.

 

[SophosTheWise]

while a more delicate contractual dispute in an Orlesian court could take your diplomatic ambassador 16 hours to remedy. These missions continue progressing even when the game is turned off, however. So even when I found the longest missions intimidating, it was great to turn on the game the next day and have a reward immediately waiting.

Awesome! I don't even have to play the game to finish missions! How satisfying!

 

[Malpercio]

Most stories and decisions just provide trinkets or Dragon Age's equivalent of Mass Effect 3's War Assets, though others can unlock their own stories and decisions further down the story. Somewhat oddly they have timers of the kind you'd expect to see in an F2P mobile game, but those don't get in the way. Actual story quests are clearly labelled, and the flavour ones optional.

Dragon Age: Inquisition treats its characters with great respect; Iron Bull's description of sex among the Qunari is as honest as his admiration of a transgender mercenary is honorable.

the immature, butt-obsessed elven rogue Sera

Excellent writing there Bioware.

Let's look at the bright side, if it's all like this, it will hilarious to play!

Also, they just wanted to give fanfiction writers an head-start!

 

[Infinitron]

while a more delicate contractual dispute in an Orlesian court could take your diplomatic ambassador 16 hours to remedy. These missions continue progressing even when the game is turned off, however. So even when I found the longest missions intimidating, it was great to turn on the game the next day and have a reward immediately waiting.

Awesome! I don't even have to play the game to finish missions! How satisfying!

Well, that's unusual. I imagine it's another way of prolonging the game's life and keeping it from being sold back to GameStop.

I wonder if this will become a standard feature in future AAA games.

(Note: I assume the missions in question are not meant to be done by the player. They're timed background events, just that the timer continues even when you're not playing the game.)

 

[DragoFireheart]

You'd think that after all these years of attempting to write romances that Bioware would be good at it at some point, but nope.

Bioshit gonna bioshit, riding the bull hur dur

 

[SophosTheWise]

LOL. Fucking hilarious video.

What the fuck was Bioware thinking? FFS.

This is fucking incredible, I'm dying with laughter

 

[circ]

Most stories and decisions just provide trinkets or Dragon Age's equivalent of Mass Effect 3's War Assets, though others can unlock their own stories and decisions further down the story. Somewhat oddly they have timers of the kind you'd expect to see in an F2P mobile game, but those don't get in the way. Actual story quests are clearly labelled, and the flavour ones optional.

Dragon Age: Inquisition treats its characters with great respect; Iron Bull's description of sex among the Qunari is as honest as his admiration of a transgender mercenary is honorable.

the immature, butt-obsessed elven rogue Sera

Excellent writing there Bioware.

In BioWare's defense atleast it's not FELICITATE ME.

but. Just. What the fuck.

 

[Villagkouras]

So, isn't there any slight, slim, tiny chance that this game might be actually good?

 

[Lhynn]

My only problem with this game is that i cannot physically stop you from playing this piece of shit.

 

[SophosTheWise]

Most stories and decisions just provide trinkets or Dragon Age's equivalent of Mass Effect 3's War Assets, though others can unlock their own stories and decisions further down the story. Somewhat oddly they have timers of the kind you'd expect to see in an F2P mobile game, but those don't get in the way. Actual story quests are clearly labelled, and the flavour ones optional.

Dragon Age: Inquisition treats its characters with great respect; Iron Bull's description of sex among the Qunari is as honest as his admiration of a transgender mercenary is honorable.

the immature, butt-obsessed elven rogue Sera

Excellent writing there Bioware.

In BioWare's defense atleast it's not FELICITATE ME.

but. Just. What the fuck.

"You wanna ride the Iron Bull?"


*begin relationship*


Goddamnit.

 

[titus]

 

[Wulfric Pinewood]

You give to much shit about jumping, who wants to jump anyway. How long ago have you jumped in real life? Last time i make a jump in august... once...
Screw the jumping.:kwafuckyeah: