Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[Bliblablubb]

To be fair, I think it's awesome that some game journalists accept that they made mistakes. There's a lot of gaming outlets that would never admit that.

Well, it only was a half-assed "no repercussions" admission. The reasons they stated for "not deserving a high score" were all around during their extended playing. They know readers have the attention span of a ferret and will have forgotten that DA2 had a higher score once before dinner.
So the result is a win-win for them: DAI has a higher score than it's predecessor (making EA happy) and Winston changing the DA2 score has no negative effects since the game isn't promoted anymore.
And INGSOC has always been at war with Eurasia.

Didn't even Gaymespot admit they gave Lolblivion a far too high score and then just laughed it off, knowing their audience has already moved to the next overhyped game and doesn't even remember oblivion?

 

[Genma:TheDestroyer]

"But still, no one really gave a shit a Qunari MAGE was leading the entire Inquisition. Leading a force of, like, Templars and heroes from around the lands. It was a Qunari mage at the top of that and no one really minded."

And that *claps hands* says all that needs to be said.

 

[Immortal]

To be fair, I think it's awesome that some game journalists accept that they made mistakes. There's a lot of gaming outlets that would never admit that.

Admitting mistakes is a time-honored tradition.

- OMG! Did you guys play Oblivion? It's AWESOME!!! 12/10! Buy it now! Get two copies - it's so good you gonna need a backup!
... years later...
- Fallout 3? One word - WOW! It's AWESOME! We all know that Oblivion was kinda shitty and bland, but Fallout 3 is da bomb!
... years later...
- SKYREEEEIM!!!! You'll be playing it forever and then pass the cum-stained disk to your children asking them to continue your adventures! That's how fucking good it is. Unlike Fallout 3 which clearly was shite. Sure, we gave it 15/10 but we are men enough to admit our mistakes (since nobody cares about these games now).

EA releases Seasons Passes and makes tons of money before people realize how hard they are being shilled
"We're sorry"
EA Pushes Dragon Age 2 out in 8 months to capitalize on Mass Effect Marketing Hubub
"Sorry! We are really sorry"
EA voted worst company of the year.. second year in a row
"We are sorry.. we will do better"
EA releases Sim City which doesn't work at all because of always online and it was pushed out the door too quickly
"Sorry...."
EA releases Battlefield... It is a buggy mess and almost unplayable for months.
"Sorrrryyyyy.."
EA Releaes The Sims 4 without Swimm- "SORRY!"

 

[eremita]

Maybe 3,500 years from now someone will find Oblivion discs and will conclude it's the best game ever made and the entire world will become influenced by Oblivion and parents will name their children Todd, Tod, To'd and Todeesha.

http://www.pcgamer.com/parents-name-child-dovahkiin-earn-a-lifetimes-worth-of-bethesda-games/

I don't know what is worse.

Being named Dovaklin or getting lifetime worth of Betsheda games.

Being named Dovahkiin of course! First and foremost because it indicates those two people are fucking retarded and should never have been allowed to procreate. And when they did, the government should take their child away, saving it from their destructive influence.

 

[polo]

You are just jealous cause you wanted to be named Dovhakin.

 

[eremita]

Anyone got footage of this being played on a higher difficulty setting? All I've seen are full close-camera-no-pause encounters where the players are pretty much letting auto-attack go, trying to use abilities when they are off CD (and I do mean trying, so they could do even more damage and crush it quicker) on one character and letting AI handle the rest. Main 'player actually doing something' moment appears to be moving behind the big shield guys for extra damage. Seems it would be absolutely destroyed if they were doing something as basic as focus firing.

Typical footage I've seen:
Trigger warning: He says story is the most important part of an RPG

AngryJoe tried it on nightmare. It's easy in the beginning cause it's tutorial, but he gets annihilated by first tutorial boss (jump to last third). Although to be fair, he plays like a retard. I think it's gonna be quite challenging on higher difficulties. Boss fights probably harder than Origins/DA2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCJfuY142I&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ

 

[eremita]

http://uproxx.com/tv/2014/08/parent...game-of-thrones-characters-is-out-of-control/

What the fuck?! I hate all of those people with passion for how dumb they are.

 

[Immortal]

Anyone got footage of this being played on a higher difficulty setting? All I've seen are full close-camera-no-pause encounters where the players are pretty much letting auto-attack go, trying to use abilities when they are off CD (and I do mean trying, so they could do even more damage and crush it quicker) on one character and letting AI handle the rest. Main 'player actually doing something' moment appears to be moving behind the big shield guys for extra damage. Seems it would be absolutely destroyed if they were doing something as basic as focus firing.

Typical footage I've seen:
Trigger warning: He says story is the most important part of an RPG

AngryJoe tried it on nightmare. It's easy in the beginning cause it's tutorial, but he gets annihilated by first tutorial boss (jump to last third). Although to be fair, he plays like a retard. I think it's gonna be quite challenging on higher difficulties. Boss fights probably harder than Origins/DA2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VCJfuY142I&list=UUsgv2QHkT2ljEixyulzOnUQ

That's good.. I didn't notice the increased difficulty in DA 2 until around the end of act 1 with that rock monster thing.. up to that point I was really only micromanaging my mage character,

 

[circ]

Nightmare isn't a challenge in the entire video, he just screwed up a few times. I wouldn't play it on nightmare anyway, so much hp bloat it's insane. Fun preview though, because he was obviously enjoying himself and gave a fair bit of information.

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Booo hooo hooo, muh corrupt gaming journalism, yadda yadda.

You guys should cut gamestar some slack. For one thing it was a pretty long and indepth review, so you can't say they think their audience is stupid and has no attention span. Secondly, they do criticise they game quite a bit and do not try to sell it as the best thing ever. Thirdly, if they really thought that their readers had no attention span and were stupid, there would not be any need to mention the DA2 review at all, they could just ignore it and forget that it ever happened. Fourthly, they do not even say it is the best in series, they in fact make it quite clear that it is not as good as DA:O (and even earlier titles such as BG).

But muh, why did it get such a high score then!? Evil corrupt journalism strikes again!

Well, maybe thats because the game is actually... fun?

 

[circ]

Yeah. The entire first half of that gamestar review was pure unadulterated critique.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Reviews should not have a score, for all the crap Kotaku does, i very much support their "should i buy this? Yes or No recommendation" reviews. Because with scores, you get stuff like the eurogamer review, which spends half the article criticizing the game and then goes on to give it a high score.

 

[FuriousGamer87]

Anyone who review Cisquistion for Codexia, please fill this bingo sheet for the TL;DR version.
Thanks in advance.

 

[SophosTheWise]

Anyone who review Cisquistion for Codexia, please fill this bingo sheet for the TL;DR version.
Thanks in advance.

 

[eremita]

Reviews should not have a score, for all the crap Kotaku does, i very much support their "should i buy this? Yes or No recommendation" reviews. Because with scores, you get stuff like the eurogamer review, which spends half the article criticizing the game and then goes on to give it a high score.

The Eurogamer guy said in comments he criticized it, because he expected best game evah, yet he only got solid game and that's why he gave it 8/10. Isn't that retarded? He has absolutely zero understanding about the "neutral" base reviews should start with and build upon that (or go beneath in case of shitty game) - you should start on "zero axis", then for example praise some aspect (it's good), yet specify it's actually not without flaws/shortcomings (it's not great). If you state "great" as a basis for your review (without even making it clear for your readers), than you're gonna naturally criticize the game whole time for its good parts and say "yep, this is as expected" in case of great ones (which he does and says he couldn't elaborate because of spoilers). In the end, after constant bashing, you end up with 8/10. What a completely fucked up and unprofessional approach...

 

[Immortal]

Booo hooo hooo, muh corrupt gaming journalism, yadda yadda.

You guys should cut gamestar some slack. For one thing it was a pretty long and indepth review, so you can't say they think their audience is stupid and has no attention span. Secondly, they do criticise they game quite a bit and do not try to sell it as the best thing ever. Thirdly, if they really thought that their readers had no attention span and were stupid, there would not be any need to mention the DA2 review at all, they could just ignore it and forget that it ever happened. Fourthly, they do not even say it is the best in series, they in fact make it quite clear that it is not as good as DA:O (and even earlier titles such as BG).

But muh, why did it get such a high score then!? Evil corrupt journalism strikes again!

Well, maybe thats because the game is actually... fun?

#GURMERGATE !!!

 

[SausageInYourFace]

Yeah. The entire first half of that gamestar review was pure unadulterated critique.

By first half you mean first page? Here, let me quote some parts of just the first page for you.

Nur ein wahres Dragon Age, das ist es nicht.

höchstens 30 bis 35 Spielstunden. So viel also zu den »50 Stunden Haupthandlung«, die uns Bioware versprochen hat.

Ja, Dragon Age: Inquisition ist ein Spiel wie ein Supermodel: groß, geschickt vermarktet, eine echte Augenweide und an manchen Stellen, äh, künstlich aufgeblasen. Nur das von Bioware angekündigte wahre Dragon Age, das Dragon Age, das die Scharte des zweiten Teils ein für alle Mal auswetzt - das ist Inquisition nicht.

In einem Aspekt allerdings hat das Vorbild, hat die Skyrim-Welt weiterhin die Nase vorn, nämlich bei der Dynamik. In Himmelsrand passiert außerhalb von Quests viel mehr Überraschendes (...) Dragon Age: Inquisition wirkt im Vergleich dazu recht statisch.

Etwas schade ist auch, dass es in der Inquisition-Welt mit dem orlesianischen Val Royeaux nur eine echte Großstadt gibt, die zudem nur aus ein paar Sträßchen besteht. (...) Und ja, wir erkunden. Wir erkunden, als ob's kein morgen gäbe. Und keine Haupthandlung, aber dazu später.

Klar, die seelenlose Sammelei passt eigentlich nicht zu einem Rollenspiel, weil sie keine Helden-, sondern Fleißarbeit darstellt.

Fake and soulless, eh? Fucking Gamestar, BW sure paid them millions for this review, corrupt gaming journalism indeed.

 

[eremita]

Booo hooo hooo, muh corrupt gaming journalism, yadda yadda.

You guys should cut gamestar some slack. For one thing it was a pretty long and indepth review, so you can't say they think their audience is stupid and has no attention span. Secondly, they do criticise they game quite a bit and do not try to sell it as the best thing ever. Thirdly, if they really thought that their readers had no attention span and were stupid, there would not be any need to mention the DA2 review at all, they could just ignore it and forget that it ever happened. Fourthly, they do not even say it is the best in series, they in fact make it quite clear that it is not as good as DA:O (and even earlier titles such as BG).

But muh, why did it get such a high score then!? Evil corrupt journalism strikes again!

Well, maybe thats because the game is actually... fun?

Gamestar review is pretty cool, but DAO is obviously a favorite game of the reviewer so I kind of have a hard time taking what he says fro granted...

 

[MrMarbles]

Reviews should not have a score, for all the crap Kotaku does, i very much support their "should i buy this? Yes or No recommendation" reviews. Because with scores, you get stuff like the eurogamer review, which spends half the article criticizing the game and then goes on to give it a high score.

Observation: Reviewers are too moronic to use a score-based grading system properly.
Diagnosis: Score-based grading systems should be abandoned.

I don't see the logic. There is nothing wrong with game reviewers giving a game a score, as long as they are willing to actually use the entire scale. "Yes" or "no" is just another example of a scoring system, but with a 2-point scale.

 

[FuriousGamer87]

Seriously though, I will wait for either Christcenteredgamer or Codex to release a review first before any consideration to spend any time on anything related to Cisquistion, aside from mocking it .

 

[Deleted member 7219]

To be fair, I think it's awesome that some game journalists accept that they made mistakes. There's a lot of gaming outlets that would never admit that.

Admitting mistakes is a time-honored tradition.

- OMG! Did you guys play Oblivion? It's AWESOME!!! 12/10! Buy it now! Get two copies - it's so good you gonna need a backup!
... years later...
- Fallout 3? One word - WOW! It's AWESOME! We all know that Oblivion was kinda shitty and bland, but Fallout 3 is da bomb!
... years later...
- SKYREEEEIM!!!! You'll be playing it forever and then pass the cum-stained disk to your children asking them to continue your adventures! That's how fucking good it is. Unlike Fallout 3 which clearly was shite. Sure, we gave it 15/10 but we are men enough to admit our mistakes (since nobody cares about these games now).

Where was that post? I can't find it and I can't remember writing it. "Awesome" is definitely a word I'd rather not use.

 

[hell bovine]

I got off. Such a cute lazy eye, probably has brain damage from abusive neckbeard boyfriend.

Turns out I can't even play this shit, fuck windows 7.

Origin game webpage lists Windows 7 or 8 as requirements, if that helps.

 

[Bliblablubb]

You guys should cut gamestar some slack.

IF we forget for a tiny splitsecond that we are on the 'dex, where no good deed goes unpunished and one of the highest praise something can get is "still better than the derp roads", well then... yes Gamestar is actually one of the better commercial printmagazines out there. They TRY to be critical even towards AAA games, but then have to back down because the evil corporation breathes down their necks. So you get reviews that sound like they were supposed to end with "banal, boring, shit", yet they turn into an 8/10. Which is still better than the usual 9/10 - 10/10 GOTY shit the other mags spit out. Once you've realized that, Gamestar becomes.... good for what they are.

Now let's get back to bitching, because praising is so oldfag.

 

[circ]

Yeah. The entire first half of that gamestar review was pure unadulterated critique.

By first half you mean first page? Here, let me quote some parts of just the first page for you.

Ok I got my review sites mixed up because I don't really care. It was something GamesomethingTV (videogamertv -ed), some review on youtube, which I thought you were referring to or atleast I was.

 

[Vault Dweller]

To be fair, I think it's awesome that some game journalists accept that they made mistakes. There's a lot of gaming outlets that would never admit that.

Admitting mistakes is a time-honored tradition.

- OMG! Did you guys play Oblivion? It's AWESOME!!! 12/10! Buy it now! Get two copies - it's so good you gonna need a backup!
... years later...
- Fallout 3? One word - WOW! It's AWESOME! We all know that Oblivion was kinda shitty and bland, but Fallout 3 is da bomb!
... years later...
- SKYREEEEIM!!!! You'll be playing it forever and then pass the cum-stained disk to your children asking them to continue your adventures! That's how fucking good it is. Unlike Fallout 3 which clearly was shite. Sure, we gave it 15/10 but we are men enough to admit our mistakes (since nobody cares about these games now).

Where was that post? I can't find it and I can't remember writing it. "Awesome" is definitely a word I'd rather not use.

My apologies, misquoted.