Dragon Age: The Console release of 2009!!

[DemonKing]

Not too surprised. Wonder who really decided this though, Bioware or EA

There's no difference these days.

EA owes you NOTHING.

Sorry, but if I pony up my $$$ for an EA product I think I'm entitled to SOMETHING.

For example, I recently bought Dead Space but as a braindead console port I was unable to reconfigure the keys to my prefered layout (some genius at EA had decided to hardcode the numpad and arrow keys) forcing me to download a 3rd party utility just to make the game playable for me. Now are you seriously telling me that it's unreasonable of me to think that EA should *not* fix a basic blunder like this?

I don't want to see Bio be consumed by the EA juggernaut as it inevitably will be, but to be honest at least if it disappears we won't have to put up with Volo championing every decision/game they've ever made any more.

As I've said before, since selling out to EA they're one flop away from redundancy in the current environment...and I'm not even sure I'll miss them any more.

 

[MetalCraze]

In other news, EA has recently reported enormous financial losses for the fourth quarter of 2008.
See the connection between these two events?

I only see that they need to make more sequels. They started with three NFS games coming out this year

 

[Volourn]

"Sorry, but if I pony up my $$$ for an EA product I think I'm entitled to SOMETHING."

You get what you paid for. Period. They don't owe you loyalty, they don't owe you extras, they don't owe you shit. You pay $ for the game. Period.



"I don't want to see Bio be consumed by the EA juggernaut as it inevitably will be"

Huh? You *are* stupid. They're already consumed. BIO is just a division of EA now that's pretending to be a company. Not much different than BIS except was Interplay created, and BIo was simply bought like any product.


"but to be honest at least if it disappears we won't have to put up with Volo championing every decision/game they've ever made any more."

Why do you lie?

There's tons of things BIO has done that i disagree with, and I have voiced them. I just whine and cry about them. Just not that important.

If BIO no longer exists, I will literlaly not give a shit. I'll just buy my games from other companies like I have been doing.

R00fles!

 

[Konjad]

I give up my hope. Dragon Age is going to be shit.

 

[Worm King]

This is the reason I never follow the development/hype stage. The marketing department fools fans in to following their hype by stating that the game will be coming out in just a few months. As the date draws near the company switches to the unsurprising Christmas release. Don't bullshit me that the developers weren't aware that the release date would actually be at the end of the year months and months ago.

I remember an interview a few weeks before the release of Oblivion with Hines. He was asked if the game will be delayed and he stated that under no condition. Of course, almost the next week Oblivion got delayed for November.

 

[Lurkar]

Is anyone seriously surprised by this?

I mean fuck, people were calling this since Dragon Age was announced as a PC exclusive. There was never any fucking chance it would be REMOTELY how it was first described.

Edit: BUT I BET IT'S STILL THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO BALDUR'S GATE!!!

 

[Angthoron]

Is anyone seriously surprised by this?

I mean fuck, people were calling this since Dragon Age was announced as a PC exclusive. There was never any fucking chance it would be REMOTELY how it was first described.

Edit: BUT I BET IT'S STILL THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO BALDUR'S GATE!!!

I'm afraid it has to spiritually succeed something more multi-platform now.

 

[DemonKing]

"I don't want to see Bio be consumed by the EA juggernaut as it inevitably will be"

Huh? You *are* stupid. They're already consumed. BIO is just a division of EA now that's pretending to be a company. Not much different than BIS except was Interplay created, and BIo was simply bought like any product.

Did you even read my post nitwit - I specifically said that there was no difference between Bio or EA now in response to some other poster wondering whether Bio *or* EA was responsible for the delay.

By consumed I meant cease to exist even in name ala Westwood, Bullfrog, Origin etc

Sorry if that wasn't clear for your megabrain.

 

[Volourn]

You said you didn't want BIo to be consumed by EA... but, they already are. That makes you the nitwit.

 

[serch]

Volourn, there are things as bad bussines practices. Making an announcement to keep their PC customers happy, so they don't feel abandoned, and then backpedaling five years later is a misleading tactic and an inmoral one.

Normally this time would be employed to polish the game, but in this particular case, I think they need it to dumb the game down to EA levels.

 

[Solaris]

You make your bed, you gotta lie in it....

No sympathy for BW (or what was BW), if they were dumb enough not to shore up their independance years ago then this is what you get in the end....just rent-boys boys for EA.

 

[Volourn]

"Volourn, there are things as bad bussines practices. Making an announcement to keep their PC customers happy, so they don't feel abandoned, and then backpedaling five years later is a misleading tactic and an inmoral one."

What a fuckin' tool. Things change. You gotta change, and adapt. If you don't, you go out of business. Or you die. Just ask Troika.

The only immoral ones are the judgmental, selfish, pieces of crap who try to claim 'moral superiorty' over video games. LMAO


"No sympathy for BW (or what was BW), if they were dumb enough not to shore up their independance years ago then this is what you get in the end....just rent-boys boys for EA."

Another tool. It had nothing to do with being 'dumb'. BIO doesn't want to be independent - that why the owners sold the company willingly.

 

[obediah]

lol - No studio sells themselves to EA because they are tired of the tyranny of choice.

Either:

1) The owners want to get paid!
2) They can't afford to make the games they want.

That's it.

 

[doctor_kaz]

The anger at Bioware is somewhat misplaced. Microsoft is more responsible than anyone for the death of PC gaming. Companies like Bioware are largely just following where the money goes.

Interestingly, Microsoft's strategy of fucking over PC gamers has come back to haunt them somewhat, since Vista has tanked so badly that they are considering abondoning it as soon as next year. The fact that gamers have absolutely no reason to buy it certainly hasn't helped.

 

[Solaris]

Another tool. It had nothing to do with being 'dumb'. BIO doesn't want to be independent - that why the owners sold the company willingly.

Did they now??....maybe the real reason is their investors cornered them. So they had no choice in the end. But that again is down to their lack of foresight.

 

[aries202]

I seriously don't understand why some of you see this as a bad sign? I don't. I want polish, polish and polish. And the best game the devs. at Bioware can make. And apparently, there are still some major problems in the game; people in the game actually inflates when you talk to them...Not good!

And why shouldn't PS3, Xbox 360 owners and the PC gaming crowd get the game at the same time. People can then decice for themselves if they want the PS3 version, the Xbox 360 or the PC version of the game. I'm a PC gamer right now, but I simply can't afford anymore to keep up with the cost of upgrading my pc...

And my bet is a worldwide release date sometine late october or november 2009...

 

[A user named cat]

Finally, Riccitiello admitted that the rationale for delaying Dragon Age may sound a bit odd, but said, "Too much quality can make you reassess your options." The game was shaping up to be so epic in scale, quality, and innovation--according to Riccitiello--that EA thought it would make for a stronger launch to have the console versions of the game arrive at the same time as the PC edition. Additionally, the time would allow for extra polishing of the content.

LOL

 

[Volourn]

"Did they now??....maybe the real reason is their investors cornered them. "

Nonsense. BIO sold themselves by choice. Period. It was a privately owned company, and then were sold basically to the investors group in the combo eventually being sold FOR REALZ to EA.


BIO's owners/founders chose this route. Period.

 

[Zyrxil]

I seriously don't understand why some of you see this as a bad sign? I don't. I want polish, polish and polish. And the best game the devs. at Bioware can make. And apparently, there are still some major problems in the game; people in the game actually inflates when you talk to them...Not good!

What makes you think they'll keep adding polish when the PC version is finished? The team members will be moved off onto other projects while the finished game sits on some shelf waiting for the console versions to be finished.

And why shouldn't PS3, Xbox 360 owners and the PC gaming crowd get the game at the same time.

Why should I have to wait for them? They can decide fine even if the PC version came out first.

I'm a PC gamer right now, but I simply can't afford anymore to keep up with the cost of upgrading my pc...

That's the most ridiculously rehashed and debunked argument ever. Your PC does not magically degrade in power, requiring you to upgrade for every new game. The only situation in which every new game would require an upgrade is if you keep buying ultra-budget bare minimum requirement parts and wasting money.

 

[Shannow]

Water is wet, the sky is blue, BiowEAr lies.

Interestingly, Microsoft's strategy of fucking over PC gamers has come back to haunt them somewhat, since Vista has tanked so badly that they are considering abondoning it as soon as next year. The fact that gamers have absolutely no reason to buy it certainly hasn't helped.

Link?

 

[obediah]

The anger at Bioware is somewhat misplaced. Microsoft is more responsible than anyone for the death of PC gaming. Companies like Bioware are largely just following where the money goes.

How do you blame Microsoft more than anyone else?

EVERYONE is following the money. And for 20 years the money has been moving towards a larger, more casual market. Unless you start killing frat boys and blowing up Wal-Marts that isn't going to change soon ( unless gaming is a victim of GLOBAL ECONOMIC ZOMG CRISIS!111!11 ).

 

[doctor_kaz]

How do you blame Microsoft more than anyone else?

Because Microsoft has facilitated everything that has happened in the last 5-6 years with the XBox, going so far as to pay developers like Epic and Bioware to not make PC games, or at least delay them a long time. The original XBox was literally just a gimped gaming PC. It was designed to get developers to migrate away from the PC to make games for a closed platform, in effect, destroying PC gaming. That part of the strategy has worked perfectly.

 

[racofer]

Finally, Riccitiello admitted that the rationale for delaying Dragon Age may sound a bit odd, but said, "Too much quality can make you reassess your options." The game was shaping up to be so epic in scale, quality, and innovation--according to Riccitiello--that EA thought it would make for a stronger launch to have the console versions of the game arrive at the same time as the PC edition. Additionally, the time would allow for extra polishing of the content.

LOL

 

[serch]

What a fuckin' tool. Things change. You gotta change, and adapt. If you don't, you go out of business. Or you die. Just ask Troika.

And you are naive if you think they didn't do this on purpose; they didn't change; they didn't adapt; they lied since the very beginning to keep PC customers interested in their company, moron. You seem to hate pirates out of a pure moral base, don't you hate liars, hypocrate?

 

[aries202]

Basically, EA is saying that this is done for marketing reasons (if you read between the lines); simply because Bioware probably were aiming for a release around sept 2009; the console release were probably ariund dec 1st 2009... And since EA seems to be doing not so great these days; well it sort of makes sense to pull the marketing money together... and release for all three platforms at the same time...

As for my PC it has its 6th birtday sometime in August 2009 (the 25th, I think it is). I hope I can save enough money to buy a new videocard...

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Water is wet, the sky is blue, BiowEAr lies.

Interestingly, Microsoft's strategy of fucking over PC gamers has come back to haunt them somewhat, since Vista has tanked so badly that they are considering abondoning it as soon as next year. The fact that gamers have absolutely no reason to buy it certainly hasn't helped.

Link?

He probably means the release of Win 7.