Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[La vie sexuelle]

Byzantine colors hijacked.

Funny, Byzantium would make a great setting for an RPG. It definitely has better lore than Dragon Age.

 

[Space Satan]

Devs themselves said they based Tevinter on Byzantium...which means that elves are a closest local equivalent of mislims and solas is a pointy-eared mohammed

 

[Dayyālu]

Devs themselves said they based Tevinter on Byzantium...which means that elves are a closest local equivalent of mislims and solas is a pointy-eared mohammed

I played ages ago Dragon Age Origins and I liked the Tevinter idea, a magocracy holding with tooth and nail and blood and cruelty everything at bay with clear Byzantine influences was right up my alley.

Then some years later I randomly checked and apparently the new lore states that Tevinter stole everything from the Elves and the Elves genocided themselves and never lost a war against the humans that merely thought that they genocided the elves or something but again the humans are still at fault but they didn't create anything they merely stole from the Elvish kangz and it was too retarded to even fully comprehend.

Also, as a northern Italian this was bloody hilarious:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treviso

Can we call it out on racism? I mean, taking a real city with 90k people and putting it randomly in your fantasy setting because you can't even google search seems pretty racist to me, also they aren't Italian so it's even cultural appropriation

 

[Jorus]

Devs themselves said they based Tevinter on Byzantium...which means that elves are a closest local equivalent of mislims and solas is a pointy-eared mohammed

Pretty sure the muslim equivalent are the Qunari. I recall David Gayderino saying that elves are inspired by native americans and jews.

 

[NecroLord]

Qunari should've been left a mystery culture, first and foremost. Only known through various accounts, or you could read about them in books and have Sten tell you more about their culture, beliefs and so on...
As it stands, I find the Qunari to be rather dumb.

 

[Camel]

What’s left of BioWare fans are pessimistic on Youtube and Bsnboards are pretty much dead.

 

[Space Satan]

What’s left of BioWare fans are pessimistic on Youtube and Bsnboards are pretty much dead.

yeah, being pessimistic and depressed is not unusual for bioware target audience because hormone therapy is known to cause this shit

 

[moon knight]

I don't care about this game

 

[Delterius]

I don't care about this game

welcome to the thread looking forward to your next post

 

[9ted6]

Devs themselves said they based Tevinter on Byzantium...which means that elves are a closest local equivalent of mislims and solas is a pointy-eared mohammed

Then some years later I randomly checked and apparently the new lore states that Tevinter stole everything from the Elves and the Elves genocided themselves and never lost a war against the humans that merely thought that they genocided the elves or something but again the humans are still at fault but they didn't create anything they merely stole from the Elvish kangz and it was too retarded to even fully comprehend.

Anything that was even the least bit interesting about DA's world has been scrapped in favor of either elves doing everything or hey look gay people.

They pulled a similar retcon with the Qunari wars. Reading about it in DAO's codex sounded fucking cool. Hulking Qunari with cannons squaring up against united Chantry armies, so many combatants being slain that they could make a mountain out of them, both sides fighting tooth and nail and sacrificing brave soldiers only for the Chantry to win the day.

In Inquisition it was changed to the Chantry rolling into occupied Qunari lands and killing every civilian they found including chantry members to make the Qunari, who are now peaceloving educators, got very sad and left without a fight so the Chantry would stop murdering people. There was no war, no desperation, no mutual heroics, just the Chantry going psycho and the Qunari going pacifist.

They even threw in a Qunari magic weapon just so in the description they could specify its wielder was a female Qunari warrior, impossible by DAO's lore, and to say the knight who killed her claimed falsely that she'd bashed in the heads of his men. Female Qunari hippy with a decorative club claimed by the evil Chantry patriarchy.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I don't care about this game

Codexers may not care about this game in itself, but we can still find enjoyment in the prolonged demise of Bioware, which has done so much harm to CRPGs over the past quarter-century.

 

[Cyberarmy]

I am here for the drama

 

[Cael]

I don't care about this game

How dare you, you transphobic, racist, sexist, qunari-phobe alt-right fascist!!!!!

 

[mediocrepoet]

Byzantine colors hijacked.

Funny, Byzantium would make a great setting for an RPG. It definitely has better lore than Dragon Age.

So does Mario Kart. This isn't a high bar.

 

[Sacibengala]

BG3 won the only award that matters, people. Including the most depraved character award. Now is the time to show them who's the all time boss of degeneracy, Bioware. I know you can show them!

 

[NecroLord]

I don't care about this game

Codexers may not care about this game in itself, but we can still find enjoyment in the prolonged demise of Bioware, which has done so much harm to CRPGs over the past quarter-century.

I still don't understand your major beef with Baldur's Gate 1 and 2...

 

[mediocrepoet]

I don't care about this game

Codexers may not care about this game in itself, but we can still find enjoyment in the prolonged demise of Bioware, which has done so much harm to CRPGs over the past quarter-century.

I still don't understand your major beef with Baldur's Gate 1 and 2...

RTWP + D&D Purist... possibly other things. That'll get you on the right track though.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I still don't understand your major beef with Baldur's Gate 1 and 2...

• Execrable RTwP combat, copied from RTS popamole, that is far worse than either turn-based or real-time combat
• Poor exploration
• The worst D&D/AD&D campaign setting
• Companion romances

Bioware was decline from the start.

 

[NecroLord]

I still don't understand your major beef with Baldur's Gate 1 and 2...

• Execrable RTwP combat, copied from RTS popamole, that is far worse than either turn-based or real-time combat
• Poor exploration
• The worst D&D/AD&D campaign setting
• Companion romances

Bioware was decline from the start.

Greyhawk is one of the best settings and would've made for a better campaign, I agree, but I still think that's way too harsh.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Now a thought occurred to me - everyone is imitating Forgotten Realms, including Bioware. But why not Ravenloft?

 

[Alex]

(...) Solas fangirls rejoice(...)

So... Is this going to be a protestant game? And I thought BioWare couldn't go any lower...

 

[Delterius]

everyone is imitating Forgotten Realms

there are no other settings, yes

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Now a thought occurred to me - everyone is imitating Forgotten Realms, including Bioware. But why not Ravenloft?

the lotr movies and its consequences

 

[Louis_Cypher]

...which means that elves are a closest local equivalent of mislims

Isn't it blantently obvious that the Qunari are Mooslims?

Hello, we are the Qur'an Qunari.

Hello, we follow the Qur'an Qun.

Hello, we once conquered Sicily Seheron.

Hello, we once conquered the Riviera Rivain.

The fucking map of Thedas is just Europe upside down. Like 90% of fantasy maps are some form of Europe.

The analogy isn't even remotely subtle. Most nations have corresponding accents, as if it couldn't be any more on-the-nose. The Elves are meant to be some generic "oppressed" noble savage type group, as per Hollywood fetish for cannibals, headhunters, slave raiders, etc (at least they were meant to have once been worse imperialists than humans, so not quite the usual uncritical bs). Since Europe doesn't have any usual favorites like Native Americans, they went with Celts, giving them Welsh and Irish traveller asethetics. The Qun launch holy wars and convert people against their will, although they got toned down.

 

[The Jester]

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