Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Fargus]

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Hideous nigger elf, bordercrosser elf and massage parlor happy endings elf....

 

[Ryzer]

Some more gameplay footage:

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The level of these dialogues:
- "uhh, what do we do now? What do we do?"
- "Harning, How are you?"
Choice: " Are you okay?" or "You have plans"

This is like the most souless conversation I've ever heard.

 

[Ryzer]

At least DAO had funny lines to lighten the mood when you don't care about the plot.

 

[Pink Eye]

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It's the gameplay that bothers me the most. It looks so unimpactful. I've played shitty Dark Souls Like from some Polish fuck that was operating off a two dollar budget that produced tighter gameplay than whatever the fuck it is Vile Ass Guard Dragon is even trying.

 

[Fargus]

Dialogue wheel, the slopiest of slop mechanics aside from minigames and qte.

At least DAO had funny lines to lighten the mood when you don't care about the plot.

Older bioware games had rather cruel and in your face lines. Good games to play evil character or just an asshole.

 

[Zariusz]

Why is this shit still alive?

 

[Ryzer]

Why is this shit still alive?

Vladimir Vladimirovich in his extreme indulgence decided not to nuke Canada.

 

[BlackAdderBG]

Tactically DA:O relies on a aggro system which is inspired by MMO combat rather than having sets of AI behaviour written for different types of opponent.

There's no real line of engagement or need for much in the way of clever positioning on the player's part. Overall, I think the tactical aspects of the combat system are one of the more lacklustre elements of DA:O's design.

You absolutely need to position your party properly. There are tons of abilities and spells that need positioning and enemies that will fuck around that. For RTwP threat management system leads to better gameplay as you can manipulate it with actual roleplaying mechanics and not retarded kiting. It ain't anything amazing, but you need to give me some examples of RPGs with good enemy AI to claim it's lackluster. Origins has more complex AI than BG for example (even with SCS lol let me run directly for the most squishy character and pass thru 5 other because there is no AoO)

You draw aggro by casting spells at an enemy, by doing damage and by taunting, no?

Initial aggro is equipment based, which is lame as fuck.
Luckily, there are other things influencing it, some even sensible, so it's not all bad.

I *think* it was butchered completely in DA2. I remember enemies never switching targets based on dealt damage.

Armour type is way too meaningless (and non existent on higher difficulty) to matter.

 

[Goldschmidt]

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

Did NWN have faggotry? Cant remember.

 

[BrotherFrank]

 

[Fargus]

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

Did NWN have faggotry? Cant remember.

I think their first game with faggotry was Jade Empire

 

[Ryzer]

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

Did NWN have faggotry? Cant remember.

I think their first game with faggotry was Jade Empire

Fun fact:

Gay romance in BG2???? Come ON!​

23 Oct 2000, 09:00:00

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.games.baldurs-gate/c/IIaPcDxC7mU?pli=1

 

[Naraya]

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

Did NWN have faggotry? Cant remember.

I think their first game with faggotry was Jade Empire

Fun fact:

Gay romance in BG2???? Come ON!​

23 Oct 2000, 09:00:00

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.games.baldurs-gate/c/IIaPcDxC7mU?pli=1

Well... for some people homosexual relationships are the epitome of fantasy

 

[Just Locus]

It doesn't matter if:
-You have your female characters have realistic proportions
-You have your female characters have unrealistic proportions done for sex appeal
-You have your female characters display masculine characteristics
-You have your female characters be as unappealing as they can possibly be
-The roles you have your female characters have in the book/game/movie

You will be guilty of being against some group or some person or some abstract cultural identity and until you apologize to these lunatics and give in to their whims you will always be the evil one.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

1.00

"Dragon Age: Veilguard's charater creator is without doubt the most indepth character creator I have EWASEEN in video game".

Probably doesn’t see many video games.

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Arishock thinking: "what in the fuck am I looking at?"

The end of BioWare.

 

[Lodis]

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

Did NWN have faggotry? Cant remember.

I think their first game with faggotry was Jade Empire

KOTOR actually with Juhani. But nobody remembers because nobody plays as female Revan.

 

[La vie sexuelle]

Even if they've seen better they will give a blatant lie.

She added later "You can argue with me on twitter". She is paid to do this, methinks.

The characters playersexual guys.. they just don't have any preferences what so ever. It doesn't what's their background , personal desires and all of them are super into you and open to romance.. because they're pansexual.. just ignore that even pansexual or whaver people have their own preferences and won't date a fucking hobo in the street.

I hate what BG3 did for companions.. Now every game with them must have them all being romanceable despite being a negative towards what type of the story you can tell.

Can't have someone like Abelard , Samara , Durance or Boone because guess what , they need to be attractive and available.

Later in the video it was said, very vaguely, that the characters were not as playersexual as they were supposed to be. I assume that Bioware didn't have time to change it and now they are withdrawing from it a bit through paid shills.

Probably doesn’t see many video games.

Of course. She is game jurnalist. They now nothing about any topic.

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

Did NWN have faggotry? Cant remember.

Nympho lesbianism in Kingmaker:

From https://lgbtqgamearchive.com/2016/08/30/kaidala-in-neverwinter-nights-kingmaker:

Kaidala is an optional party member in Neverwinter Nights: Kingmaker, where she fights alongside the player providing support and healing. As a nymph, she has a strong connection to nature and the player character is able to romance her (regardless of their gender) in order to gain her trust. If they are successful in establishing a relationship with her, the grove that Kaidala oversees will be replanted. Some fans have referenced her as being a part of Bioware’s first female/female relationship (if the player character is female), due to her bisexual identity.

Also:

Neverwinter Nights: Kingmaker allows the player character to flirt with a variety of NPCs in an attempt to build relationships with them. While it is possible to flirt with an NPC of the same gender as your player character, you cannot progress beyond mutual flirtation.

 

[Semiurge]

"You can play rock, paper, scissors with a skeleton! So cute!"

The demons of the Fade are jealous of the world they sense from across the Veil. They constantly push against the boundaries of the Fade, and when they finally cross over, they attempt to possess the first living creature they see. They are unable, however, to distinguish that which was once living from that which still is... in fact, a corpse provides an even more tempting target to a weaker demon as it has no will with which to resist the possession. The demon cannot rationalize why this is so; it only sees a target and grasps at the opportunity.

A skeleton is exactly that: a corpse animated by a possessing demon. Upon finding itself trapped within a body that cannot sustain it, the demon is driven insane... it seeks to destroy any life that it encounters, attacking without thought to its own welfare.

The exact names given to skeletons of this type vary according to the nature of the demons that possesses it. A "fanged skeleton" is a skeleton possessed by a hunger demon. These skeletons devour whatever life they encounter and often possess the ability to drain life energy and mana from their victims. A "shambling skeleton" is a slower-moving skeleton possessed by a sloth demon, able to bring entropic powers against its opponents, slowing them and even putting them to sleep. More powerful demons have been known to command skeletons, but at that level they are known by other names: revenants and arcane horrors, to name two.

Veilguard:
Le reddit rock paper scissors skeleton

I am sure that a woman writer is responsible for this

RPS was heavily featured in Farscape, so optimistically, maybe that's the connection. Even Origins was riddled with anachronisms and Whedonisms, but it kept the tone darker so it didn't come across as too goofy.

Also it seems they are writing off Origins and 2, usually choices carried over through games but The Vileguard will only allow players to pick a few choices from only Inquisition. They are trying to do a soft reboot but are they really trying to sell this game to kids with top surgery scars and trans characters that they will be forced to interact with?

Well technically they have that M rating to use as a defence, but in reality of course those content ratings have no meaning beyond who actually buys the games, and even then it really only matters in brick 'n' mortar stores that still care to card buyers.

are they really trying to sell this game to kids with top surgery scars and trans characters that they will be forced to interact with?

Thank you. That's the thing that bothers me the most. They're pushing this harmful ideology bullshit on young, developing minds, confusing our youth's perception of masculinity/femininity, forcing them into the snares of big pharma that will happily mutilate them for money. It's evil what these developers are trying to do: forcing the normalization of it being okay to chop your balls off and for our boys to grow up as weak men unable to identify as proper men.

On top of this these neo-puritans are forcing the new ideal of how women should look: unattractive, ugly, androgynous, masculine.

Modern commies believe that life is faith, bad and good. The world is bad because it is shackled by an evil dominant ideology that shapes bad faith, which is why it must be replaced with a good one.

In other words, the natural division into two genders is a bad faith that they want to overcome by normalizing transgenderism, which uses zippertits and pronouns as props. However, they repel any criticism by shouting, ridiculing or pretending that it has always been this way. Do you remember Mizhena from Dragonspear? Then they said "what's the harm, it's only one character!" or "trannies have always been around"!. Now they will tell you that zippertits have always been there and will never go away.

Traditional values must be eroded before people will accept the social revolution. That's what's going on. That's why media, in part comprising of useful idiots, is trying to normalise abnormal sexual identities, to present cultural relativity as an ideal, and to politicise science to such a degree that using traditional reason to undo the validity of these new values becomes impossible. The left allying with islam and importing muslims is also a part of the plan, for when allowed to take root, islam will provide a suitable framework for a new marxist hierarchy whose power is absolute and unchallenged.

These troons are mostly just useful commie-adjacent idiots, but sometimes dangerous converts who've sold their souls to the red adversary.

Game fell off from top 100 on Steam again. It is simply not possible for any AAA game with the marketing spam of this calibre to fall off that quickly in 3 days when it is only a month away. Not to mention even in recent interviews that director I dont wnat name saying how much they focused on PC version and how this will be the best Dragon Age experience on PC. AAA titles usually stay in top 50 if they arent popular, top 10 if there is actual hype for them among casuals. It will be interesting to see how its going to turn out after release, I just want EA to pull the plug already and kill Bioware.

Also it seems they are writing off Origins and 2, usually choices carried over through games but The Vileguard will only allow players to pick a few choices from only Inquisition. They are trying to do a soft reboot but are they really trying to sell this game to kids with top surgery scars and trans characters that they will be forced to interact with?

Changing of the guard + they wrote themselves into a corner, of course they're trying to do a soft reboot
Can't wait to see this thing burn and crash.

Soft reboot is normal, its been 10 years and Dragon Age was never big to begin with. Even with Inquisition selling 12 million copies is just a result of lucking out on the release date, if they released it a few months later it would have been a huge failure. The thing I dont understand is making a live-service game aimed at a "modern audience"(kids that will spend their parents money blindly) and then turning it into singleplayer because of shifting trends while adding the most vile and gross things they can. These are the kind of people that cry about bigotry and hatred when accused of manipulating kids on the internet but now doing these things with games? Its not just Dragon Age either, I saw Sims having top surgery scars now too, I guess this director is moving inside EA doing the same things everywhere.

These devs are mostly the same who developed Inquisition, and that's as far as their DA expertise goes. There are none left at Bioware who worked on Origins or DA2. There's a stark shift of culture between Origins and DA2, and the later two. The first two are tremendously "problematic" from today's marxist perspective, and the later two are perfectly aligned with this dogma.

The team that came in after DA2 can be blamed for this drastic shift of tone in the franchise.

 

[Hedasd]

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

I dont remember anything beyond basic bisexual companions and brothel options in Origins along with a drag queen in second game. Inquisition on the other hand had one transgered character with horribly hamfisted dialogue that vilified the player character for simple questions(written by Patrick Weekes, who is now called Trick for some reason) and possibly the most stereotypical and shallow gay character they could have written. These constant "Dragon Age always was like this" posts on the internet are getting extremely annoying due to blatant lying to push their stupid ideologies.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

So apparently the choices from prior games that carry over are just:

Talk about lazy.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

And on a different note,

 

[Silverfish]

Some more gameplay footage:

For anyone wondering like I was: the gameplay starts at 22 minutes into the 23 minute video.

 

[Semiurge]

My bröthers, let me intröduce yöu tö the Advanced Race Theöry.
Canadian racial science have möved beyond such simple cöncepts as skin cölör.

Behöld!

Now a completely random example of the Advanced Race Theöry analysis. Let's say... ryzer.

Skin hue: Warm. Because he's anything but cool. Also "warm" or "warmie" is a slang for effeminate faggöt in my language, which makes it extra funny.
Skin tone: Probably rather dark, given the algerian dröp of blööd pumping in hearts of all french men.
Melanin: Paradoxiacally rather löw, despite his dark cömplexiön. It's a result of terminally önline black pill döömer life style.

Final judgement: Sickly gray lesser race.

Christ. Now we're at the very core of their expertise. I recognise the skin hue options from the time, not long ago, when I was searching for an official skin pigmentation chart online. That skin hue or 'undertone', as it's officially called, is the backbone of color analysis. It's constantly spoken about at reddit's makeup and beauty- related subforums and often the discussions derail into racial politics, because reddit and its far-left radicalism.

I wonder what's the source of "all races are pretty much just humans" sickness.

I *hope* it's just some westoid social justice nonsense.
Because the alternative is much scarier - burned out writers who don't understand the appeal of fantasy and genuine world building, or simply don't care.

It's both.

It's lazy writing, about real-world analogies masquerading as fantasy or scifi. It's also, to some degree, mandatory because of budget constraints and certain demands set for game content, like the romances. They'd want their romanceable party members to resemble humans to some degree. It's also easier to desigh a character creator around races that share a lot of common ground visually, and to also add the same politically mandated diversity within each race, like for example negroid or asian features for elves and qunari. And because they expect that a great deal of potential gamers will want to design a character that resembles themselves, down to the skin color and minor features.

Bunch of fucking pussies. Hiding behind their monitors in anonymity while supporting these grotesque perversions on the human body. Such cowards they are, facilitating a generation of children to fall victim to these abominable practices of chopping and skewering one's private parts; of being addicted to life changing medications that leave permanent changes on the human anatomy; of having a whole generation of depressed people who can't even identity their God given gender; on top of ruining attractive hot waifus in RPGs.

Then they get all bitchy when you challenge them on this shit. Fuck off man.

Aren't the mods of Steam forrums always affiliated with the respective game somehow? At the very least, they're affiliated with the game's overall ideology.

Some of the dialogue options others were showing were worse than soap opera.

They couldn't be more obvious.

This will become a wild ride once the full saturation of Veilguard's overt ideological message becomes known. Come halloween.

Some of the dialogue options others were showing were worse than soap opera.

With this degree of subtlety and natural writing, I can't wait to see how the mandatory troon representation is tackled in this game...

I'm certain Taash will be the token tranny party member, because "her" official pronouns are they/them.

Bioware probably got a lot of requests for a qunari troon party member because of that side character in Inquisition. Now they/them deliver.

Here we go with the whole "but the franchise has ALWAYS been x" and the "just ignore it" arguments that paid shills love using. And yes Bioware has always been known to include faggotry in their games past BG2, but there's a threshold and at this point even your average gamer is starting to get put off by the sheer amount of pozz. And now there's some bizarre attempt to normalize top surgery scars now.

"Culture-war tourist" is another common counter-argument. It could be born in that rancid neovaginal ooze-smelling bubble of theirs, or a cynical slur to be used against critics of the ideology. At any rate they want to make every normie think that the critics are nothing but pathetic incels, bigots, racists, what have you. They will use negatively loaded words to deflect criticism and to smear the reputations of anyone who fights back.

Some more gameplay footage:

I like the bruises. Will Veilguard represent relationships where either party gets a regular beating?

 

[La vie sexuelle]

And on a different note,

4:19

After being by two minutes in all trailers together, fictional character is diagnosed with ADHD and now it's her official personality.

Some more gameplay footage:

For anyone wondering like I was: the gameplay starts at 22 minutes into the 23 minute video.

Yeah and looks like shit.

Perhaps future of Bioware is in making 3D visual novels.