Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[AfterVirtue]

Even Moorcock has more nuance than any of this slop though.

More like "Even Sapkowski has more nuance than any of this slop though."

 

[Camel]

I didn't last long on the Steam forums.

 

[Pink Eye]

I didn't last long on the Steam forums.

Well don't get shy, post the deets! What post got the perma?

 

[Padzi]

Imagine this game will be someone's first RPG.
I feel sorry for the kids today.

 

[Camel]

Well don't get shy, post the deets! What post got the perma?

I made a thread about detransitioning a troon companion and making a detransition his good/best possible ending.

 

[Rieser]

I never go into the Steam forums but Camel made me curious and now I'm wondering if I should venture more often.

 

[AfterVirtue]

Whilst aggressively pushing moderates, centrists, into choosing sides if said moderates attempt to notice or speak up regarding their favorite media being clearly hijacked by activists who do not care about culture, entertainment, but to push a clear agenda.

What i can say is that left and right are, always were, also factions defined from 1) actual political situation (meaning, costituting against something real, as in "left" against reactionaries in the proper terms, those who wanted a pre-revolution situation). 2) around an idea, abstract enough to receive various and not necessary at all compatible versions of it, but with a definite opposite, "progress" "conservation", for instance. 3) most importantly, against a similar and opposite faction. When those faction take on a stable form, even anachronistic elements (like opposition to "reationaries" in the original sense, or to the "bourgoises values", like contemporary capitalism is equal to XIX-early XX capitalism) keep working as a glue that keeps it together, for as long as the form-faction holds.
And in it you can find, held together from the above, people that should rightly hate each other, like an economic liberal and a traditional christian on the "right" and an actualmarxist and a post-modern "cultural marxist" on the left.

In times like ours, of course, polarization make the above situation extreme. It is all more complex than this, of course, still...

I never go into the Steam forums but Camel made me curious and now I'm wondering if I should venture more often.

You must gather your party before venturing forth.

 

[Camel]

I never go into the Steam forums but Camel made me curious and now I'm wondering if I should venture more often.

Veilguard is quite hated there.

 

[HumanTotemPole]

I never go into the Steam forums but Camel made me curious and now I'm wondering if I should venture more often.

For the longest time they've been a marginal IQ sort of joint but latterly there's been an uptick in higher quality troll threads. Classic trolls trolling trolls stuff, not just puns like the above.

 

[Hedasd]

English isnt my first language, not even my second language but to me he sounds like he wants to say he hates the game for shitting on his creation and his original vision but trying too hard to be polite. Still finds a way to shove US elections in too as a negative thing, even though he left the country years ago and they wont have any effect on him.

 

[gongal]

English isnt my first language, not even my second language but to me he sounds like he wants to say he hates the game for shitting on his creation and his original vision but trying too hard to be polite. Still finds a way to shove US elections in too as a negative thing, even though he left the country years ago and they wont have any effect on him.

uhmm he literally sucks dicks in his spare time

 

[The Wall]

uhmm he literally sucks dicks in his spare time

 

[The Wall]

Fuck them. Anyone who hasn't made or been part of team that made anything worthwhile in past 10 years? In some cases 20+. Fuck off from serious discussion about quality RPGs and video games

Tim Cain, Josh Sawyer, Chris Avellone, Todd Howard and David GAYder. All of them and quite a few more. Fuck off, boomer cucks

 

[BrotherFrank]

 

[Naraya]

Wait, is it true? I was sure "Oof." was a doctored screenshot.

 

[The Wall]

Nothing stops them from making small scoped indie RPGs and then growing. Every year it gets in terms of programming, art, sound, financially etc. easier and easier. What they do? Slurp big corpo cock. Shut up and keep sucking until pension. Boomers

 

[The Wall]

Also: 10 years for this slop? A decade to shat this dragon sized shit. Give me back good games, with graphics from 2000-2012, innovative gameplay, great stories, characters, artstyle and with production of couple years to three or maybee four max. This current shit is ludicrous. Also an opportunity

 

[Elttharion]

Branka is the worst.

I got called bigot on Steam forums for writing how Ferelden(medieval not-England) is all-white or almost all-white as it should be. Wokes also call Branka bisexual not lesbian because she was married to Oghren.
The First Warden is black in Veilguard, so I assume Anderfels is as diverse as California now.

Anderfels is supposed to be fantasy Germany that half turned into a fucked up desert with black soil because of centuries of Darkspawn invasion, now its a regular desert with black and Indian people with German names. Also in Inquisition it wasnt just Ferelden that got culturally enriched for no reason, that was the first game with random black people everywhere including among elves.

fantasy Germany

black and Indian people with German names

So its just real life Germany then?

 

[Drowed]

How is women, blacks and gays having more rights a bad thing for western society?

Funny enough, I've seen more racism, bigotry, than ever before. All because of this huge push for DEI in entertainment media. The "progressives" of today have successfully undermined colored representation, women, and gays by portraying them in an unfair manner in media - read: ugly, badly characterized, forced, and awkwardly written. Whilst aggressively pushing moderates, centrists, into choosing sides if said moderates attempt to notice or speak up regarding their favorite media being clearly hijacked by activists who do not care about culture, entertainment, but to push a clear agenda.

This is the ironic and often overlooked aspect of social dynamics that many seem unable to grasp: extremism and, consequently, rampant polarization tend to reinforce the opposing stance. This is especially true today in an environment where communication has become increasingly decentralized. In the past, control over traditional media was often enough to steer public opinion. Confirmation bias works powerfully on the average person without critical awareness, making them gravitate toward the views they perceive as dominant within their social circles. It’s no accident that media control has historically been - and continues to be - used to create the illusion of a unified perspective.

But unless you’re living within China's firewall (and even there, it’s not foolproof), we now live in an era where ideas flow. You might control the top headlines, but you can’t police every YouTube video, every comment posted, every chat on Telegram, Discord, WhatsApp, or the countless online forums. Despite these efforts, opposing viewpoints slip through the cracks and disrupt any forced consensus. There’s a limit to how often people can be silenced or pushed out of spaces without feeling inclined to align with the other side. Contrary to what some believe, only the weak of mind and spirit are swayed by emotional appeals and ideological threats. Labeling every dissenting opinion as 'nazi' or calling every phrase a dog whistle for the 'true villain' isn’t persuasive. The first time, it might give people pause. The second time, it’s annoying. By the third time, the term loses its weight.

If every dissenter is called a 'nazi', the term becomes desensitized and eventually just means "person with a different opinion." Even more, you inadvertently encourage people to adopt such ideas. After all, if they’re being labeled this way for holding what they know to be a reasonable and sensible opinion, they’ll start wondering if the same mislabeling is happening to others too. "If I’m being called this, and I know I’m reasonable, maybe there are other reasonable people in this same group." And before you know it, it happens. This is the seed that fuels the rise of opposing extremist opinions. Ironically, in the extreme efforts to silence any mild dissent, people are pushed toward the exact opposite end of the spectrum. At first, it’s symbolic, since the divide is often created artificially, but real polarization soon follows. Push hard enough, and eventually, some people will fall.

As a result, we’re now seeing a surge in racist, sexist, and other prejudiced behaviors even more than before. I’m not from the US, but from an outsider’s perspective, or maybe precisely because of that, it’s clear to me that it was, in part, the American left that elected Trump in his first term. They effectively pushed out civil and honest discussions from public spaces, compelling many to take his side simply because the alternative felt worse. And it’s not just happening in the US either. I can’t say how social dynamics will evolve over the next few decades, but the past 10 years have been wild. At this point, nothing seems out of the realm of possibility, from the rise of authoritarian governments to the emergence of terrorist groups and even civil wars. A decade ago, I would’ve laughed at such predictions, assuming they were the territory of conspiracy theories. But society has consistently managed to disappoint me. At this point, I no longer know what’s plausible and what’s not.

 

[RepHope]

English isnt my first language, not even my second language but to me he sounds like he wants to say he hates the game for shitting on his creation and his original vision but trying too hard to be polite. Still finds a way to shove US elections in too as a negative thing, even though he left the country years ago and they wont have any effect on him.

Gainer was always a passive aggressive little bitch, no surprise to see that hasn’t changed.

 

[Camel]

Anderfels is supposed to be fantasy Germany that half turned into a fucked up desert with black soil because of centuries of Darkspawn invasion, now its a regular desert with black and Indian people with German names. Also in Inquisition it wasnt just Ferelden that got culturally enriched for no reason, that was the first game with random black people everywhere including among elves.

"Random black people' weren't everywhere in DA:O, sure there were some swarthy elves but all Fereldans were white.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Waiting for the inevitable, "If you don't like it don't buy it, we don't want your money" dev post.

 

[Sarkile]

Also: 10 years for this slop? A decade to shat this dragon sized shit. Give me back good games, with graphics from 2000-2012, innovative gameplay, great stories, characters, artstyle and with production of couple years to three or maybee four max. This current shit is ludicrous. Also an opportunity

The 10-year development Hell leads me to think this might still qualify as a flop, even if it initially sells adequately. I wish I knew how much they sunk into Troonguard in total.

 

[The Wall]

Sequels to Grand Theft Auto, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Dragon Age, all manners of less known IPs. All waiting 10+ years for a sequel. There is something deeply rotten with gaming industry, because this goes against all logic, reason and financial interest

 

[Necrensha]

Why does this thread have 30 additional pages every time I see it...
You guys love Bioware, it must be.