Dragon Age Dragon Age: The Veilguard Thread

[Xorazm]

Wow story in this game is so bonkers even resetera is posting sensible arguments that story of this game is bonkers.

Is there even enough of a story to be called bonkers? That's one of the head-scratchers, there's less of a narrative than a series of dangling threads that sometimes waft close to each other but just seem like everyone wrote in a corner and it got pasted together via various excuses.

You're an absolute nobody who gets put in charge for no reason after Varric eats shit. The first act is like an agonizingly drawn out start to a heist movie, only instead of getting experts to Save The World you're getting whoever somebody happens to know, including a sullen teengaer who is only there because her mom made her.

Get the team, head out to kill a god, but your crack assassin only stabs a little bit because, and they literally say this, "he was distracted."

So then you have a discussion about how everyone is distracted by their issues, and instead of firing everyone and getting people who can do their fucking job, you decide the only way forward is to be therapy leader. So therapy and unrelated filler quests make up, from what I can tell, the bulk of the actual game.

And then, because they haven't already ripped off enough from Mass Effect to fill their gaping void of ideas, they copy/paste the Suicide Mission for a finale.

As far as a narrative throughline goes, you're a retard who gets put in charge due to a shortage of retards, you collect retards like Down Syndrome Pokemon, head out on your mission where one of your tards completely tards it up, you teach them to be better tards, and then if you have any sense you kill them all including yourself before it's over, and let chaos take the world.

 

[Morgoth]

Yeah, I'm sure it did "almost exactly as Dragon's Dogma 2" with almost exactly one quarter of its concurrent players peak on Steam. Everything's fine and definitely, absolutely, indubitably not terrible.

You forgot console sales, you stupid fuck.

 

[Oberon]

I mean wasn't the series cooked already with Inquisition?

No, it was cooked with the sequel to Origins.

Series was cooked with Origins.

Origins was okay.

Okay at best. The average NWN Vault module was better than that grey uninspired slop.

 

[Yosharian]

> You're an absolute nobody who gets put in charge for no reason after Varric eats shit

Yeah I noticed that too, I could not understand at all why my character was in charge of anything

 

[scytheavatar]

are you aware the key words here are "in the UK"?
so we learnt that brits are retarded, wow, truly surprising

I'm assuming this shows that the game is doing well in the UK

If that's the case I can tell you that the reason that that is happening is because everyone is so fucking depressed in this country that they probably bought the game out of desperation that it might bring them a tiny bit of happiness

Expect the suicide rate to skyrocket shortly

Rebirth is a flop while DD2 is probably a disappointment to Capcom (the director ran to the studio who made the Will Smith zombie game which suggests he was de facto fired) . Selling the same as those 2 games is not something BioWare should be proud of, especially when Veilguard almost certainly is a much more expensive game to produce.

 

[Riddler]

If you wanna know what EA's expectations were read these statements by the CEO:

https://www.gamesradar.com/games/dr...ews-and-limited-competition-in-the-aaa-space/

"When we think about what we have with Veilguard right now, we have a storied studio in BioWare, we have a storied IP with Dragon Age, we have a team that took extra time to make sure the world was rich and the characters were interesting and the story was compelling," Wilson said.

"I think we're going into a market that has limited competition for this category of game, given some of the moves that have happened across the broader industry," he added, seemingly referencing the shift toward live-service that's happening across many AAA studios, EA included. "And so while I think it's too early to predict the outcome, the critical reviews have been incredibly strong. The team feels really energized by what they have delivered. And my sense is that, yes, it has breakout capabilities."

This is the quarterly investors call, not some bullshit PR piece, so it's likely what he actually thinks. It's obviously not the "breakout" they hoped for, but if they were aiming for that they were probably ready to accept the risk of it failing also.

Imagine what the game would be like if they didn't take "extra time" to improve the characters and story. Saying there's "limited competition for this category of game" means he didn't think they'd be competing with BG3 for players, which they absolutely are.

You look at this guy's background and he's another clueless non-gamer. Hired originally at EA because he was a jock and they were making sports games so needed someone who'd actually played sports.

Thats what investor calls are, bullshit PR, except its mostly aimed at the investors.

 

[Camel]

The ME fans are unhappy with the Garrus Vakarian reference in this shitshow.

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[BlackAdderBG]

are you aware the key words here are "in the UK"?
so we learnt that brits are retarded, wow, truly surprising

I'm assuming this shows that the game is doing well in the UK

If that's the case I can tell you that the reason that that is happening is because everyone is so fucking depressed in this country that they probably bought the game out of desperation that it might bring them a tiny bit of happiness

Expect the suicide rate to skyrocket shortly

Or Dragon's Dogma 2 and FF VII did terrible in UK, this is what weasel wording is. Let's just google it to see

 

[Fargus]

They think if they keep lying that this game wasn't a failure it will become reality. That's woketards for you.

 

[Oberon]

The incompetence of tranny devs is staggering

 

[BlackAdderBG]

It kind of was incline over the dumbed down trash that KOTOR, Jade Empire and Mass Effect were.

KotOR is an awful example. The pic you posted is of a player's build, not the total pool of powers available and moreover, Jedi aren't strictly mages. They have a specific pool of powers that are restricted by the lore itself and there's very little you can do to flesh it out without resorting to high levels of handwavium to explain away the new powers' absence in the rest of the franchise. Obsidian was in the same boat for the sequel and what new powers they did add were basically just new functions of powers that already existed, split off to be their own thing. Force Choke > Force Crush and so on.

Dragon Age had no such restrictions, being a generic fantasy setting that Bioware created the rules for. Compared to 2nd or 3rd edition, it's woefully lacking and there's no reason for that to be the case.

Is this the new spin off for "they didn't have the tech back then"? Bioware were held back by Star Wars IP and sudo D&D rules. Oh wait unless you are Jedi you don't even have any powers so that is not even a good point.The gameplay systems are pure decline on all fronts. I could have even included NWN to that list as that was another decline. Party size went from 6 with BG to at best 3 with KOTOR, JE and ME. Well at least they didn't do another game without party members like NWN I guess.

 

[Oberon]

What really baffles me about this game is the decision to get rid of party based tactics and turn your party members into immortal pets who barely do anything to affect the battles. The fuck is wrong with Bioware, they are like NASA forgetting how to go to the moon.

 

[Fargus]

The incompetence of tranny devs is staggering

We should be thankful nu-Bioware are neither liked nor competent or this game could have been a hit like Bears&Tentacles 3.

 

[Storyfag]

The fuck is wrong with Bioware, they are like NASA forgetting how to go to the moon.

Both are symptoms of the same disease. A cure seems to be in the works, however.

 

[Storyfag]

Obligatory:

And right on cue, Trump gets elected

 

[Child of Malkav]

gaping void

"Gaping void" huh? No pun intended?

 

[Gargaune]

Yeah, I'm sure it did "almost exactly as Dragon's Dogma 2" with almost exactly one quarter of its concurrent players peak on Steam. Everything's fine and definitely, absolutely, indubitably not terrible.

You forgot console sales, you stupid fuck.

Dragon's Dogma 2 was released for PlayStation 5, Windows, and Xbox Series X/S on March 22, 2024. The game received generally positive reviews from critics and sold 3 million units by May 2024.

And on the console front, Amazon UK already has DATV 21% off on PS5 and 17% off for the XBox.

See me after class.

 

[Morgoth]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

 

[Swen]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

When will that be?

 

[Morgoth]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

When will that be?

What do you even care? You got something to prove?

Is this still about hoping Bioware will be shut down? Keep dreaming.

 

[Child of Malkav]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

No DLC. We know that so far. And all projections and math done show that the game was a disaster.
And worse:
This guy

guy

beat you.
Your need of military grade hopium is understandable.

 

[Storyfag]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

When will that be?

2 more weeks. Trust Z scam.

 

[Lord_Potato]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

 

[Odoryuk]

We know nothing about real sales until EA announces it, you dumbfuck.

This whole thread is full of upset people, to be honest

 

[catfood]

The fuck is wrong with Bioware, they are like NASA forgetting how to go to the moon.

Both are symptoms of the same disease. A cure seems to be in the works, however.

The poppamolization has been going on for a very long time. Each game after BG 2 was more simplified than the one that came before. This trend will never end.