Dragon's Dogma II - "They’re masterworks, all – you can’t go wrong"

[Shrimp]

Pawns definitely learn from your behaviours but I'm not sure about teaching them 'cool tricks' as such, I've just seen stuff like Mages mounting enemies which is obviously behaviour copied from their masters

I think the 'cool tricks' from the original post(s) that DJOGamer PT is referring to was just shit like pawns toggling their lanterns on/off and learning to take advantage of elemental weaknesses in enemies. There was a decent amount of stuff going on behind the scenes but a lot of the common misunderstandings just come from people not really knowing anything about the pawns' inclinations (which were based on the player's actions) and pawns gradually learning more about enemies as you filled out the bestiary.

 

[Shrimp]

Speaking of the bestiary I really wonder if there's more to it in DD2 than just the pawn badges you get for killing large amounts of minibosses.
When I first started playing the game I felt like combat encounters lacked a lot of the 'TIS WEAK TO FIRE type chatter but as my playtime increased they at least did start commenting on elemental weaknesses. However they still don't offer any advice on how to actually fight the monsters like severing saurians' tails or removing the armour from cyclopes. Since there's no bestiary like in the first game it makes me wonder if the game still keeps track of these things in order to update the pool of voice lines the pawns can pull from during battle. There's a separate interface that shows how many times you've killed various enemies including the ones that don't award pawn badges, so that's definitely at least one metric they're tracking.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah I haven't heard anything other than elemental weaknesses being pointed out.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

Seriously how tf do you trigger the Spellbound quest? I feel like I got cheated out of this mother fucker.

 

[Yosharian]

Yeah I'm not really sold on pawns deviating from their original inclinations based on their master's behaviour tbh.

It just makes it way more complicated than it needs to be - I have to not only worry about how inclinations might affect gameplay but also how my actions might interfere with that? Fuck that shit

 

[Shrimp]

Seriously how tf do you trigger the Spellbound quest? I feel like I got cheated out of this mother fucker.

Spoiler

Try picking up the girl's grandparents and moving them far outside the house. That worked for me at least

 

[Fedora Master]

So has anyone tried just grabbing the magistrate and forcing him out of the prison?

 

[Sentinel]

No guarantee they'll read anything

They'll just use chatGPT to summarize it.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

So has anyone tried just grabbing the magistrate and forcing him out of the prison?

Why would you do that? He just follows you out the back. The guards never bothered to intervene.

 

[Shrimp]

So has anyone tried just grabbing the magistrate and forcing him out of the prison?

Why would you do that? He just follows you out the back. The guards never bothered to intervene.

If you don't know of a place to direct him to then he'll refuse to leave his prison cell. I guess it depends on the order you explored the city in.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

WOW WOW WOW! Apparently you can change your pawn's name. My hired warrior's name changed since I played last night. How tf they do that shit?

If you don't know of a place to direct him to then he'll refuse to leave his prison cell. I guess it depends on the order you explored the city in.

Well I knew that. It takes like 5 minutes to find that library to finish the quest. I assume Fed Master is just being a lazy bitch.

 

[Shrimp]

You probably just went offline or something like that. I noticed my hired pawns reverted to using their default monikers on Tuesday during the weekly Steam maintenance

 

[Saark]

I cannot believe that enemies don't scale up at all in NG+, is that true?

Yes, you'll basically kill the Medusa in the intro (or rather, get her to retreat) within seconds due to how much damage you do with just basic attacks, thanks to your stats. It's not really a big deal if you just grab a few low-level pawns and start playing a new vocation. But if you want an actual challenge, you kinda wanna get the damage and HP increase mods that are floating around.

 

[Yosharian]

I cannot believe that enemies don't scale up at all in NG+, is that true?

Yes, you'll basically kill the Medusa in the intro (or rather, get her to retreat) within seconds due to how much damage you do with just basic attacks, thanks to your stats. It's not really a big deal if you just grab a few low-level pawns and start playing a new vocation. But if you want an actual challenge, you kinda wanna get the damage and HP increase mods that are floating around.

Huh, weird

 

[Perkel]

NG+ seems to be more for completionist people rather than some sort of true NG+.
Now that i finished game i am leaning on to delete save and play alone with my pawn as challenge.

 

[Yosharian]

I feel like if there isn't increased challenge then I'd much rather just start a new game

 

[TheHeroOfTime]

Damn, that's some prestigious armor design.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

Ulrika is a great and honorable woman indeed. She's fit to be a queen. If it weren't for my thirst of whores and crazy women I'd bed her immediately.

NG+ seems to be more for completionist people rather than some sort of true NG+.
Now that i finished game i am leaning on to delete save and play alone with my pawn as challenge.

It sounds 100% pointless at this stage of the game's life. There doesn't seem to be any reason to not delete your save and try something completely new. And that's not a bad thing. Very few devs get NG+ right and it only makes sense in certain types of games.

 

[Reinhardt]

maybe ng+ is like hard mode in dd1? i.e. enemies deal much higher damage but only against your character?

 

[toro]

I'm watching Elajjaz doing end game with a Warrior and it's a complete mess.

 

[Carceri]

Speaking of the bestiary I really wonder if there's more to it in DD2 than just the pawn badges you get for killing large amounts of minibosses.
When I first started playing the game I felt like combat encounters lacked a lot of the 'TIS WEAK TO FIRE type chatter but as my playtime increased they at least did start commenting on elemental weaknesses. However they still don't offer any advice on how to actually fight the monsters like severing saurians' tails or removing the armour from cyclopes. Since there's no bestiary like in the first game it makes me wonder if the game still keeps track of these things in order to update the pool of voice lines the pawns can pull from during battle. There's a separate interface that shows how many times you've killed various enemies including the ones that don't award pawn badges, so that's definitely at least one metric they're tracking.

I do believe there's some hidden pawn knowledge to be obtained. I have noticed my own pawn saying something like "I understand now" when fighting monsters I haven't encountered before, like chimeras and drakes. They just don't seem to offer any advice to the player anymore.

 

[Filthy Sauce]

The unmoored world is the new game plus. It changes the world and makes the enemies stronger. It also turns the game into a rogue-like with a 12 day time limit.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

The unmoored world is the new game plus. It changes the world and makes the enemies stronger. It also turns the game into a rogue-like with a 12 day time limit.

Sounds interesting but it's unfortunate that it's finite. That's not an endgame.

 

[Yosharian]

I'm watching Elajjaz doing end game with a Warrior and it's a complete mess.

A mess in what way?

 

[Shrimp]

Spoiler

I've read really conflicting comments on the unmoored world. Some say it's time limited while others say you can get rid of the limit by saving some cities and doing a quest, but yet others say the limit persists even if you do the quest that halts the end of the world (or whatever goes on at that point in the story)
Either way I won't lie, it sounds like total ass. This game desperately needs some kind of post-game dungeon crawling adventure like BBI