Dragon's Dogma II - "They’re masterworks, all – you can’t go wrong"

[Clockwork Knight]

Yeah I'm not really sold on pawns deviating from their original inclinations based on their master's behaviour tbh.

It just makes it way more complicated than it needs to be - I have to not only worry about how inclinations might affect gameplay but also how my actions might interfere with that? Fuck that shit

You don't have to worry, the combat isn't complicated enough for it to matter. It's for "oh neat, this pawn did that" moments.

 

[d1r]

The unmoored world is the new game plus. It changes the world and makes the enemies stronger. It also turns the game into a rogue-like with a 12 day time limit.

Hey dude, spoiler that shit.

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

Yeah I'm not really sold on pawns deviating from their original inclinations based on their master's behaviour tbh.

It just makes it way more complicated than it needs to be - I have to not only worry about how inclinations might affect gameplay but also how my actions might interfere with that? Fuck that shit

You don't have to worry, the combat isn't complicated enough for it to matter. It's for "oh neat, this pawn did that" moments.

Okay, lettuce define complicated combat in a ARPG. You go first.

Actually I'll go first. Dark Souls 2 has the most complicated (complicated being a good thing) combat in a ARPG, followed by MHW. I have to use a two-hander class in DD before I can say it's up there.

 

[Renfri]

Warfarer is stupid class.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Okay, lettuce define complicated combat in a ARPG. You go first.

It means needing to worry about the inclination of your pawns to win battles. Most people don't even know how exactly this system works.

(complicated being a good thing)

Not necessarily. Not being able to control your party and complicated combat where you need to coordinate don't go well together.

 

[Crayll]

One complaint I have now - why is magick archer unlocked basically at the end of the game? It makes sense for something like Warfarer, but magick archer would be a good natural progression for my character and I'd like to have more time to play with it. I could run and pick it up early but I'd be skipping through a lot of new areas to do so.

 

[HoboForEternity]

Warfarer is stupid class.

Not if you use mods that lets you cycle through all skills

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

One complaint I have now - why is magick archer unlocked basically at the end of the game?

Because you would rape all the monsters and the whole game up it's ass within the first few hours.

Okay, lettuce define complicated combat in a ARPG. You go first.

It means needing to worry about the inclination of your pawns to win battles. Most people don't even know how exactly this system works.

(complicated being a good thing)

Not necessarily. Not being able to control your party and complicated combat where you need to coordinate don't go well together.

This game has some of the best party based AI out there. All those goofy video montages of pawns running off cliffs and shit paint a false picture. I've only had two pawns do something incredibly stupid that lead to their demise. The pawn AI overall is very impressive. I dare say best in it's class.

Now NPC followers are an entirely different story. They are simply broken. They don't keep up with you even if you're moving at a moderate pace, and they like to bug out and fall off the face of the planet.

 

[Renfri]

If you dont suicide with Martyr's Bolt when playing Magick Archer, you are doing it wrong btw.

 

[Dyet]

One complaint I have now - why is magick archer unlocked basically at the end of the game? It makes sense for something like Warfarer, but magick archer would be a good natural progression for my character and I'd like to have more time to play with it. I could run and pick it up early but I'd be skipping through a lot of new areas to do so.

Probably because it's the speshul, broken Arisen only vocation (again).

But yeah, it's pretty stupid.

 

[Renfri]

One complaint I have now - why is magick archer unlocked basically at the end of the game? It makes sense for something like Warfarer, but magick archer would be a good natural progression for my character and I'd like to have more time to play with it. I could run and pick it up early but I'd be skipping through a lot of new areas to do so.

Probably because it's the speshul, broken Arisen only vocation (again).

But yeah, it's pretty stupid.

Compromise: Magick Archer unlock earlier, but you don't get über bolt before very late.

 

[Fedora Master]

 

[Fedora Master]

Am I really supposed to shuffle around berries and twigs between four people constantly because of the FUCKING WEIGHT LIMIT? There has to be a better way.

 

[Perkel]

Am I really supposed to shuffle around berries and twigs between four people constantly because of the FUCKING WEIGHT LIMIT? There has to be a better way.

No fast travel, weight limit, hard classes as god ordained.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

why is magick archer unlocked basically at the end of the game?

You can go there pretty early actually...

You'll just get thoroughly fucked up the ass though...

 

[Perkel]

Probably because it's the speshul, broken Arisen only vocation (again).

Not really, ton of videos online with cheated damage etc. or complete endgame no life builds. Level apparently goes to 999 not just 99...

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

Am I really supposed to shuffle around berries and twigs between four people constantly because of the FUCKING WEIGHT LIMIT? There has to be a better way.

You could just not pick them up. But I'm talking to the same retard who was completely oblivious to which save she should load.

 

[Crayll]

why is magick archer unlocked basically at the end of the game?

You can go there pretty early actually...

You'll just get thoroughly fucked up the ass though...

Yeah, I just hoping to get to into Battahl and all those areas naturally for my first playthrough. Save the content skips for the next time through.

 

[toro]

I'm watching Elajjaz doing end game with a Warrior and it's a complete mess.

A mess in what way?

Warrior alpha strikes are basically wasted on regular mobs therefore it's better to use slashes which don't have a great damage output.

End game mobs have more HP and they are more aggresive therefore the packs of mobs were basically a slog for Elajjaz

Also he had some retarded pawns which needed constant caretaking. In any case he finished the game at lvl 62+ after 55 hours (or something like that).

edit: He also got the gay elf as his beloved I'm curious how gay H. P. Lovecraft's Cat really is

 

[toro]

Spoiler

I Accidentally found the fog area and found the lich boss thing and man this whole dungeon is great. The boss is great. When this game peaked, it's fucking peak.

spoiler that shit

 

[H. P. Lovecraft's Cat]

I'm not looking forward to Battahl. I despise barren desert wastelands.

 

[toro]

 

[Renfri]

After little over 60 hours game is finished, only one side quest I didn't manage to complete, and who knows if I missed some, prolly did. Game was many way improvement over first title, but main story was definitely worse, where as on first it was quite lowkey and suddenly got awesome, but here it never went from alright to anywhere. Even fight with the dragon was lamer without much lead up drama. I didn't kill Sphinx, because she just left so I missed that fight completely, also when she moved place she went straight to apparent last riddle and skipped some.

Pawns were fairly decent, I think they completely failed me only in Medusa fight and one thief camp where they just got rolled over, otherwise they performed well. Sometimes they were nice comic relief, other times quite often too. I think pawns often went on and on how they can show where to go, and after you told them no thanks, they would start again soon after. Sometimes they pointed out chests that were already looted. I once accidentally hired pawn warrior without weapon and went for drake fight, thanks random person.

First game was one of the best 5 euros I ever spent on video game. Dragon's Dogma 2 was decent, carried by fun combat, but even in there it clearly needs more variety and new bosses to spice up things. I wonder how many goblins, bandits and ogres I killed in this game, too many I think. Gigantic statue fight was kinda lame tbh. Some of the caves were really nice go through, finding secrets was always lovely, but I just wish map wasn't full of corridors, especially in first region. Performance in Vernwoth was big yikes, elsewhere game performed well. If I had not updated PC last year, I would have been fucked.

 

[Abu Antar]

How annoying is the Dragonsplague?

 

[Fedora Master]

Why are there random goblins in the capital?