Fallout 1 - most stupid game ever?

[TheDeveloperDude]

I have been playing Fallout 1.
I arrived in Shady Sands in the beginning.
There was a dog at the gates.
I could not talk to the dog.
I have never seen such a stupid game in my life.

 

[Arbiter]

Witcher 3 might be your thing then. There is a talking dog and cat in Heart of Stone expansion.

 

[AW8]

I'm limited to a single reaction per post. Can someone rate Arbiter's post "Doggy", please.

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

I could not talk to the dog.

Restart the game with the animal speech perk, then it will work.

 

[norolim]

Fallout: Original Sin

 

[Hobo Elf]

I've got bad news if dogs talk to you irl.

 

[Chuck Norris]

I thought this is about the plot twist at the end, where

Fallout 1 Spoiler

you explain to the Master that his mutants are infertile, but the fucking idiot acts shocked and kills himself. Does it really make sense that someone this meticulous didn't do his due diligence about something this important?

 

[Red Hexapus]

I've got a movie here for you dude, instead. Just remember to take some LSD before watching it.

 

[Tavar]

Thanks for sharing.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

I have been playing Fallout 1.
I arrived in Shady Sands in the beginning.
There was a dog at the gates.
I could not talk to the dog.
I have never seen such a stupid game in my life.

Only a select handful of dogs in the Fallout universe are capable of telepathic communication with humans.

Spoiler

Ahbhu and his owner, Harlan Ellison

 

[Lemming42]

I thought this is about the plot twist at the end, where

Fallout 1 Spoiler

you explain to the Master that his mutants are infertile, but the fucking idiot acts shocked and kills himself. Does it really make sense that someone this meticulous didn't do his due diligence about something this important?

It's sort of the elephant in the room when it comes to Fallout, people (rightly) mock the awful confrontation with the computer president in Fo3 for the "this is wrong" "you're right, i'm going to kill myself" speech check solution, but it's just a distilled version of the ending to Fo1 (albeit far, far more shit and less fitting to the story). Fo1 gets away with it because the confrontation with the Master, and the preceding trip through the Cathedral, is so unbelievably captivating and harrowing and such a triumph from an art and sound design perspective that it sort of glosses over how dumb the actual content of the conversation is.

It works if you see the conversation as an abstraction, sort of a representation of the dialogue that's meant to be taking place. You can see the outline of what's meant to be happening (the Master realises that the unviability of the Unity means that all the severe moral compromises he convinced himself to make were all for nothing, and the guilt that in reality he's little more than a mass murderer hits him like a freight train), and thematically it works perfectly. but it's not conveyed very well on screen, especially given the player character's rather brief and dispassionate responses. Though it's even further undermined by the fact that he can be on the brink of suicide and then apparently forget all about it if you say "nah i reckon it'll work, just try it on me", resulting in the standard "bad ending" FMV where he happily orders Unity soldiers to slaughter Vault 13.

Still far better than the equivalent part in Fo2 where you talk to some random guy you've never seen or heard of before at great length in a deeply boring and railroaded conversation before he agrees to blow himself and the entire oil rig up for you because you said "have you considered that it'd be mean to kill me?".

 

[0sacred]

shut up, talking people into committing seppuku is the most entertaining thing

 

[Kedar]

I've got bad news if dogs talk to you irl.

They don't to you????

 

[Arbiter]

I've got bad news if dogs talk to you irl.

They don't to you????

They howl "warm tear".

 

[vota DC]

I thought this is about the plot twist at the end, where

Fallout 1 Spoiler

you explain to the Master that his mutants are infertile, but the fucking idiot acts shocked and kills himself. Does it really make sense that someone this meticulous didn't do his due diligence about something this important?

The fev didn't cause mutants being sterile at the beginning, It does later. It Is like the tranny frogs of Jurassic Park that messed in the opposite sense.

 

[Vic]

there is a dog companion in junktown if you wear a leather jacket or give him jerky.

 

[Grim Monk]

Op failed a "perception check" because the flaws start far earlier then Shady Sands.
Players are brutally confronted with a harsh reality right outside the very door of Vault 13.

Codexers of yore have often pointed out the Fallout 1 devs utter failure to simulate the initiation of "Rat Diplomacy".


Presenting the classic mockup how it should worked in A REAL CRPG!

 

[Maxie]

an embarassing oversight

 

[0sacred]

Charisma score figuring into rock-paper-scissors combat, Originial Sin style.

 

[Zlaja]

shut up, talking people into committing seppuku is the most entertaining thing

I prefered how you can convince Lanius into retreating in New Vegas, because it came off less goofy than those confrontations that can end with a suicide.

 

[Serious_Business]

Once in my base existence I wish that, when I come back from a hard day in a cold world, to what is considered my home, a small dog would welcome me with affectionate energy, its eyes telling me that my presence was desired and an object of longing ; and so I could swiftly and repeatedly kick it in order to relieve my tensions, and cause me some amount joy in the process. I do not think a man is asking too much when demanding such a thing out of life.