Fallout 76 - online Fallout spinoff from Bethesda - now on Steam with Wastelanders NPC expansion

[gruntar]

The Balrog must be stopped. If this shit sells better than New Vegas then we’ll never have another Fallout RPG. It’s an existential threat for the franchise in a way that even 3 and 4 weren’t.

I was shocked to find out that teaser for this game has already more views after two weeks than teaser for Cyberpunk 77 after five years. All hope is lost at this point.

 

[Okagron]

Remember The Glow in Fallout 1, how haunting and desolate it is, a representantion of how destructive nukes are? How big of a deal Ulysses wanting to launch a nuke was?

Fuck that, just throw nukes at your friends in Fallout 76, because it's "fun".

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

Remember The Glow in Fallout 1, on how haunting and desolate it is, a representantion of how destructive nukes are? How big of a deal Ulysses wanting to launch a nuke was?

Fuck that, just throw nukes at your friends in Fallout 76, because it's fun.

It already started in Fallout 3 when the portable nuke launcher was introduced. During the game you also fire an ICBM without there being consequences, and make a satellite armed with mini nukes fire (not talking about the satellite in Broken Steel) with the result being some small explosions around the satellite station after which you can pick up some of the nuclear mini nukes.

In Mothership Zeta the aliens fire their deathray at Earth in order to intimidate you and it seems to hit quite an area but when you return to the Capital Wasteland nothing is affected.

Nuclear weapons are now for lulz.

 

[Squid]

In Mothership Zeta the aliens fire their deathray at Earth in order to intimidate you and it seems to hit quite an area but when you return to the Capital Wasteland nothing is affected.

Why did you have to mention that DLC lol. I hated it so much. I didn't like the way it played, I didn't like the deathray, and I really didn't like that aliens were now the cause of the Great War. They took away the darkness of mankind fighting over resources and made it, "welp the guy who hit the shiny red button was brainwashed by aliens cuz aliens don't like us much I guess." That alone undermines so much of the setting to me.

 

[Okagron]

Why did you have to mention that DLC lol. I hated it so much. I didn't like the way it played, I didn't like the deathray, and I really didn't like that aliens were now the cause of the Great War. They took away the darkness of mankind fighting over resources and made it, "welp the guy who hit the shiny red button was brainwashed by aliens cuz aliens don't like us much I guess." That alone undermines so much of the setting to me.

It's easily one of the worst expansion DLCs ever made to me. Besides being boring as shit, it just rapes the lore of the franchise even harder than the main game.

 

[Cael]

Well, if Bethesda is smart, they will give Shillarytron a copy and then all you will be able to post is how good F76 is or be given tags and downvotes constantly.

 

[Cael]

How much time it will take for some troll to nuke the starting area?

Better to mine the crap out of it. Respawn, BOOM!, respawn, BOOM!, respawn...

I was thinking about a fallout radiation killing nu scrubs.

Won't likely matter. A griefer in a FPS won't give newbies the chance to get radiation problems before killing them while flaming and trolling them.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[whydoibother]

I see this "online" in the title of the thread, but not much actual facts confirming this to be an online centered game. Won't it just have some optional online feature, a bit like the Dark Souls invasions? If it was online at its core they would've mentioned it more.

 

[Turjan]

I see this "online" in the title of the thread, but not much actual facts confirming this to be an online centered game. Won't it just have some optional online feature, a bit like the Dark Souls invasions? If it was online at its core they would've mentioned it more.

You think Todd Howard declaring that this is an online only game is not enough? Or him saying that this was born from the planned mulitplayer feature for Fallout 4? Or talking about their dedicated servers to keep the game alive for years to come? Which somehow implies it will die with those servers.

 

[Squid]

What? They have. It's online only. You can play alone if you want but you're still online. This is a service game dude, not a singleplayer experience. It will have cosmetic microtransactions to try to keep the money flow coming too.
They have mentioned it plenty, everyone's talking about it plenty of whether they don't mind or they hate it.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

In Mothership Zeta the aliens fire their deathray at Earth in order to intimidate you and it seems to hit quite an area but when you return to the Capital Wasteland nothing is affected.

Why did you have to mention that DLC lol. I hated it so much. I didn't like the way it played, I didn't like the deathray, and I really didn't like that aliens were now the cause of the Great War. They took away the darkness of mankind fighting over resources and made it, "welp the guy who hit the shiny red button was brainwashed by aliens cuz aliens don't like us much I guess." That alone undermines so much of the setting to me.

Oh I fully understand you regarding Mothership Zeta, I also do not consider it canon and not just because of the death ray and the retcon regarding what the real cause of the great war was.
Well I consider nothing of Fallout 3, 4, or Fallout 76 canon, but if there is any explanation for MZ then it would be that the protagonist of FO3 was high on various drugs or the scenario took place in the character's mind as he/she lay dying from radiation in the water purifier.

But what I meant with mentioning this, Bethesda has been playing nuclear weapons or WMDs for laughs already with Fallout 3 because they treat the setting as a lulzy playground in which every stupid shit is possible because as Hiney... I mean Hines already mentioned; there are talking mutants.

 

[Shoggot]

I see this "online" in the title of the thread, but not much actual facts confirming this to be an online centered game. Won't it just have some optional online feature, a bit like the Dark Souls invasions? If it was online at its core they would've mentioned it more.

You mean except the fact that they themselves stated that there are no NPCs (only living players), that the game IS ONLINE, that it is about playing with other people et cetera et cetera?

Are you dense or something?

 

[whydoibother]

I am going through the stuff again right now, I guess they did say that and I just didn't register any of it. Feed me more retarded tags.

 

[Cael]

The way this thing is turning out, it is going to have as much to do with Fallout as the HBS game has to do with Battletech. In fact, this might be more Fallout-like than whatever Bethesduh comes up with:

 

[Fedora Master]

That's the worst thing I've seen this week. THANKS.

 

[taxalot]

Games where you need to be online to play in single player are the future. Hate it. Loathe it. It's still a thing publishers are going to push more and more.

I am certain Elder Scrolls 6 will also be that way. Expect all future Bioware games to be like that too. And from there, it will spread to everything that is not an indie game.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Squid]

I am certain Elder Scrolls 6 will also be that way. Expect all future Bioware games to be like that too. And from there, it will spread to everything that is not an indie game.

Until they hit enough backlash and they will retreat for a few years and try to slowly work their way there again. Same thing with the lootboxes, so many companies were like, "Haha yes praise us we have no lootboxes!" Just because of the Battlefront 2 controversy. But they'll be back, everyone will try to shove them into games again.

 

[Jarmaro]

Directly ripped off from reddit post:


Complete notes from the Noclip documentary. (MASSIVE Fallout 76 info dump)

-----General-----

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  [*]BGS Austin are the main guys behind this game. The Maryland (Rockville) studio is involved, but they have been putting in tons of work into Starfield as well, and 76 is mostly Austin's baby after the initial design phase. They started working on 76 when they were still Battlecry studios, and began development during a time when Rockville was still working on Fallout 4 (and later beginning production on Fallout 4 DLC and Starfield). Rockvill's role is largely creative.
  
  
  [*]The two Fallout 76 leads worked on Star Wars Galaxies, The Old Republic, and Ultima Online between them both. The lead programmer for 76 was the client lead for SWG. They're experts when it comes to building multiplayer, and painstakingly rebuilt the engine from the ground up to support multiplayer.
  
  
  [*]BGS Austin was absolutely crucial in the development of this game. Rockville doesn't have the experience required to pull something like this off because they are a singleplayer-focused studio.
  
  
  [*]From the beginning, the map was planned to be four times bigger than Fallout 4. This is in part due to new tech that enabled them to render longer distances; they wanted lots of open space to explore.
  
  
  [*]West Virginia was chosen because A) it was still East Coast, and B) it was a place that would be almost completely untouched by nukes. This would give them the opportunity to have living forests, tons of different types of wildlife, and more diversity than normal when it comes to different regions on the map.
  
  
  [*]It was also chosen because as they dug deeper into local stories and folklore of West Virginia, they found out there were so many cool conspiracy theories, monsters, and creatures that have been part of the state's history. They felt this was a perfect match for Fallout 76. The Grafton Monster, Flatwood Monster, the Snallygaster, Mothman -- the list goes on.
  
  
  [*]The Mothman specifically is a unique creature that they don't want to spoil other than saying there will be stages to him. "Maybe at the beginning, he's just stalking you". Creepy!
  
  
  [*]There are way more creatures in 76 than all other Fallout games. Giant sloths, two-headed possums, and intelligent plants were all mentioned.
  
  
  [*]The mutated creatures are more dramatic because it's so soon after the bombs fell, and the radiation is at its most powerful. They like to think that not all of these creatures were able to survive into the time period when the other Fallout games are set.
  
  
  [*]Raiders are out. The important reason for this is that they found with raiders, players would spend a lot of time just trying to discern whether or not a hostile human was a player or AI. They didn't want this, so they created a faction of half-feral ghouls called the Scorched, who are hostile, but still sane enough to use weapons and armor. These will be the main gun combat with AI in the game, which is described as a "central pillar" of the Fallout experience.
  
  
  [*]The map is huge, but there are six distinct regions to the game that are each a different difficulty/level, for a natural progression. "They mentioned: A hollowed-out mountain top, soggy floodlands, a festering toxic wasteland, swampy woods, and a colossal mountain range that bisects the entire map."
  
  
  [*]The new weather system can encourage or deter you from entering a specific area. Maybe you want to head to the mountains, but a major rad storm is sweeping through the area right now, making it much more dangerous to do so.
  
  
  [*]There is a lot of open space in this map. This means that when you find something, they want it to feel like you're finding something that's been hidden from the world for a long time. There are tons of different places to find. Some of the ones they mentioned were everything from quiet cabins, abandoned wood mills, treetop watchtowers, flooded mines, and abandoned barbecue joints.
  
  
  [*]^This is IN ADDITION to the fact that you will find whole abandoned cities and towns like previous Fallout games. There are also the missile silos, and a crashed space station (Van Buren!).
  
  
  [*]The world is larger and more detailed than any previous game. This is due to massive engine improvements. New systems for propagating forests, a vastly improved dynamic lighting model, subsurface scattering, and far more complex animations for creatures (who need to react to being attacked by multiple players at once).
  
  
  [*]You'll start the game in a relatively nice, green area. Another more hostile area they showed is a region full of factories that's covered in a nasty white power, from the chemicals that the factories were full of being released.
  
  
  [*]Lots of vertical landmarks. The giant excavator shown in the trailer was here. They let you orient yourself easily. More verticality than previous games, since Fallout 3 and 4 were both very flat lands.
  
  
  [*]They have their version of the Greenbrier Hotel, which housed a real-life nuclear bunker. Their version has a large golf course connected to it, and has its own story which they don't want to spoil.
  
  
  [*]More clothing than ever, and you have to discover a lot of it in specific spot. An example they give is that there's a real-life town called Helvetia, which is home to a festival where they make paper mache masks. They made ten of them for you to find when you visit the town in Fallout 76.
  
  
  [*]A lot of stories and quests you'll find will be the locational stories that we see as unmarked quests in previous Fallout games. An example given is a firehouse in Charleston, and if you go there you can find firefighter gear, and take a firefighter training course. They want you to explore and discover these things yourself with your friends.

-----Gameplay-----

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  [*]You can play solo, but at launch there will be no private maps. They fully believe in the idea of sharing a world with other players for Fallout 76.
  
  
  [*]There is a main story, there are plenty of quests, but they want this game to be about what you want to do on any given day. Maybe you want to explore a new region, or maybe you want to go hunt down that last rare component for a crafting project. Maybe you want to kill a creature for its drops, or maybe you want to set up a new C.A.M.P.
  
  
  [*]Events! An example given was a horde of super mutants attacking a farm. You get notified and can swoop in to save the day, and they want you to meet other players doing the same thing. You don't know what's going to happen, and they're okay with that. An example given was "maybe you see ten Yao Guai come in because somebody trained them in from across the map". Animal Friend, ahoy!
  
  
  [*]In addition to the C.A.M.P.s you can build anywhere, there are also public workshops that must be claimed. These are specific locations that you have to clear out, and once you take them there could be events that spawn. But they can also contain useful crafting resources: An example is a mine that, once claimed, allows you to get a regular income of lead ore. Lead = bullets. Being able to make your own bullets is very valuable in Fallout, and potentially to other players.
  
  
  [*]Your C.A.M.P is your portable, build-anywhere settlement. They're smaller than a full settlement, but can be placed anywhere on the map. If you join a new game, your C.A.M.P will automatically be where you left it. If by some miracle two people have their camps in the exact same spot (they stress this is very unlikely due to a player limit of 20-30 and an enormous map), it will be saved as a blueprint and you can put it down anywhere you want.
  
  
  [*]Crafting is a big part of the game. You'll be able to craft guns, mods, ammo, food, armor, power armor, etc. Everything that you could craft in Fallout 4, and way more. They want you hunting down rare materials to craft that next big item.
  
  
  [*]Talking about how they want survival elements to be a big part of the game, but never tedious or boring: "I have to brush my teeth every day, or they'll rot out of my head. I do NOT want to do that in a video game. I just don't care!"
  
  
  [*]You have to eat and drink to survive. Anecdote: Somebody stumbled into a heard of cats and said they'd never been happier to see cats because it meant they could eat!
  
  
  [*]Food rots over time, and your gear degrades and must be repaired.
  
  
  [*]Rads are different, and cause mutations. The higher your rad count, the greater the odds that you'll get a mutation. They're like traits from Fallout 2, where you get a buff to one thing, and a penalty to something else. They can be cured if you don't like them, and in the late-game you can become permanently mutated if there's one you really like. Most mutations are stat or gameplay changes, but some are visual.
  
  
  [*]You will be able to sell items you craft to other players. Crafting is a big part of the game and they want crafting specialization to be worthwhile and powerful. You can spec into cooking and make valuable food that other players might be willing to pay for.
  
  
  [*]Perk cards completely replace the perk chart from Fallout 4. Every single time you level up, you take a new perk card. Perk cards are divided among the primary SPECIAL attributes, and you can have a limited number active at one time. You can swap your active cards out whenever you want, and can share them with other players in your group. This incentivizes coordination in groups, where you can specialize to work well when grouped up.
  
  
  [*]One person in your group might be focused on survival stuff like crafting and cooking, somebody might be geared up for combat, another might be specced into building great defenses for your settlement, and the last might be built as a medic to heal other players up.
  
  
  [*]For crafting food, you find recipes all over the world to unlock new stuff to make. There are "orders of magnitude" more recipes in 76 than Fallout 4, and a lot of the items you craft are +/-. One food might make you more susceptible to disease, but give you a huge health buff.
  
  
  [*]They are exploring the idea of letting you set up a robot vendor in some kind of a hub area, so you can sell items to other players who visit the hub. This is not confirmed, they're still exploring it, but he reiterates that it's a live game and that they're thinking long-term.
  
  
  [*]There are anti-griefing measures in place, they don't want the game to be too chaotic. Aggressive players will get a wanted level, and the penalty for death is only respawning at a nearby location.
  
  
  [*]There are different ways to communicate with other players, including voice chat, an emote wheel, and even a photo mode that came out of a game jam.
  
  
  [*]They want to know when to control the player, but more importantly, when NOT to control the player. They want this to feel like a Fallout game. The other players in the game world a system they do not control, and they will not shy away from it. They embrace it. They said when players collide it might be messy for a bit, but they have levers in place to solve problems. They'd rather do that than play it safe. They want to try this, they can make adjustments later if they want to.
  
  
  [*]24-32 players at once. It was a challenge deciding on how many players would be in the game, and how frequently they wanted players to bump into each other. They want meeting another player to feel special, so they didn't want it to be too frequent.
  
  
  [*]Players will be visible on the map at all times, in their words, for good or ill. They want you to be able to see other players doing an event or a quest, and then go along to help them, or maybe even to attack them (though again, there are anti-griefing measures in place that they will tune as the game goes on).
  
  
  [*]You can trade with other players that you meet.
  
  
  [*]You can immediately join your friends in their session or invite them to yours.
  
  
  [*]Party size is currently 4, though that is easily adjustable. They're aiming for 4-person co-op gameplay, but they also want to have bigger conflicts like 12v12 deathmatch.
  
  
  [*]They're always adding more content to the game. Right now they're working on the aforementioned team deathmatch mode for players who may complete every quest and want something to do.
  
  
  [*]Nukes nukes nukes. Nukes are endgame content that require you to play through the game's story and complete repeatable quests to find the launch codes. The story there is that the Scorchbeasts (the giant bats) are crawling up out of the ground, and you can seal the fissures with nuclear strikes. They're hard to access and will not be used constantly by tons of players.
  
  
  [*]Nukes are NOT A GRIEFING DEVICE. Their function is to create high-level areas wherever you want on the map, and you are actively incentivized to do this in non-populated areas, because you want to be the first one in there to plunder them. If you stay too long, you die!
  
  
  [*]The Legendary item system returns, and places you nuke are excellent places to farm legendary items. Eventually, the nuked area will return to its pre-nuke state. Depending on where you nuke, you'll find different things inhabiting the area, because areas have different flora and fauna.
  
  
  [*]You can nuke other players. Todd is very excited to see what people do with the nukes, because they just don't know what's going to happen.
  
  
  [*]If your settlement is nuked, you can easily repair the damage. Again, nukes are NOT A GRIEFING DEVICE.

-----Post-Launch-----

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  [*]After Fallout 76 releases, the Rockville studio will remain creative leads, but most of their work is going toward Starfield, along with their Montreal studio. Austin will be in charge of supporting the game for years to come.
  
  
  [*]Microtransactions are a thing. This is acknowledged as an unfortunate reality of supporting both dedicated servers and free post-launch content for everybody. They are purely cosmetic. Anything you can purchase with microtransactions will also be able to be obtained for free by playing the game.
  
  
  [*]All DLC/updates will be free.
  
  
  [*]The plan is for part of the Austin team to be working on regular content updates, and the other part of the team working on larger content drops. So you get frequent, smaller updates (new events, free items were some examples), and then major content updates every so often. That is the plan, and they will have to make adjustments based on what players like and don't like.
  
  
  [*]If they make something they really like and the players don't, they will not double down on it. Instead, they'll embrace the stuff that players do like.

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

 

[PanteraNera]

 

[Infinitron]

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[Dawkinsfan69]

Dafuq's up with all those dumbass stickers on his laptop?/??//