Final Fantasy VII Rebirth - now on PC

[911 Jumper]

March 2024
Final Fantasy VII Rebirth’s Seamless and Diverse World Wouldn’t Have Been Possible Without PS5 Exclusivity

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth wouldn't have been the game it is if it wasn't a PlayStation 5 console exclusive, according to Yoshinori Kitase.

Speaking with the Washington Post, the Final Fantasy series producer stated that much of the game's acclaim is thanks to its seamless world, which wouldn't have been possible without PlayStation 5 console exclusivity. Not having to worry about developing multiple game versions allowed the team to focus on building a seamless, densely populated world with diverse geography. Without exclusivity to a single platform, Kitase-san continued, the game design would have regressed, and the world wouldn't have been seamless. That is an interesting statement for sure, considering multiplatform games like The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt, which also served as one of the major inspirations for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth, do come with the same features seen in the second installment of the trilogy.

December 2024

 

[ADL]

 

[Yuggoth]

Square riding the "how do you do, fellow PC gamers" train after the shenanigans they pulled over the last few years, is a sight to behold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQnT3tADKw

 

[Taxnomore]

yeah but Denuvo ?

 

[Assisted Living Godzilla]

Square riding the "how do you do, fellow PC gamers" train after the shenanigans they pulled over the last few years, is a sight to behold:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kQnT3tADKw

There is something funny about a “How Do You Do, Fellow Kids” post that can’t properly put a link in.

Also, what shenanigans? They were doing PlayStation exclusives because Sony was paying them. It worked for them during the PS4 era, not so much with the PS5. Now it sounds like they’re not doing it anymore, that’s business.

 

[ADL]

yeah but Denuvo ?

Don't think so. It's not listed and Remake didn't have it, which is weird because 16 did.

 

[Yuggoth]

There is something funny about a “How Do You Do, Fellow Kids” post that can’t properly put a link in.

Yes, literally my first post in the forum, where the embedding works differently than the other SMF/phpBB based platforms I recently posted. Kids are learning, grandpa.

Also, what shenanigans? They were doing PlayStation exclusives because Sony was paying them. It worked for them during the PS4 era, not so much with the PS5. Now it sounds like they’re not doing it anymore, that’s business.

Nice job assuming I'm only talking about their PlayStation exclusivity deals, but rather how they were handling their PC ports in general. Also, apart from VII and XVI (which Square themselves admitted they took the wrong bet), Final Fantasy hasn't been PlayStation-only brand since... PS2?

 

[KeAShizuku]

It was SE that started the trend of porting Jap games to Steam with Last Remant- which was surprisingly the superior version of the game.

(PC becoming the weebstation is what got me back into PC gaming. Have my computer connected to a TV and use a Dualsense. It is like a 2500 eurodollars console).

 

[Yosharian]

It was SE that started the trend of porting Jap games to Steam with Last Remant- which was surprisingly the superior version of the game.

(PC becoming the weebstation is what got me back into PC gaming. Have my computer connected to a TV and use a Dualsense. It is like a 2500 eurodollars console).

Yeah and SE's retro content is kicking the shit out of its modern titles.

 

[KeAShizuku]

Still no official announcement regarding sales, but there's this

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is ‘underperforming’ sales wise, analyst claims

Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth is reportedly underperforming commercially.

That’s according to Daniel Ahmad, director of research and insights at Niko Partners, who said the PS5 game has been faring worse than its predecessor following its release in February.

“Rebirth is underperforming sales wise”, he said on X.

“It’s selling about half of what Remake sold in the same timeframe and looks like it’ll have a weaker tail (prior to any PS+ like release),” Ahmad added.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake was released for PS4 in April 2020, when the console had an installed base of over 100 million units.

Shipments of the game topped 3.5 million in its first three days, according to publisher Square Enix, which hasn’t announced Rebirth sales data.

Source: VGC

That's what happens when you pull a bait and switch with the first one. Many of the players just looking for a remake and not some time fuckery sequel are going to jump ship.

Honestly I think the whole project is a spectacular waste of time and resources. I thought splitting a JRPG into multiple parts released several years apart was a bad idea back when they announced it. These kind of games need to be complete self-contained experiences. A lot of people probably feel as if they have to play Remake again to “refresh” and prepare for Rebirth. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that [having to play Remake again] is putting people off.
I've also heard a number of people say that there's too much stuff to do in Rebirth, the number of mini games present seems to be a common complaint.
It really does sound as if they have again padded out the latest entry in this project with lots of unnecessary stuff.

Reminds me of Netflix. Season one of popular show comes out and you have to wait for 3 years for next season. It is fucking garbage which is why I just binge watch old shows.

Way back on the PS2 when videogames did not take 5 years to make this format kinda worked.

https://youtu.be/U9exKRmJAao?feature=shared

 

[Yuggoth]

So... I reckon the PC port is good and Square didn't fuck it up as some of their previous works?

 

[Morgoth]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-review/

68

Great characters and combat can’t hide poor pacing and a story with nowhere to go.

That must be the first sensible Rebirth review I've come across.

 

[KeAShizuku]

Honestly if I'm going to play this I'll use a mod to skip the mini games.

 

[deuxhero]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-review/

68

Great characters and combat can’t hide poor pacing and a story with nowhere to go.

That must be the first sensible Rebirth review I've come across.

I watched a (pre-Rebrith) video of a gimmick playthrough (can only do damage with items) of the original FF7 a few weeks ago. Comments were surprisingly full of people admitting that they just don't remember the midgame dungeons and fights that gave the runner the most trouble (due to playing the game in a very unintended way) at all and the whole section is just kinda a blur to them. Even FF7 fans don't seem to care about the middle portion Rebirth is largely spent on. Remake's second part was fucked from the moment SE split it into three.

 

[Sergio]

"Great characters" as long as you never played FF7 and you enjoy cringe children singing chocobo songs.

 

[Morgoth]

"Great characters" as long as you never played FF7 and you enjoy cringe children singing chocobo songs.

So the average Chud audience then.

 

[scytheavatar]

PC Gamer's logic for giving the game a 68/100:

Rebirth has the unenviable task of being the middle part of a trilogy that probably shouldn’t have been a trilogy in the first place. Stuck adapting not a whole lot of story, the game has to find some way to justify itself, and it tries to do that with too many mindless activities in open fields, too many extended mini-game breaks, and Cait Sith deciding that you have to suffer through an entirely pointless dungeon just because.

Narratively, it tries its best to disguise this issue by taking an increasing interest in sophomoric multiverse plays that exist only to create puzzle boxes for the audience to ponder over. But pry those boxes open and what’s inside? Absolutely nothing. For as much as the game wants to be a commentary on its own legacy, how Final Fantasy 7 has evolved beyond its creators over the decades, it pulls back every time it inches towards saying anything of interest on the topic. It’s hungry for change, but too wrapped up in its own reverence, too afraid of betraying its legacy, to take that necessary step forward.

Being so devoted to Final Fantasy 7 means that there’s a lot of love to be found in Rebirth. And as a fan of that original game, it was so easy, for a while at least, to be swept up in the dazzling sights of Gaia, in the vibrant amusement park of games and sidequests at my fingertips, to hop on this rollercoaster journey with many of my all-time favorite characters and give myself to the joy of being able to spend more time with them. But all the charm and pageantry in the world can only distract me for so long before I realize: nothing has happened this whole vacation. The ship hasn’t even left the dock.

 

[Thalstarion]

It's the tonal shift that bothers me the most. The original game made it clear that much of the world was very seedy, shady and gritty. The more recent attempts at replicating that are heavily sanitised and replace all the sleaze with pure comic relief and try to pretend that it's all just good, unserious fun.

 

[cvv]

"Piracy is marginal."

Piracy:

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Haplo]

"Piracy is marginal."

Piracy:

Well, maybe if the devs weren't so greedy, as to ask over 60 Euro for 1/3 of a game, that goes nowhere with its story, the piracy wouldn't be such a problem.

 

[Tyrr]

For an almost 1 year old game.

 

[Inec0rn]

The EGS exclusivity warrants a high seas or skip for this series, they've already been paid.

 

[Yosharian]

Apparently the optimization on this is really shit. Stutters like crazy

 

[Tyrr]

I hear you can't even turn off stuff like motion blur or depth of field?