Fun with Pierre Begue, creator of Knights of the Chalice

[deuxhero]

You need a clear line to charge, but the grid is an abstraction (The characters can charge in more than 8 directions).

Here is the relevevent OGL rules

Here’s what it means to have a clear path. First, you must move to the closest space from which you can attack the opponent. (If this space is occupied or otherwise blocked, you can’t charge.) Second, if any line from your starting space to the ending space passes through a square that blocks movement, slows movement, or contains a creature (even an ally), you can’t charge.

A line is a corner of a space to another corner.

That's what I THINK is going on anyways, didn't play KotC because the graphics in the demo had such an odd prospective it hurt to look at.

edit: Picture form

As long as all those black lines have nothing in their way, you can charge (actually working it out like this just makes me confused, as the guy south of you should be stopping your charge. Is he dead/dying/paralysed or something?).

(one a related note, "line" spells like Lightning Bolt work on a similar corner to corner "line")

 

[Jack Dandy]

I see. Thanks for the explanation. Also, why would the guy at the south stop my charge? he's no where near them.

 

[deuxhero]

I'm referring to the mace wielding one (one of your guys) in blue and a white cloak directly next to you, not the guy with a shield in red in the south east.

 

[Merlkir]

So, uh..3 questions

1. If one of my guy is TOTALLY dead (not just unconcious).. Is there a cleric\temple somewhere where I can revive him?

The sorcerer in the knights' tower sells resurrection scrolls. (5th level cleric spell, iirc). (just had to deal with this yesterday myself) They're a bit pricey if you're just starting out though, around 6000 gold.

(if you're not opposed to exploiting a bit, there's a guy who'll play dice with you, for 50 gold a game. Just save the game and spam 1), to play as many games as you can. The random draw seems mostly balanced in the player's favour, I won 4000 gold in a couple of minutes.)

 

[Baron Dupek]

Isn't better idea to craft some overpowered gear and sell it?

 

[Merlkir]

If you have crafting, I guess. Still new to the game, only started playing on Friday.

 

[Jack Dandy]

About the dead guy, I found a cleric in one of the towns to the east.. He revived my mage for me. Didn't cost me too much, either

 

[Koschey]

There should also be a dwarven merchant on the tower's ground floor offering healing services. He's called Gimrig or something like that.

Crafting requires expending both gold and experience points and selling prices in most cases lie slightly below crafting cost, so it's cheaper and more flexible than buying equipment, but doesn't break the economy.

 

[DraQ]

Hehehe, Delicious Drama.

I hadn't even heard of BoTS at all- anyone liked it?

People who hate video games possibly.

It's pretty much Dune 2, except bad - ugly, far more primitive and without the setting.

The only place BotS would fit in is between Minesweeper and Solitaire.

Pretty much this. I can't see anyone playing it willingly even if the only alternative would be replaying Dune 2 to the end of their days.

mid-to-late

Nope.

 

[SCO]

Dune 2 Extended

Dune Legacy

 

[Outlander]

Dune 2 Extended

Dune Legacy

Are they ever going to implement multiple unit selection?

 

[SCO]

fuck that, would make the game too easy, next you'll want redalert 'evasive maneuvers' button (which is hilarious nonsense in retrospect, tanks dodging AT rounds, which is faster and why).

 

[DraQ]

fuck that, would make the game too easy

Too easy on my wrists, yes.

Better add planet spice scanning minigame in it too, for extra hardcore.

 

[groke]

Dune 2 Extended

Dune Legacy

Are they ever going to implement multiple unit selection?

Check out Dune 2: The Golden Path for a more undomesticated-snowman, multiplayer-focused "port". The developer seems to share the same transient insanity that Pierre and so many other developers succumb to, but it looks like he's finally returned to working on the game after a brief attempt at monetization.

 

[Declinator]

fuck that, would make the game too easy

You seriously think that it's better to not be able to choose multiple units? The thing that is basically the single most important improvement in RTS games since Dune 2 itself came around?

The fact that you cannot choose multiple units is also pretty much the only reason why I don't replay Dune 2. Not because it makes it more difficult but because it makes it infinitely more tedious.

 

[Damned Registrations]

All this menu based unit commands and selection is popamole anyways. In my day, we had to fly our personal aircraft over the unit, pick it up, and give it orders directly before dropping it off! Harrumph.

 

[DraQ]

Not really. It's just one of the factors that goes with the "RPG fans don't really have very high standards for their games."

And PB didn't even create his own system for the game, he's using an already established system. He doesn't even seem to really grasp the flaws and balacing issues of the system, seeing as how he left vanilla Fighters as-is in KoTC1 in a D&D game that goes up to high levels (and he needed some help with some of the changes he made in KoTC2 judging from the forum posts).

edit: Just to clarify: if you make something like a fighting game, you need to have the technical aspects extremely tight ALONG with having graphics that are considered "good." Fighting games fans have a ridiculous high standard when it comes to games that they patronize which leads to terrible practices like DLC character because the cost/reward ratio of making these are really low.

If you make a wargame, you definitely need to have the gameplay down pat, while you probably don't need good graphics, so I'll give them around "mid-high" standards for its fans.

RPG fans don't need good graphics, and they don't even seem to need good gameplay at times, considering most of the time, RPG combat is degenerate and "solved" easily with a handful of classes or spells dominant. Most strategy game won't get away with having dominant strategies like that.

You're saying this as if RPGs, even old ones, weren't the absolute pinnacle of cereberal gaming they obviously are.

Spoiler

:derpgcodex:

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

I'd buy a copy of KotC for 15 potato, no more.

It would be cool if someone from the Codex would write a honest review of his RTS.

 

[Overboard]

It would be cool if someone from the Codex would write a honest review of his RTS.

Banal, shit, boring.

The End.