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Azdul

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GOG was good when they stayed in their lane. There was a small profit to be made in being the store for old games. But I have been noticing that you can find more of them on Steam now so IDK that bridge may have burned.

This DRM free stuff was never going to work out. The vast majority of consumers could not give a shit (we all know how gamer boycotts pan out) and publishers love DRM.

You just can't beat Valve.
I won't buy anything 'Rockstar' since they removed soundtrack from the games I supposedly 'own', with Valve cooperation in enforcing mandatory patches. Not to mention that Steam publishers do not really have incentive to remove DRM when it stops working, leaving customers with non-working game.

There is a market for DRM-free games, and when GOG does not deliver, smaller players like Zoom or Itch.io will step in. Or developers will sell the games directly, knowing that for some people DRM is a deal breaker.

In last 5 years I've never found any game exciting enough to buy DRM copy from Steam.
 
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Zoo

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GOG was good when they stayed in their lane. There was a small profit to be made in being the store for old games. But I have been noticing that you can find more of them on Steam now so IDK that bridge may have burned.

This DRM free stuff was never going to work out. The vast majority of consumers could not give a shit (we all know how gamer boycotts pan out) and publishers love DRM.

You just can't beat Valve.
I won't buy anything 'Rockstar' since they removed soundtrack from the games I supposedly 'own', with Valve cooperation in enforcing mandatory patches. Not to mention that Steam publishers do not really have incentive to remove DRM when it stops working, leaving customers with non-working game.

There is a market for DRM-free games, and when GOG does not deliver, smaller players like Zoom or Itch.io will step in. Or developers will sell the games directly, knowing that for some people DRM is a deal breaker.

In last 5 years I've never found any game exciting enough to buy DRM copy from Steam.
I bought the GTA games from Gamersgate after the mandatory patches, but they aren't the versions with butchered soundtracks, because the keys were older. So they didn't alter my "owned" games.

Nonetheless, I prefer GOG to Steam for old games, the rollback feature (sadly, Galaxy needed) is better than the opting for beta versions.
 

Azdul

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GOG was good when they stayed in their lane. There was a small profit to be made in being the store for old games. But I have been noticing that you can find more of them on Steam now so IDK that bridge may have burned.

This DRM free stuff was never going to work out. The vast majority of consumers could not give a shit (we all know how gamer boycotts pan out) and publishers love DRM.

You just can't beat Valve.
I won't buy anything 'Rockstar' since they removed soundtrack from the games I supposedly 'own', with Valve cooperation in enforcing mandatory patches. Not to mention that Steam publishers do not really have incentive to remove DRM when it stops working, leaving customers with non-working game.

There is a market for DRM-free games, and when GOG does not deliver, smaller players like Zoom or Itch.io will step in. Or developers will sell the games directly, knowing that for some people DRM is a deal breaker.

In last 5 years I've never found any game exciting enough to buy DRM copy from Steam.
I bought the GTA games from Gamersgate after the mandatory patches, but they aren't the versions with butchered soundtracks, because the keys were older. So they didn't alter my "owned" games.

Nonetheless, I prefer GOG to Steam for old games, the rollback feature (sadly, Galaxy needed) is better than the opting for beta versions.
Besides Steam, I have physical copies, but they do not run due to DRM being kernel-level driver incompatible with Windows 10, but mainly due to Rockstar being assholes:


Steam copies were updated to remove songs, but not to fix crashing on new Windows. And Rockstar sues guys hosting open source reimplementation of the engine, because they have hilariously bad remaster to sell:


DRM and DMCA create a legal way to shut down open source reimplementations, due to 'circumventing copy protection' clause. No wonder that some publishers love it.
 

Avonaeon

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Still the question of ownership.
They might give you legalese speak about how downloading an installer is totes owning the game but in reality you're still granted the license to use the software just like it has been even before digital media.
If you have the offline installer saved locally, they can't do shit, license or not. It is de facto ownership.
 
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Still the question of ownership.
They might give you legalese speak about how downloading an installer is totes owning the game but in reality you're still granted the license to use the software just like it has been even before digital media.
If you have the offline installer saved locally, they can't do shit, license or not. It is de facto ownership.
It's your in the sense that you have it in your computer, but it's not yours in the sense that it belongs to you. Lawyers are gay weird like that.
 

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