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The concept of indie games lasted... what? 1 year?
Now it's just hipster games that get bought for the cool factor, and mostly never played.
 

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Lol @ 'we're not machines.' VD has been dealing with Valve via Greenlight and has nothing but praise for them. If they mean every drooling schmoe who submits a game... well they're going to have to hire another fifty entry-level JudasIscariot's if they want to be able to 'personally' deal with the hordes. There are hundreds upon hundreds of games submitted to Greenlight. Spending significant time with each developer individually is rather impractical.
 

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To be fair, there's only so many old games you can re-release before you run out, even less if you focus on good old games.
 

Cowboy Moment

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What's the problem with good DRM free indie games?
There's no such thing.

So Papers, Please or Hotline Miami don't count?

Granted, "good", when it comes to entertainment, is highly subjective but for me, those two aforementioned games are good, indie, and DRM free.

Just my 2 cents on the matter.

What he's really saying is them being DRM free means that they don't count towards his Steam level. Therefore they cannot be good by definition.
 
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DalekFlay

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I enjoy very few indie games, but when I do want one I want it DRM free with a soundtrack, which GOG usually provides. Of course so does humble.com, but either way works for me.
 

Bruticis

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What's the problem with good DRM free indie games?
There's no such thing.
So Papers, Please or Hotline Miami don't count?
Granted, "good", when it comes to entertainment, is highly subjective but for me, those two aforementioned games are good, indie, and DRM free.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.

What I mean is why are you adding more crap (see steam greenlight and the epic levels of shit that are now available due to it) when there are still lots of good old games yet to be added. It's time to pony up more money and get better lawyers to chase down some of older titles that have been alluding you for far to long.

What he's really saying is them being DRM free means that they don't count towards his Steam level. Therefore they cannot be good by definition.
Is this a gog shelf throwdown? Cause I can do that battle too. Whip it out, let's measure.
 

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What's the problem with good DRM free indie games?
There's no such thing.
So Papers, Please or Hotline Miami don't count?
Granted, "good", when it comes to entertainment, is highly subjective but for me, those two aforementioned games are good, indie, and DRM free.
Just my 2 cents on the matter.

What I mean is why are you adding more crap (see steam greenlight and the epic levels of shit that are now available due to it) when there are still lots of good old games yet to be added. It's time to pony up more money and get better lawyers to chase down some of older titles that have been alluding you for far to long.

What he's really saying is them being DRM free means that they don't count towards his Steam level. Therefore they cannot be good by definition.
Is this a gog shelf throwdown? Cause I can do that battle too. Whip it out, let's measure.

Crap is, again, just as subjective as good :P.

As I have often repeated elsewhere: we haven't stopped working on getting classics on our service but do keep in mind that there are lots of factors that prevent us from getting every known classic. Some of it is licensing issues especially the older the games are. Some are impossible to run in modern environments because they are 16-bit Windows games for which no one has built a working emulator along the lines of DOSBox, just to give an example.

tl;dr: we never stopped on getting the classics.

I really can't get into too much detail so forgive me if I am being a bit too vague.
 

Bruticis

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Some indie stuff being crap is subjective, sure, I'll give you that. But if you look at Steam, especially the greenlight process, it's rapidly becoming a platform full of massive shovelware. I don't think anyone can look at the greenlight winners and not wonder just who in the hell voted for most of this garbage.
 

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GOG currently has three Westwood games - Nox, Lands of Lore 1+2, and Lands of Lore 3. What's stopping you from getting their other games?
 

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What he's really saying is them being DRM free means that they don't count towards his Steam level. Therefore they cannot be good by definition.
Is this a gog shelf throwdown? Cause I can do that battle too. Whip it out, let's measure.

Yes, I'm making fun of you for buying useless games on Steam because I really want to brag about how many useless games I bought from GOG.

I still need to play FTL and Hotline Miami.
 

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I see no problem with GOG opening up to more indies. Potentially better coverage for indie RPGs like Grimoire, Frayed Knights, Swords & Sorcery: Underworld, Knights of the Chalice, etc. The GOG community is more old-school oriented than Steam and would most likely embrace these titles.

I still hope we'll see the SSI back catalog on there one day though. I imagine the D&D titles are a bit of legal nightmare.
 

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So Papers, Please or Hotline Miami don't count?

Granted, "good", when it comes to entertainment, is highly subjective but for me, those two aforementioned games are good, indie, and DRM free.

Just my 2 cents on the matter.
Yeah, but saying there aren't any good indie games is so much more edgier.
 

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Bruticis

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Some indie stuff being crap is subjective, sure, I'll give you that. But if you look at Steam, especially the greenlight process, it's rapidly becoming a platform full of massive shovelware. I don't think anyone can look at the greenlight winners and not wonder just who in the hell voted for most of this garbage.
Yeah, just look at this piece of garbage:

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=93102452
Couldn't agree more. Lucky for us all, that shit will never get released the greenlight.
 

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