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Good MMORPG's in 2024?

Dr1f7

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really depends on what you want cuz well i don't think 'mmo' really means much these days
for me:

EVE is my fav long term mmo that's really a space strategy sandbox
WoW is my fav for co-op dungeon running. I don't have patience for raiding but I hear those are good in wow too. also WSG is just a great classic pvp map like blood gulch 2fort etc and will always be fun

GW1 and OSRS can be fun single player experiences (this is partly why i don't understand the term mmorpg these two games are single player games with chat boxes)
Is Elden Ring an mmo? It was clearly designed as a co-op game and you can certainly play with others more often than you do in games like GW1 and OSRS

then there's dota which is like a pvp mmo condensed into 45 minute matches

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also as an aside I wouldn't get so hung up on goldbuyers/gdkp you can still see all of the content in wow without buying gold.. and so what if someone outbids you on an item? they do 2% more dps and you get a chunk of their gold. who gives a fuck. idk i just wouldn't let something so trivial ruin a game for me
 

damager

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its more like i seen all the content anyway and now i feel unwell in a culture totally surrounded by goldbuying retards
 

Lariko.Sch

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really depends on what you want cuz well i don't think 'mmo' really means much these days
for me:

EVE is my fav long term mmo that's really a space strategy sandbox
WoW is my fav for co-op dungeon running. I don't have patience for raiding but I hear those are good in wow too. also WSG is just a great classic pvp map like blood gulch 2fort etc and will always be fun

GW1 and OSRS can be fun single player experiences (this is partly why i don't understand the term mmorpg these two games are single player games with chat boxes)
Is Elden Ring an mmo? It was clearly designed as a co-op game and you certainly play with others more often than you do in games like GW1 and OSRS

then there's dota which is like a pvp mmo condensed into 45 minute matches

~~~~~~~~~~~
also as an aside I wouldn't get so hung up on goldbuyers/gdkp you can still see all of the content in wow without buying gold.. and so what if someone outbids you on an item? they do 2% more dps and you get a chunk of their gold. who gives a fuck. idk i just wouldn't let something so trivial ruin a game for me
the problem with gdkp is that it puts a "dollar tag" on everything you do ingame. WOW is already a nobrainer time-sink as it is, and gdkp takes away the weight of any """merit""" and """accomplishment""" that you would get from playing.

why raid so many times to get that one item when you can just swipe your credit card? at this point it becomes just like the cope that you see on gacha games.
"yeah this thing costs 10 dollars, but i can farm it mindleslly for like 30+ hours tho, completely fair and reasonable"
 

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FF XIV, as much as I hate to admit it, despite its graphics getting shat upon apparently ITT, is capable (now) of looking quite nice. It's not Skyrim-level graphics, not quite, but as an MMO you're not going to get much better graphical quality than it.

Dawntrail (7.0X) really did make quite an improvement.

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Dr1f7

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really depends on what you want cuz well i don't think 'mmo' really means much these days
for me:

EVE is my fav long term mmo that's really a space strategy sandbox
WoW is my fav for co-op dungeon running. I don't have patience for raiding but I hear those are good in wow too. also WSG is just a great classic pvp map like blood gulch 2fort etc and will always be fun

GW1 and OSRS can be fun single player experiences (this is partly why i don't understand the term mmorpg these two games are single player games with chat boxes)
Is Elden Ring an mmo? It was clearly designed as a co-op game and you certainly play with others more often than you do in games like GW1 and OSRS

then there's dota which is like a pvp mmo condensed into 45 minute matches

~~~~~~~~~~~
also as an aside I wouldn't get so hung up on goldbuyers/gdkp you can still see all of the content in wow without buying gold.. and so what if someone outbids you on an item? they do 2% more dps and you get a chunk of their gold. who gives a fuck. idk i just wouldn't let something so trivial ruin a game for me
the problem with gdkp is that it puts a "dollar tag" on everything you do ingame. WOW is already a nobrainer time-sink as it is, and gdkp takes away the weight of any """merit""" and """accomplishment""" that you would get from playing.

why raid so many times to get that one item when you can just swipe your credit card? at this point it becomes just like the cope that you see on gacha games.
"yeah this thing costs 10 dollars, but i can farm it mindleslly for like 30+ hours tho, completely fair and reasonable"

idk i just don't understand this mindset. i play the game to have fun adventures and to run cool co-op dungeons/raids with friends, not to sweat over some dumb infinite gear treadmill that resets every 3 months.
 

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idk i just don't understand this mindset. i play the game to have fun adventures and to run cool co-op dungeons/raids with friends, not to sweat over some dumb infinite gear treadmill that resets every 3 months.
I bet you fuck up every group and get kicked a lot.

MMOs breed a toxic mindset because people don't want to waste time playing with others who don't take it seriously. If you try the same boss for hours it breeds frustration and resentment towards the people who fuck it up. Just the way it is.
 

Dr1f7

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yeah ur right my character name is derpderp and i get kicked usually a third of the way thru every dungeon I just think it's really cool to walk into fire cuz it gives my hero a fire aura and it looks epic
sometimes tho they let me stay for the whole dungeon run, ive seen a few end bosses in dungeons and their prety c00l

also i play eve the notoriously most unforgiving + complex mmo but i'm just too retard to learn my 5 button wow rotations
 

Dr1f7

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but i'm just too retard to learn my 5 button wow rotations
what endgame content have you done in wow?
well i was able to put a raid group together to take down 'hogger'. that was pretty epic (and i got some sick loot from the quest!)

lately ive been stuck fighting these harvester robot thingies in westfall though, it just takes me a while to find and click the 'fireball' button and they usually knock me out by then
 

damager

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I bought NWN back when I was 13 years old based on liking BG1

I derped around in the maincampagn a bit before checking out the online servers and connecting to a server called "Dippelsbach" this was an RP server that over time became the biggest german NWN server under the updated name "Bund der alten Reiche". I rolled a bard on there, learned how roleplaying works and soon became even GM on the server. I found many friends, had my first coding experiences, bought a D&D 3.5 playerbook and it's probably the reason I joined this forum in the long run too.

I also met one of the other GM's on the server in RL. He took me to some roleplaying convention, we ate pizza and watched Lord of the Rings. He also showed me how to powerlevel my Bard that was still level 4 after years of RP. And he did not molest me. He had a girlfriend.
 

Lariko.Sch

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I bought NWN back when I was 13 years old based on liking BG1

I derped around in the maincampagn a bit before checking out the online servers and connecting to a server called "Dippelsbach" this was an RP server that over time became the biggest german NWN server under the updated name "Bund der alten Reiche". I rolled a bard on there, learned how roleplaying works and soon became even GM on the server. I found many friends, had my first coding experiences, bought a D&D 3.5 playerbook and it's probably the reason I joined this forum in the long run too.

I also met one of the other GM's on the server in RL. He took me to some roleplaying convention, we ate pizza and watched Lord of the Rings. He also showed me how to powerlevel my Bard that was still level 4 after years of RP. And he did not molest me. He had a girlfriend.
looks like someone missed a once in a lifetime opportunity here
 
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I bought NWN back when I was 13 years old based on liking BG1

I derped around in the maincampagn a bit before checking out the online servers and connecting to a server called "Dippelsbach" this was an RP server that over time became the biggest german NWN server under the updated name "Bund der alten Reiche". I rolled a bard on there, learned how roleplaying works and soon became even GM on the server. I found many friends, had my first coding experiences, bought a D&D 3.5 playerbook and it's probably the reason I joined this forum in the long run too.

I also met one of the other GM's on the server in RL. He took me to some roleplaying convention, we ate pizza and watched Lord of the Rings. He also showed me how to powerlevel my Bard that was still level 4 after years of RP. And he did not molest me. He had a girlfriend.
I was ~15 y.o. when NWN came out. I gave OC an hour before ditching it, then immediately jumped on the only available shard. It was filled with roleplayers, which disgusted me to no end, so I rolled a Chaotic Evil character and massacred them non-stop. They banned me after a few days, but because this was a pirate shard, I could create fake accounts at will. Rolled a new character, told DM my 18-lvl toon got corrupted somehow. He issues me enough XP to level up to 18, and I went on killing them again.
They had a forum where they wailed in absolute pain. I jumped on that forum to make fun of them. A chick of my age took notice of me there and slid into my PMs. We got married a few years later and still are.
 

Lariko.Sch

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I bought NWN back when I was 13 years old based on liking BG1

I derped around in the maincampagn a bit before checking out the online servers and connecting to a server called "Dippelsbach" this was an RP server that over time became the biggest german NWN server under the updated name "Bund der alten Reiche". I rolled a bard on there, learned how roleplaying works and soon became even GM on the server. I found many friends, had my first coding experiences, bought a D&D 3.5 playerbook and it's probably the reason I joined this forum in the long run too.

I also met one of the other GM's on the server in RL. He took me to some roleplaying convention, we ate pizza and watched Lord of the Rings. He also showed me how to powerlevel my Bard that was still level 4 after years of RP. And he did not molest me. He had a girlfriend.
I was ~15 y.o. when NWN came out. I gave OC an hour before ditching it, then immediately jumped on the only available shard. It was filled with roleplayers, which disgusted me to no end, so I rolled a Chaotic Evil character and massacred them non-stop. They banned me after a few days, but because this was a pirate shard, I could create fake accounts at will. Rolled a new character, told DM my 18-lvl toon got corrupted somehow. He issues me enough XP to level up to 18, and I went on killing them again.
They had a forum where they wailed in absolute pain. I jumped on that forum to make fun of them. A chick of my age took notice of me there and slid into my PMs. We got married a few years later and still are.
speaking of being disgusted by rp, sometime ago i've decided to see what city of heroes was about, never again.
 

Mud'

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Not gonna lie, i had some fun with EverCraft Online, its a wierd ass mix of Minecraft + EQ1, but somehow it has a charm of it own, its feels social, its combat is decent and most of all, it captured my ass for more than 5 hours straight, it has the exploration part down, thats for sure, the reason they use Minecraft based graphics are because they found that is the easiest way to pour content into it and i do trust them on that, but it was a very specific feel, give a try, it might feel fun for you too and it has that old school vibe to it.

Other "MMO" i play is Ultima Adventures, very, very small community, based on the Ruins & Riches UO mod that seeks to turn UO into a AD&D simulation game that works great to be honest, but UA also "simulates" a MMO type of world while on top of the AD&D simulation + a fuck ton of content and a lot of helpful shit to skip the grind, like offline books you can find to train skills to level 70 or so, i liked this pace of gameplay more than Outlands, Outlands is like trying to live in New York and fighting to death with a hobo for a piece of bread while Ultima Adventure feels like living in the country side and having veeery few and wide interactions in your shed but all of them feel meaningful.

Of course this is very biased towards old school type of games and chill to play, i never got into the GOGOGO endgame type of MMORPGs so these recomendations are probably not what you are looking for.
 

damager

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Not gonna lie, i had some fun with EverCraft Online, its a wierd ass mix of Minecraft + EQ1, but somehow it has a charm of it own, its feels social, its combat is decent and most of all, it captured my ass for more than 5 hours straight, it has the exploration part down, thats for sure, the reason they use Minecraft based graphics are because they found that is the easiest way to pour content into it and i do trust them on that, but it was a very specific feel, give a try, it might feel fun for you too and it has that old school vibe to it.

Other "MMO" i play is Ultima Adventures, very, very small community, based on the Ruins & Riches UO mod that seeks to turn UO into a AD&D simulation game that works great to be honest, but UA also "simulates" a MMO type of world while on top of the AD&D simulation + a fuck ton of content and a lot of helpful shit to skip the grind, like offline books you can find to train skills to level 70 or so, i liked this pace of gameplay more than Outlands, Outlands is like trying to live in New York and fighting to death with a hobo for a piece of bread while Ultima Adventure feels like living in the country side and having veeery few and wide interactions in your shed but all of them feel meaningful.

Of course this is very biased towards old school type of games and chill to play, i never got into the GOGOGO endgame type of MMORPGs so these recomendations are probably not what you are looking for.
No, no. Thanks man, I appreciate your input.

I will definitly check out EverCraft. Though the website says "Can I play the game right now? EverCraft Online is currently in development. However, you can join our Discord community to stay updated and be invited to special testing events." How to go about playing it than?
 

GaelicVigil

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EverQuest Project 1999 is my favorite because it still has the ability to make you sweat at times. No instant teleportation, no in-game map, true racial differences: being a dwarf or halflings means you have to deal with having less height line of sight, and being a human means no dark vision. Always gotta be looking over your shoulder when you're far from your bind point at risk of losing all your equipment.

If anyone is interested, I just rolled up a new alt on the Green server. Playing a Pally over in Qeynos. Would love to group up. You need to find a copy of the Titanium version of the game, but it's easier to just download this copy from Archive.org which has unnecessary files already trimmed out. You'll just need the latest patch from the site.

 

Lariko.Sch

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EverQuest Project 1999 is my favorite because it still has the ability to make you sweat at times. No instant teleportation, no in-game map, true racial differences: being a dwarf or halflings means you have to deal with having less height line of sight, and being a human means no dark vision. Always gotta be looking over your shoulder when you're far from your bind point at risk of losing all your equipment.

If anyone is interested, I just rolled up a new alt on the Green server. Playing a Pally over in Qeynos. Would love to group up. You need to find a copy of the Titanium version of the game, but it's easier to just download this copy from Archive.org which has unnecessary files already trimmed out. You'll just need the latest patch from the site.


i might check it out later, seems pretty interesting
 

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