Vapourware Google Stadia - "a game streaming service for everyone"

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

They basically forced all companies and users (with upgrades) to change to Windows 10, for nothing, its a bit faster and thats it.

I still haven't seen any real proof win 10 is faster than 7. 10 (just like 8) is 7 with useless crap (for users) added on top.

You need TempleOS. Soon coming to Stadia.

 

[abija]

Windows 10 loads much faster on my main rig, compared to Win 7.

Not "a little faster".

Maybe it resumes faster from the fake shutdown. Do a proper reboot and time them. I have no problems with 10 either, but it was the same with 7. And 7 was in desktop fully loaded faster than 10 starts loading the delayed startup stuff.
Also, I've seen several laptops with slow hdds crumbled by win 10 which I never noticed on 7.

 

[c2007]

Windows 10 loads much faster on my main rig, compared to Win 7.

Not "a little faster".

Maybe it resumes faster from the fake shutdown. Do a proper reboot and time them. I have no problems with 10 either, but it was the same with 7. And 7 was in desktop fully loaded faster than 10 starts loading the delayed startup stuff.
Also, I've seen several laptops with slow hdds crumbled by win 10 which I never noticed on 7.

Regarding laptops, no argument. Win10 made my HDD on the GW75 sputter pretty bad, while it had loaded decently as a W7 device.

When I upgraded to an SSD on that laptop, it became lightning fast. In short, W10 does not like spinning drives. That I'll give you.

Edit: regarding full shutdown/reboot - no, it's significantly faster on W10. On main rig and laptop. Main had an SSD before W10 migration.

 

[Lutte]

Windows 10 loads much faster on my main rig, compared to Win 7.
.

That's solely due to improvements that already existed in Win8 like fast startup. Windows 8 was meant to run on atom tablets and ARM garbage and that's where they did most of those optimizations first.

It's only things like OS launch and memory footprint on lower ram hardware that is affected. Runtime performance is identical, you ain't getting higher FPS in games by running 10.

 

[c2007]

Windows 10 loads much faster on my main rig, compared to Win 7.
.

That's solely due to improvements that already existed in Win8 like fast startup. Windows 8 was meant to run on atom tablets and ARM garbage and that's where they did most of those optimizations first.

It's only things like OS launch and memory footprint on lower ram hardware that is affected. Runtime performance is identical, you ain't getting higher FPS in games by running 10.

Yes.

Never claimed that W10 improves gayming. I have concluded that it doesn't negatively affect gaming though, as many shitposters here and everywhere like to claim.

The only noticeable difference between the OSes, for me, is the startup time. Only reason I mention it.

 

[Lutte]

But as I said, there's no real diff with 8 on that matter too. You missed the inbetween OS release. There was something after 7 and before 10. 10dindunuffin besides bringing the full screen shit start menu into a not full screen but still shit menu and taking away control over updates.

 

[c2007]

I did upgrade to 8.1, briefly. As soon as 10 was available I went to it, as the GUI changes in 8.0 made me want to burn the office down. Laptop skipped 8 completely as a result.

I'm not arguing with you... I don't like the update program, it is almost universally panned.

 

[Lutte]

as the GUI changes in 8.0 made me want to burn the office down.

Was it really so hard to install classic shell?

 

[c2007]

as the GUI changes in 8.0 made me want to burn the office down.

Was it really so hard to install classic shell?

I don't know. I don't install indie 3rd party software to modify my OS. I modify it myself with setup and then whatever I learn from the world.

I did a default install of 8, nearly bashed my keyboard through my monitor, nuked it and started over with a custom install CD. Made windows 8 behave decently enough without some randomware. Your solution was for basic users or lazy people.

 

[Melcar]

Windows 8 was cancer supreme with a side of large fries. Windows 10 fixed most of what W8 did but introduced a shitload of other problems (still a lot more usable than W8 however). It has been getting better over time, but fuck, it took them a while. With this last major update it feels mostly right for the main uses I have it for (office PC for Excel spreadsheets and internet).

 

[Steamboat Willie]

I only used Windows 8 for about a day before going back to Windows 7. I finally upgraded when Windows 8.1 came out. It was quite an improvement. The Start Screen still sucked, but I was more or less able to avoid using it entirely.

 

[CrunchyHemorrhoids]

If Google is willing to eat the cost of Stadia for long enough until 5G comes into full swing, it could easily be huge.

That's when Amazon crashes the party.

 

[c2007]

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...-phil-harrison-internet-speed-streaming-games

Ok... Yes the source is hot garbage. However, so is the moronic Google rep quoted in it. Some of the fabulous optimism/utter retardation of this company that some cucks think is "so smart". Please.

“The ISPs have a strong history of staying ahead of consumer trend and if you look at the history of data caps in those small number of markets ... the trend over time, when music streaming and download became popular, especially in the early days when it was not necessarily legitimate, data caps moved up,” explained Harrison. “Then with the evolution of TV and film streaming, data caps moved up, and we expect that will continue to be the case.”

Harrison would go on to note that “ISPs are smart [and] they understand that they’re in the business of keeping customers happy and keeping customers with them for a long time”

Has this dipshit ever been to Oklahoma? Nebraska?

Spoiler

Google’s Phil Harrison isn’t worried about ISP data caps for Stadia
‘ISPs are smart [and] they understand that they’re in the business of keeping customers happy.’

• By Chaim Gartenberg
• on June 28, 2019 4:22 pm

Image: Google
One of the questions surrounding data-hungry streaming services like Project Stadia is how they’ll manage with things like data caps, which some home internet services place strict limits on (similar to cellular data). But in an interview with GameSpot, Phil Harrison, vice president and general manager of Google, doesn’t seem too concerned that it’ll be an issue.

“The ISPs have a strong history of staying ahead of consumer trend and if you look at the history of data caps in those small number of markets ... the trend over time, when music streaming and download became popular, especially in the early days when it was not necessarily legitimate, data caps moved up,” explained Harrison. “Then with the evolution of TV and film streaming, data caps moved up, and we expect that will continue to be the case.”

launch this fall for early adopters ahead of a wider rollout in 2020.

 

[DalekFlay]

He's right that it would make no sense for ISPs to sabotage the future of media, because they're going to make lots of money from it. That's why the FCC and whatnot are working to let ISPs give services like Netflix exceptions to caps, and (at least where I live) there's no real caps anyway. Nebraska is a different challenge but like I said above, they've shown they're perfectly willing to write people off who live in rural bullshitville as long as the vast majority can and do use their services. Do you really think PC gaming today is even remotely geared towards people with poor internet? Hell no.

The tasty loss of any consumer rights, the consistent monthly revenue stream, the use of back catalogs that used to be worthless because of used discs... it's all way too tempting for corporations to let anything challenge it as the future. They'll figure it out for most and let the rest go.

 

[LESS T_T]

I wonder if we will see something new about BG3 here, even if it's not gameplay.

 

[taxalot]

You'll see Red Dead 2.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

"Orcs Must Die 3" is a Stadia exclusive.
https://9to5google.com/2019/08/19/orcs-must-die-3-stadia-exclusive/

 

[Alienman]

Interesting. That would mean the game is un-piratable right? So when Stadia dies that game will be lost forever to history (Unless the dev somehow release it of course outside Stadia) ?

 

[fantadomat]

game

It is some mobile like garbage of a tower defence...

 

[DalekFlay]

Interesting. That would mean the game is un-piratable right? So when Stadia dies that game will be lost forever to history (Unless the dev somehow release it of course outside Stadia) ?

I'd guess it's only exclusive for a certain time, but yeah that's the big concern with streaming exclusives. It's not like video where it can be captured. Once it's gone it's gone, assuming it never comes out another way. The vast majority of consumers don't give a shit though, so we're fucked.

 

[Alienman]

Yeah. What also has me curious, since it's a streaming exclusive is if the game will even have settings. Why would it? I guess resolution maybe.

Edit:

Realized consoles don't have settings either, but at least they exist in a format that you can keep around forever.

 

[taxalot]

Every AAA game will soon enough be online only, as a way to sell DLC or for streaming reasons. We can fight it, but I do not see it not happening in my lifetime.

 

[gerey]

Thankfully most modern games are politicized garbage so nothing of value will be lost.

 

[anvi]

Online only stops piracy too.

 

[DalekFlay]

Yeah. What also has me curious, since it's a streaming exclusive is if the game will even have settings. Why would it? I guess resolution maybe.

Resolution will be funny because they'll advertise "4k 60fps with HDR!!!" over and over, but that doesn't mean the game is actually rendering at that resolution. I would guess a lot of them will internally render while the video feed is 4k.