Vapourware Google Stadia - "a game streaming service for everyone"

[Morkar Left]

They make the entry point so easy and cheap to get compared to former price models (buying hardware and single games) that people will jump on it if enough developers join this kind of stuff. And having enough money to bribe developers they will probably agree to join even if it will be their demise in the long run.

 

[baud]

PSNow and Xbox whatever have massive brand recognition and all their exclusives.

Geforce now will have the benefit of cheap GPUs which allows them to pass some savings onto the consumer, and they will probably use their expertise to gain efficiencies there as well.

Google offers... Nothing.

They offer... assuming it works as well as people said Assassin's Creed did in that beta test... 4k gameplay on anything that can run Chrome. That's something, to my knowledge, none of the others are offering. It's that convenience and ubiquity that I think will sell the idea, so it's an important aspect.

On anything that can run Chrome and has access to high speed internet

 

[unfairlight]

On anything that can run Chrome and has access to high speed internet

Most people have 15mb/s internet. I get well above that on my phone. There's a lot of misguided and frankly delusional detraction & pessimism here. Even if it isn't a success out of the gate, Google can force it to be a success in little time because they have resources above anyone else. Once 5G gets wide adoption the latency is at a point where most people wouldn't even care (if not already at that point now, but it's wait and see until we get independent testing), the average fool is completely fine with subpar experiences as well if you just take a quick glance at this generation of consoles.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Google Fiber.
Picasa.
Hangouts.
Glass.

etc.

This will fail. Game streaming is something nobody asked for or needs. Girls are not going to buy controllers to play Candy Crush, and boys don't want something that can't play the latest shooter. It is the dumbest forced product in this ((((x)))) as a service nonsense marketing we are being served.

Solving a problem that doesn't exist, thanks Google.

Here's 20 to add to Google's failures https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2015/12/15/18-of-googles-biggest-failures-in-pictures/
For a balanced view we should find some of their successes...oh wait...do we include any of their malware/spyware/advertising products?

 

[Jarmaro]

Here's 20 to add to Google's failures https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2015/12/15/18-of-googles-biggest-failures-in-pictures/

Most of these are older than 2012, we are almost 2020 now, I'd say they weren't doing so bad lately.

For a balanced view we should find some of their successes...oh wait...do we include any of their malware/spyware/advertising products?

• Google search engine, most popular in the world
  
• Chrome, 67% of all browsers market share
• Gmail, most used email
• Google Drive
• Android, most popular operating system on non-pc devices
• Google Maps
• Youtube

Google's gigantic corporation for a reason.

 

[Thane Solus]

Here's 20 to add to Google's failures https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2015/12/15/18-of-googles-biggest-failures-in-pictures/

Most of these are older than 2012, we are almost 2020 now, I'd say they weren't doing so bad lately.

For a balanced view we should find some of their successes...oh wait...do we include any of their malware/spyware/advertising products?

• Google search engine, most popular in the world
  
• Chrome, 67% of all browsers market share
• Gmail, most used email
• Google Drive
• Android, most popular operating system on non-pc devices
• Google Maps
• Youtube

Google's gigantic corporation for a reason.

Lel! So holding a monopoly with huge investment, makes those garbage software above good? You good sheep. All those products are bloatware and spyware+malware. Its popular so its good! )))))

 

[c2007]

Yes, and they'll be broken up into 10 or more smaller companies in less than 10 years.

You are congratulating them for winning a slanted new game where no one knew the rules because they hadn't been figured out yet. Time is on my side; monopolies are anathema to a healthy functioning capitalism and will not be allowed to stand.

 

[anvi]

Lol jk

 

[c2007]

You all should be careful what you say, they know where you live.

Spoiler

 

[baud]

On anything that can run Chrome and has access to high speed internet

Most people have 15mb/s internet. I get well above that on my phone. There's a lot of misguided and frankly delusional detraction & pessimism here. Even if it isn't a success out of the gate, Google can force it to be a success in little time because they have resources above anyone else. Once 5G gets wide adoption the latency is at a point where most people wouldn't even care (if not already at that point now, but it's wait and see until we get independent testing), the average fool is completely fine with subpar experiences as well if you just take a quick glance at this generation of consoles.

Most people have 15 mb/s?

And even then, you need a connection that's staying stable during all the time you're playing, not like when downloading or streaming.

 

[J_C]

Hats off to those edgy tryhards who are trying to downplay the value of the services google provides. What a bunch of idiots.

 

[Melcar]

Just because Google serves you shit on a 24K gold platter does not mean you have to eat it.

 

[DalekFlay]

On anything that can run Chrome and has access to high speed internet

I know rural Arkansas and potato land have issues with consistent internet, but companies will happily ignore those people if it means the vast majority will pay them monthly for a service they have full control over with no retail split, production costs or hardware install base concerns. The transformation of home video already shows this, or do you think Netflix are sweating the people living on a Polish mountain who can't watch their shit?

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Here's 20 to add to Google's failures https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2015/12/15/18-of-googles-biggest-failures-in-pictures/

Most of these are older than 2012, we are almost 2020 now, I'd say they weren't doing so bad lately.

For a balanced view we should find some of their successes...oh wait...do we include any of their malware/spyware/advertising products?

• Google search engine, most popular in the world
  
• Chrome, 67% of all browsers market share
• Gmail, most used email
• Google Drive
• Android, most popular operating system on non-pc devices
• Google Maps
• Youtube

Google's gigantic corporation for a reason.

And that reason is advertising, they built an empire on bloatware, malware, spyware and spam.
Besides, which of these "products" did they actually make (not buy), and which actually serves the general public and is not spyware?

• Google search engine, most popular in the world (Google made, also spyware/tracker)
  
• Chrome, 67% of all browsers market share (brought, then converted to bloatware)
  
• Gmail, most used email (Google made, spyware)
  
• Google Drive (Google made, also considered malware)
  
• Android, most popular operating system on non-pc devices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_(operating_system) purchased)
  
• Google Maps (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Maps purchased)
  
• Youtube (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube purchased)

I'm not really seeing a convincing pattern here, is anyone? They are hardly taking us to the moon, making flying cars, digging tunnels to ease congestion or anything truly innovative...

 

[baud]

On anything that can run Chrome and has access to high speed internet

I know rural Arkansas and potato land have issues with consistent internet, but companies will happily ignore those people if it means the vast majority will pay them monthly for a service they have full control over with no retail split, production costs or hardware install base concerns. The transformation of home video already shows this, or do you think Netflix are sweating the people living on a Polish mountain who can't watch their shit?

I don't disagree that companies will just ignore those than can't access their services, but I think the numbers of people who can reliably access Stadia and are interested isn't that high. Perhaps at another (cheaper) price point it might work, though.

 

[c2007]

On anything that can run Chrome and has access to high speed internet

I know rural Arkansas and potato land have issues with consistent internet, but companies will happily ignore those people if it means the vast majority will pay them monthly for a service they have full control over with no retail split, production costs or hardware install base concerns. The transformation of home video already shows this, or do you think Netflix are sweating the people living on a Polish mountain who can't watch their shit?

I don't disagree that companies will just ignore those than can't access their services, but I think the numbers of people who can reliably access Stadia and are interested isn't that high. Perhaps at another (cheaper) price point it might work, though.

Yes, but at a certain point the ROI isn't worth it and that cheaper price point hopefully relegates this greed scheme to the Hangouts dustbin.

 

[DalekFlay]

I don't disagree that companies will just ignore those than can't access their services, but I think the numbers of people who can reliably access Stadia and are interested isn't that high. Perhaps at another (cheaper) price point it might work, though.

Anyone living anywhere near a major U.S. city has plenty of internet for Stadia's requirements. I'd guess it's the same for Western Europe. That's plenty of people to build a user base off of, same as Netflix did, assuming the service works well enough for the average joe. That's the real question, IMO. If this works like Google are saying it does it'll be a big deal. If it doesn't, it won't.

 

[Plaguecrafter]

Lel! So holding a monopoly with huge investment, makes those garbage software above good? You good sheep. All those products are bloatware and spyware+malware. Its popular so its good! )))))

Almost every piece of software you use today is some sort of spyware. That argument is no longer valid in 2019.

 

[Thane Solus]

Lel! So holding a monopoly with huge investment, makes those garbage software above good? You good sheep. All those products are bloatware and spyware+malware. Its popular so its good! )))))

Almost every piece of software you use today is some sort of spyware. That argument is no longer valid in 2019.

Yeah... we reached peaked idiocracy, or we under way. But on PC you can block most of their spyware (not all). On phones, tvs, and other devices, nop... well beside a few options. Its no longer valid, but we should talk about it to remind us, how good sheeps we have become.

As for Window 10 like i told you, its popular because it has monopoly. They basically forced all companies and users (with upgrades) to change to Windows 10, for nothing, its a bit faster and thats it. For that you get tons on unwanted updates, stupid restarts and errors with no information(an error has occured windows now will kill your PC now), bloat, real spyware, and a shit mobile(touch screen) functionality. Yes you can customize some of it, but some services are cancer by default. You basically have to use several third party programs to make it stable. Until the next hidden update.

 

[taxalot]

Let's all ignore this big software company trying to brute force its way into the gaming economy with a subpar product just because they have infinite money.

It worked well when Microsoft tried to do the same things twenty years ago.

 

[abija]

They basically forced all companies and users (with upgrades) to change to Windows 10, for nothing, its a bit faster and thats it.

I still haven't seen any real proof win 10 is faster than 7. 10 (just like 8) is 7 with useless crap (for users) added on top.

 

[DalekFlay]

I've honestly never had one problem with Windows 10, but then all I use it for is playing games, posting on forums like this one and looking at highbrow, premium quality adult entertainment.

 

[c2007]

They basically forced all companies and users (with upgrades) to change to Windows 10, for nothing, its a bit faster and thats it.

I still haven't seen any real proof win 10 is faster than 7. 10 (just like 8) is 7 with useless crap (for users) added on top.

Windows 10 loads much faster on my main rig, compared to Win 7.

Not "a little faster".

I'm not a fan of the WAAS, but I have had zero issues with any of my games new or old on W10. About to reinstall Ultima 2, will report if I have difficulties but U5 played just fine a couple months ago.

I think most of the W10 complaints (not based on the bad update program (WAAS)) are things moved around in the settings/renamed/obscured, GUI annoyances, and retardation of most "gamers" that can't be arsed to read the readme when they install a game or mod.

I was an early adopter, as I've always been. Get on Paul Thurrott's site and figure it out.

 

[taxalot]

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to hide.

 

[Thane Solus]

They basically forced all companies and users (with upgrades) to change to Windows 10, for nothing, its a bit faster and thats it.

I still haven't seen any real proof win 10 is faster than 7. 10 (just like 8) is 7 with useless crap (for users) added on top.

Windows 10 loads much faster on my main rig, compared to Win 7.

Not "a little faster".

I'm not a fan of the WAAS, but I have had zero issues with any of my games new or old on W10. About to reinstall Ultima 2, will report if I have difficulties but U5 played just fine a couple months ago.

I think most of the W10 complaints (not based on the bad update program (WAAS)) are things moved around in the settings/renamed/obscured, GUI annoyances, and retardation of most "gamers" that can't be arsed to read the readme when they install a game or mod.

I was an early adopter, as I've always been. Get on Paul Thurrott's site and figure it out.

With a good SSD, i dont think you will see any difference. Without SSD its probably a big one.