Vapourware Google Stadia - "a game streaming service for everyone"

[Valky]

How do you persuade someone to give up their rights? Make it convenient and easy to do for them.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Psst, hey want to have an actual good idea instead of this stadia cancer? Remote desktop access software that you own a license of and install on your personal hardware, allowing you to then stream to your devices from your personal hardware, which you own your games on.

Or, rent a DaaS instance in the Cloud, buy a game, install it and stream it to your local machine/phone/whatever. Thats basically Stadia but it cuts out the middle man.
I do this so I can play games at work - run the DaaS client in a browser and bingo.

Yeah great. Can you see the average dumbfuck even understanding what you just wrote? They want something simple they can turn on and game for an hour whilst the wife puts the screaming kids to bed. This average dumbfuck doesn't even know what input lag is. They just want to pay a sub every month, push a button to turn something on and shoot zombies in the face. It may not stand up to scrutiny for the prestigious minority like us but that does not mean this will fail. Hordes of idiots will flock to it still.

From what I understand Stadia doesn't "just work" though. Besides that, and more importantly, the pricing model is off. I take your point that people generally don't care about quality however, Stadia seems to have not gotten it right on anything. That is, the only way it really works is to use it the same way you would use a console, so whats the point? I think the average dumbfuck would agree here.

 

[Steamboat Willie]

From what I understand Stadia doesn't "just work" though. Besides that, and more importantly, the pricing model is off. I take your point that people generally don't care about quality however, Stadia seems to have not gotten it right on anything. That is, the only way it really works is to use it the same way you would use a console, so whats the point? I think the average dumbfuck would agree here.

I hope that's the case. I mean it's possible that the quality is so shit that even Joe Dicksuck trying to play Madden at his house party while drinking Bud Light out of a Solo cup realizes that it's shit, but I hold these people to very low standards.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

From what I understand Stadia doesn't "just work" though. Besides that, and more importantly, the pricing model is off. I take your point that people generally don't care about quality however, Stadia seems to have not gotten it right on anything. That is, the only way it really works is to use it the same way you would use a console, so whats the point? I think the average dumbfuck would agree here.

I hope that's the case. I mean it's possible that the quality is so shit that even Joe Dicksuck trying to play Madden at his house party while drinking Bud Light out of a Solo cup realizes that it's shit, but I hold these people to very low standards.

Well its difficult to find a flattering review, even the positive reviews are tempered with some criticism. Granted I haven't played it myself so I can't say how bad it is. I expect its bad as I do Cloud gaming through AWS (frequent stutters, lag, etc etc), but not bad enough to put most people off and depends on the game. Anyway, like I say, the issue here is the pricing. You are paying twice what you would a console (Stadia + service fees + the game) to do something you can already do with a console. Stadia reportedly only works hardwired through a chrome cast (consensus is the game anywhere seems to be a totla lie) which is pretty similar to how you would play an Xbox, now bring quality into the mix (also multiplayer doesn't work) and its hard to make an argument of where the benefit is.

 

[Valky]

To me, it's not about even the positive reviews containing criticism. What I have seen so far is even the critical reviews are being nice and holding back. Even the critical reviews are written with the implied tone that this is just a minor setback and stadia WILL work, and that it IS the unstoppable future. That to me is the most harmful thing about this all, that even if it is doing poorly the reviewers are all seeing it as something to improve on instead of fuel for the fire to shut this shit down forever like it should be. NO ONE has the testicles to publicly state that stadia is a horrible idea and should have been aborted.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Well, I somewhat agree. A lot of people are mesmerized by Google bullshit I guess and are afraid to speak up about it, and most reviews are far too kind. However I do find a lot of damning reviews.
I mean, even Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidt...aunch-was-a-disaster-whats-next/#30a527061158

 

[baud]

Psst, hey want to have an actual good idea instead of this stadia cancer? Remote desktop access software that you own a license of and install on your personal hardware, allowing you to then stream to your devices from your personal hardware, which you own your games on.

Or, rent a DaaS instance in the Cloud, buy a game, install it and stream it to your local machine/phone/whatever. Thats basically Stadia but it cuts out the middle man.
I do this so I can play games at work - run the DaaS client in a browser and bingo.

Yeah great. Can you see the average dumbfuck even understanding what you just wrote? They want something simple they can turn on and game for an hour whilst the wife puts the screaming kids to bed. This average dumbfuck doesn't even know what input lag is. They just want to pay a sub every month, push a button to turn something on and shoot zombies in the face. It may not stand up to scrutiny for the prestigious minority like us but that does not mean this will fail. Hordes of idiots will flock to it still.

From what I understand Stadia doesn't "just work" though. Besides that, and more importantly, the pricing model is off. I take your point that people generally don't care about quality however, Stadia seems to have not gotten it right on anything. That is, the only way it really works is to use it the same way you would use a console, so whats the point? I think the average dumbfuck would agree here.

The issue with the last two generation of console is that you have to go through upgrade the console firmware, install the game, install any patch/DLCs (a bit like PC games). So even then Stadia still has an advantage on how long it takes between starting the console and starting to play.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Psst, hey want to have an actual good idea instead of this stadia cancer? Remote desktop access software that you own a license of and install on your personal hardware, allowing you to then stream to your devices from your personal hardware, which you own your games on.

Or, rent a DaaS instance in the Cloud, buy a game, install it and stream it to your local machine/phone/whatever. Thats basically Stadia but it cuts out the middle man.
I do this so I can play games at work - run the DaaS client in a browser and bingo.

Yeah great. Can you see the average dumbfuck even understanding what you just wrote? They want something simple they can turn on and game for an hour whilst the wife puts the screaming kids to bed. This average dumbfuck doesn't even know what input lag is. They just want to pay a sub every month, push a button to turn something on and shoot zombies in the face. It may not stand up to scrutiny for the prestigious minority like us but that does not mean this will fail. Hordes of idiots will flock to it still.

From what I understand Stadia doesn't "just work" though. Besides that, and more importantly, the pricing model is off. I take your point that people generally don't care about quality however, Stadia seems to have not gotten it right on anything. That is, the only way it really works is to use it the same way you would use a console, so whats the point? I think the average dumbfuck would agree here.

The issue with the last two generation of console is that you have to go through upgrade the console firmware, install the game, install any patch/DLCs (a bit like PC games). So even then Stadia still has an advantage on how long it takes between starting the console and starting to play.

Ok, yes. But this is the only value proposition, and its really dependent on the system actually working in the first place. Having said that, its trivial to accomplish a similar thing with AWS, etc as these services save and restores state (https://aws.amazon.com/appstream2/)

 

[DalekFlay]

How do you persuade someone to give up their rights? Make it convenient and easy to do for them.

That and exclusive content they can't get elsewhere. Make no mistake, these streaming/subscription services will eventually be filled with games you can't play (legally) any other way, just like Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ are for movies and shows.

 

[Valky]

How do you persuade someone to give up their rights? Make it convenient and easy to do for them.

That and exclusive content they can't get elsewhere. Make no mistake, these streaming/subscription services will eventually be filled with games you can't play (legally) any other way, just like Netflix, Amazon and Disney+ are for movies and shows.

Absolutely. The end goal of these services are the death of selling own-able copies of game licenses, as we all pay for now, and only having the ability to buy a subscription to temporarily access the game. Steam and other store exclusives locked to drm tied to a client for example are halfway there.

 

[Volokard]

Most people complain about the technical problems such as internet speed as their main reason to thrash Stadia. I think that's just a temporary issue and it doesn't matter much now as it will improve in the future. Some countries already have amazing internet speeds. What I really, really dislike is just games being a service that you have to keep paying for in order to play them. It's like paying for each bite of a sandwich as you are eating it.

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/e1mnh2/omg_thank_you_google/

 

[Tehdagah]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/e1mnh2/omg_thank_you_google/

If Google fixed the issues then maybe I will try it.

 

[Whipped Cream]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/e1mnh2/omg_thank_you_google/

I was curious whether that post was made by a Google sock puppet account or a real person, so I checked out his profile. What I found was pretty hilarious.

 

[Steamboat Willie]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/e1mnh2/omg_thank_you_google/

Those comments are insufferable. Every fucking user on that shithole website is the most normalfag waste of skin imaginable.

 

[Whipped Cream]

I feel kind of mean for posting lots of pictures of someone's post history like this, but these two posts were just too funny.

Two months later: "Man, Stadia is going to be awesome!"

 

[Steamboat Willie]

People used to be ashamed of stuff like that and kept quiet about it. Fucking all degenerates now.

 

[Alienman]

Astroturfing for fleshlights and Stadia, interesting combo.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

That's "Yakubian Devil" to you, Mr. Minority.

Are redguards being Yokudans merely a coincidence?

 

[Alienman]

 

[The_Sloth_Sleeps]

Codex is doing a good job!

 

[Havoc]

Codex is doing a good job

 

[fantadomat]

Nice job!

 

[Lutte]

If Steam released a similar streaming service where you'll be able to play the games from your library AND play them locally if you so desire... That would end all of them

That's what Geforce NOW does, the Nvidia streaming service. It's been in beta for around 2 years in its current state, but it lets you play your Steam games through their Nvidia Shield android box or a PC if you're registered in the beta. I've had it for a couple of years and it's a shitload better than I'm reading about Stadia. Mind you, I don't play degenerate online games like Destiny 2 on it though.

I tried it a few times by curiosity and it indeed works rather fine for what it is, and certainly better than the videos I've seen of people showing input lag on Destiny+stadia.
NVIDIA also brings real performance to the table :
https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2019/08/19/geforce-now-pc-gaming/

At our GPU Technology Conference earlier this year, we announced RTX Servers. Starting today, we’re beginning their rollout. Gamers in Northern California and Germany will be the first to take advantage of GeForce RTX performance. Over time, we’ll expand to our data centers throughout North America and Europe, enabling next-generation gaming in the cloud.

A far cry from the medium settings performance of stadia. Between that and the way GFNow works (bring the games you already own for real instead of buying something you may not be able to access in the future) there's just no comparison.

Unfortunately, as bad as Stadia is, it's a google product so it's going to see a ton of shilling no matter how bad it is compared to even other streaming alternatives. And I don't think NVIDIA is going to really compete on that front, the beta seems like something they do to test their cloud infrastructures more than a real project to commercialize it. Competing for users against Google, Microsoft and Sony also seems difficult.

 

[DeepOcean]