Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

[Leitz]

Cleve hardcoded the version number that shows up in the game until whatever patch was after 1.2.0.1. 1.2.0.1 still shows it as 1.0 in game. If you've never uninstalled and reinstalled the game, it's likely that you have either 1.0 or 1.2.0.1 depending on when you bought the game. If you want to get adventurous and start updating the game now, BACKUP YOUR ENTIRE GRIMOIRE DIRECTORY FIRST.

Can you please expand on that. I have just played around and now want to really get into the game. Should I wait for a stable version?

 

[Sodium]

Spoiler

Is the Mechanical Egg supposed to work at the Eyrie nest?

No, it goes somewhere else.

Spoiler

use it on the mashine you got it from in the museum

another spoiler

use the toy wol you get from it on the eyrie nest

 

[Sodium]

How do I call the turtle?

turtle

you dont call it, you need to find it behinde a secret wall.

 

[Viata]

So, I'm at the Chamber of the water, do I have to swim here or what?
Edit: Wow, that was a suicide part. At least party increased their swimming skills.

 

[biggestboss]

From what I've gathered, 1.2.0.1 is the most stable version (at least for me). It's the version I have backed up in a separate folder so that when I test drive Cleve's latest patches and they break something, I copy 1.2.0.1 back over the directory and it's playable again.

This time however, I have gone all in and I'm just starting a brand new game in 1.2.0.7. Speaking of which, the Sanctuary origin area is very intriguing and way different than whatever other one I did (the default one).

 

[mondblut]

A phrase that helps with NPCs that you suspect have quests for you is "Can we help you"

Nope, whenever I type "Can we help you" NPCs will respond only "I will try to help" or "I am ...", so only to the words help or you.

Smithers reacts properly to "can we help you", everyone else interprets it as either "help" or "you".

 

[mondblut]

So what are some of the essential phrases for talking to NPCs? I wanna know how to get quests.

MindRead spell is your best bet.

Obviously "rumors" makes them tell you about rumors.

They give the same generic non-response to it. Could have been "It ain't Wizardry 7 guys, try harder" just as well.

 

[mondblut]

Another little semi-exploit - when you found an Arcana spellbook and try to scribe it, it often increases your Arcanum skill even if you failed (and you'll fail a lot even with Read Magic up). That way you can grind Arcanum to some 40-60 values for everybody until someone finally scribes it. They will also get stark raving mad, but it will go away after a little sleep.

 

[mercyRPG]

GRIMOIRE MANUAL DOWNLOAD

ALL KNOWLEDGE & TIPS from the Grimoire gameplay and hints thread:

v1.0: until page 21, contains very minimal story spoilers/solutions.

Download link click here

 

[Viata]

I feel like I'm lost here, I did the burial, gave the ashes back to that big face and now I don't know where to go.

 

[Sacred82]

Oh fuck... The backer items are absolutely overpowered. 6D8 lance, robe that has better AC than my best metal armor etc... Cleve clearly isn't a big fan of balancing his shit.

I would seriously consider avoiding them if you don't want to break your game.

speaking of items, do weapons and armor ever do cool shit other than more base damage/ better AC?

 

[Zep Zepo]

There is like 3 or 4 times as many flowers/powders as there are interesting weapons.

Like I said, pretty boring.

Zep--

 

[mondblut]

speaking of items, do weapons and armor ever do cool shit other than more base damage/ better AC?

Necrostaff (from the lich) drains health. Funny, it doesn't say how much base damage it has though.
Poison daggers cause poisoning obv. Poison darts ditto. Shurikens have high crit chance.
Lead balls sometimes knock unconscious. Maybe some other blunt weapons too.
Caliburnus has some fireball charges, probably should be "used" as a wand to make them though?

 

[Eofol]

I feel like I'm lost here, I did the burial, gave the ashes back to that big face and now I don't know where to go.

Samhain Waterworks. There's a turtle you have to find through a suicidal path:

Spoiler

Stand at the pier, turn right. move two tiles, then turn right again, two tiles again. Then click on the wall to reveal a secret. A turtle will be waiting for you. Ride it around and you'll eventually find a teleporter. Ill let you take it from there.

Necrostaff (from the lich) drains health. Funny, it doesn't say how much base damage it has though.
Poison daggers cause poisoning obv. Poison darts ditto. Shurikens have high crit chance.
Lead balls sometimes knock unconscious. Maybe some other blunt weapons too.
Caliburnus has some fireball charges, probably should be "used" as a wand to make them though?

Indeed, the maces such as ball and chain and some polearm weapons like the Moonsomth- you get from the perk chests.
Also I'm stating the obvious, but there's a lot of arrows with varying effects such as sleeper, incendiary and such.

 

[Viata]

So, is there any secrets on those four(five) pillars near a black stone(or whatever) in Samhain? I have done everything in this place, but that. Don't know here to go.

 

[Ent]

Do you lose stats for changing class in this game? Its the only thing that annoyed me in Wiz 6+7

 

[Zep Zepo]

Do you lose stats for changing class in this game? Its the only thing that annoyed me in Wiz 6+7

I think you lose "levels"...I don't recall losing any stats.

So if you're like level 10 and reclass, you drop to level 5 or 6 or something.

Zep--

 

[Biggus]

Cleve hardcoded the version number that shows up in the game until whatever patch was after 1.2.0.1. 1.2.0.1 still shows it as 1.0 in game. If you've never uninstalled and reinstalled the game, it's likely that you have either 1.0 or 1.2.0.1 depending on when you bought the game. If you want to get adventurous and start updating the game now, BACKUP YOUR ENTIRE GRIMOIRE DIRECTORY FIRST.

Can you please expand on that. I have just played around and now want to really get into the game. Should I wait for a stable version?

I don't know that stability is the biggest (of many) issue(s). Balance is so broken in so many ways, it is kinda hard to reconcile.

 

[mondblut]

Do you lose stats for changing class in this game? Its the only thing that annoyed me in Wiz 6+7

Unless it was finally redesigned to be more viable, yes, you do. And your xp requirements remain as they were, making you a first level guy with reset stats and a million xp till level 2. So it only made sense to change into prestige classes with very high requirements all across the board (even then you'll lose on some stats they don't use).

I plan to eventually grind my necromancer into assassin, and maybe switch saurian berserker to pirate as they share all dump stats. But no unrestrained multiclassing for everyone, alas.

 

[Danthar]

Choose "imprisoned" start, and you'll appear in Crowl prison that lies beyond that grate. No way to open it from the other side.

Basically made a new account (had an account 7+ years ago but system doesn't remember or it's from an archaic email address) specifically to ask if there are any other starts that cannot be accessed unless you start there?
Any more on-way gates? I am specifically wondering about Sanctuary since Cleve hinted you need something from there to wield a powerful weapon later, but not sure if it's only available there.

If the prison is all I will 100% make my real start there so I don't miss anything.
(It has a very nice chest with high level loot.)

And a second question: Does the difficulty setting work correctly? I am not having any problems on Advanced (middle difficulty of 5) and actually seem to have an easier time than many others, judging from reports and let's plays.
Then again, I did pay attention during char creation and I am quite experienced in turn-based combat.

(Also, having Drakes and Saurians and unequipping their starting weapons (1d4) for 3d4 claw/tail/bite is a big help at the start.)

Thanks a lot, been reading a lot here since the game came out, have seen many helpful explanations already!!

 

[Giant Dwarf]

for a bunch of races you can unequip the starting weapon for a better claw/bite/tail attack (sometimes with poison). of course, this doesn't level up any weapon skills (but will level up the hand-to-hand skill) so figure out for yourself if/when you want to use it.

 

[Baff]

On NPC phrases, they say "Duroch'Mal", but they only respond to "Duroch Mal" if you say it back to them. Also some NPC has a typo and says "Durloch'Mal".

Another NPC calls someone Lord Cagliostro. That is not their actual name, it is a derogative comment. Cagliostro means poseur, faker.

 

[Giant Dwarf]

Choose "imprisoned" start, and you'll appear in Crowl prison that lies beyond that grate. No way to open it from the other side.

Basically made a new account (had an account 7+ years ago but system doesn't remember or it's from an archaic email address) specifically to ask if there are any other starts that cannot be accessed unless you start there?
Any more on-way gates? I am specifically wondering about Sanctuary since Cleve hinted you need something from there to wield a powerful weapon later, but not sure if it's only available there.

If the prison is all I will 100% make my real start there so I don't miss anything.

I think you won't get the owl statue unless you start at the shrine, but all it really gives you is access to an area with a pool that cures various diseases and a place that identifies items for you (limited amount)

 

[biggestboss]

Started a new game and Aeorb's race power is incredible. The Sanctuary intro surprised me because I thought it was going to be easier but you start out in Crowl right away.

 

[Baff]

Choose "imprisoned" start, and you'll appear in Crowl prison that lies beyond that grate. No way to open it from the other side.

Basically made a new account (had an account 7+ years ago but system doesn't remember or it's from an archaic email address) specifically to ask if there are any other starts that cannot be accessed unless you start there?
Any more on-way gates? I am specifically wondering about Sanctuary since Cleve hinted you need something from there to wield a powerful weapon later, but not sure if it's only available there.

Every starting area has something unique to it, some are better than others though. See Dexter's list on the previous page.