Grimoire gameplay and hints thread

[Lady_Error]

If there is no spell for that, then there is no item for that either.

 

[Gunnar]

The invoked effects are simply spells in items. The best spells are also the best invoked effects.

And as far as I know, the stats (the Invocation skill mostly) have only an influence on the success of invoking. The strength of the invoked spell is hard-wired into the item.

Is there an item that casts Deadly Blades or something sufficiently good? I can see invoking being a great skill if you can reliably pop off 100% spells without any need for int, wis, wil, mana or the spell skill.

 

[Lady_Error]

I haven't seen items with Arcanum or Eldrtich spells, but there are some with the highest level Necromantic spells.

Actually, a good question would be if invocations happen faster in combat than spellcasting, similar to music instruments. I haven't used invocation in a long time either, so I cannot answer that.

 

[Gunnar]

Actually 'use' action in combat appears to happen in normal sequence. So with recharge spell, this makes invoking work somewhat like gadgeteer.

 

[Lady_Error]

Yeah, if you want to land a spell quickly in a difficult fight, invoking actually makes sense then.

 

[Sonic Titan]

So I’ve successfully cleared out Aquavia and the Catacombs. I’ve combined the Royal Seal necklace (that I pickpocketed from Smithers after charming him) and King’s Crest to make King Loogmor’s Royal Seal (I think that’s the name?).

Oh and I beat the Jackalope, what a “nice” surprise that fight was until I realize it was vulnerable to charm as well.

Not entirely sure if there’s anything left to do in Crowl at this exact moment so my plan is to brave the Gardens of Midknight next. Unless of course I’ve missed some things?

 

[Efe]

how do you buy xp at shrines?

 

[Gunnar]

how do you buy xp at shrines?

You need to find an item.

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It's hidden in the Tomb of Doom.

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You need to bring it to the Theosophist Lodge.

 

[Efe]

meh. im trying to open the door in george's.
guess i cant use robbery to boost multiclasses faster thought i struck gold with robbery 100 when i got hearth skillbook selling for 37k

 

[Lady_Error]

Buying XP is really for the second half of the game. And it's 1 XP for 1 gold, so those 40k wouldn't even give you much.

Better save that money for the armor and weapons you can buy in Kublai Axis.

 

[Gunnar]

I was able to keep stealing the same items over and over again from some NPCs. And there are some who can't get mad at you so you can just steal their whole inventory, come back and do it again with a minimal investment in robbery. You can even sell them back the stolen items. I didn't really see the point. Robbery seems to only be good for lifting key items.

 

[Efe]

step 1: click steal, hold enter 3 seconds.
step 2: sell items 15 seconds. (~50k)
step 3: goto step 1
at 1 to 1 conversion this would be an extremely high amount of xp at this point in the game.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

step 1: click steal, hold enter 3 seconds.
step 2: sell items 15 seconds. (~50k)
step 3: goto step 1
at 1 to 1 conversion this would be an extremely high amount of xp at this point in the game.

I don't know how you can live with yourself stealing from the wholesome, innocent and earnest NPCs of Hyperborea like this. I guess the money makes it worth your while.

 

[Efe]

they were asking for it, flaunting keys on their person and carrying valuables on their person.
Lady Error error how do i get to kublai axis?

 

[Gunnar]

at 1 to 1 conversion this would be an extremely high amount of xp at this point in the game.

The thing about buying levels with gold is that you can only do it once at each shrine.

 

[Efe]

1 level or 1 purchase?

 

[Lady_Error]

Lady Error error how do i get to kublai axis?

Just keep playing and you'll get there. You need to finish the first 20% of the game to get to the open world part.

The thing about buying levels with gold is that you can only do it once at each shrine.

Which is why it is a good idea to mark all shrines on the maps - there aren't that many of them.

1 level or 1 purchase?

At each shrine you can buy one level for one character once.

 

[Efe]

what do i do with all this gold (or any gold?), donate to crowl's crippled thugs charity?
i need to translate this into some form of staying power because this multiclassing bullshit has left me with very weak magic.
i cant even increase magic skills because i (hopefully correctly) assume i wont be able to use litany with necro after class change.

 

[Lady_Error]

Buy stuff from NPC's, especially better armor and weapons if they have them.

Multiclassing actually helps increasing magic skills much faster. And why wouldn't you put points into Litany as long as you have a Cleric? This has nothing to do with multiclassing, but your choices.

Are you even sure you will reach the Necro requirements at around Level 7 or 8 with the Cleric?

 

[Efe]

its not a cleric. if i increase magic skills for every class i would be wasting hell a lot of skill points.
took it from your discussions in one of grimoire discussions.
party is this:
4x Drow Metalsmith - WARRIOR - BERSERK - RANGER - ASSASSIN swapped to warrior after 6 metalsmith. these guys cant do anything right. lethal blow <30. magic skills between 15-25. at least they get to use magic skill except during warrior.
2x Wolfin RANGER - THIEF - BARD - CLERIC - SAGE - these are still rangers at lv7
2x Feyfolk THIEF - BARD - CLERIC - SAGE - THAUM - NECRO - switched to bard at lv6. one is 100 robbery other 100 inspection. starting putting points in arcanum since its usable by all.

that two wolfins are my everything. they kill (100 weapon skill and lethalblow). they heal (works with 0 skill). they scout, etc and get 2-3x skill points drows get. have 30+ scribe and slowly increasing.
feys pick locks and rob merchants and nothing else.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

meh. im trying to open the door in george's.

The Tomb of St. George? Opening it

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requires a special item you get from completing another quest.

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The person who bestows the key is deceased.

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His remains are obtained from an area ruled by another person who is deceased yet alive.

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The Lich in the Inner Sanctum of the Cenotaph, who yields

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Mistral's remains, which can be

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laid to rest in the Catacombs or resurrected.

 

[Jazz_]

So I've defeated the Samhain Horror at last, but now what? There's a weird locked gate when you take the teleport in that area, how do I open it? I also have the mechano owl but I dunno its purpose/use.

 

[mondblut]

4x Drow Metalsmith

Why?

I could get having one as some freakish larper's whim, but four?? Did you not get the memo that humans and drow in this game don't exist?

 

[mondblut]

So I've defeated the Samhain Horror at last, but now what? There's a weird locked gate when you take the teleport in that area, how do I open it? I also have the mechano owl but I dunno its purpose/use.

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Set the bird free high in the avian mountains. That place where you're told about breathtaking sights down below, I think. Or was it at the nest the giant egg came from? Then wait for a while.

 

[Lady_Error]

at least they get to use magic skill except during warrior.

You can always use magic skills, even during Warrior.

Also, if you start without spellcasters you will have a rough first part of the game - which will only get easier due to the multiclassing.