Grimoire Thread

[Grampy_Bone]

Can we assume that is the guy who banned Quantomas because he oppressed trannies on the pathfinder VG forums?

Yep, that's the guy.

Can you define "oppressed"?

Pointing out objective truths

 

[mwnn85]

Zee Germans are at it again...

30% is completely derogatory. Puts it firmly into the "complete shit" tier.



Whether you agree/disagree about the general state of the gameplay - GRIMOIRE is better than this.
1 week of closed group testing could've ironed out the worst of it.
Cleve should've known better - a lot of us here have been playing games since the Spectrum Tape, C64, Amiga, etc.
Some of the numbers need some tweaking.
Some of the illogical things need overhauling.
More polish - just because the game is meant to resemble games from yesteryear doesn't mean it has to function like one.

I've found the game to be mostly stable. Never seen the black screen bug. Play in windowed mode.
Played a bit of v1; a few early gamebreakers were found, waited till that was solved.
v1.201 was regarded as stable - played some more.
Lots of changes and quick version changes in this period. v1.207 was meant to be stable - decided to restart but lost my saves in the fiasco.
Restarted from 1.2x.
The next update is looking like a big'un.

The large scale of GRIMOIRE makes it an awkward game to update.
You don't expect to put 20 hours or more into a large game like this and have the game mechanics change mid way through a playthrough or run into a gamebreaker.

 

[mogwaimon]

Well I was away for a while but I'm more worried about the DRM breaking something somewhere than the DRM itself. I own plenty of games with Denuvo or other DRM schemes so I'm not worried about the DRM itself.

Though, Tigranes, I am exactly the kind of person who likes to wait for a game to be 'complete' before I play it. Nothing bothers me more than when I begin a game only to hear the day after that it's getting some sort of Enhanced Edition, or some sort of big expansion. It's part of why I dropped my XCOM 2 run, it's why I dropped my first Divinity OS attempt, and others. I'm just a little neurotic like that.

 

[Tigranes]

Well I was away for a while but I'm more worried about the DRM breaking something somewhere than the DRM itself. I own plenty of games with Denuvo or other DRM schemes so I'm not worried about the DRM itself.

Though, Tigranes, I am exactly the kind of person who likes to wait for a game to be 'complete' before I play it. Nothing bothers me more than when I begin a game only to hear the day after that it's getting some sort of Enhanced Edition, or some sort of big expansion. It's part of why I dropped my XCOM 2 run, it's why I dropped my first Divinity OS attempt, and others. I'm just a little neurotic like that.

If you know you have an extreme case of FOMO, then sure, there's no question, wait it out as you would have with WL2 or whatever.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

You may get a .pdf manual when/if Cleve himself figures out how things work. Either he wrote the code so long ago he forgot the language it was written in and had to re-learn it (not easy when you're 53, I assume) or it was a collective effort at Sir-Tech and he had to figure out pieces of code written by other people (again, not trivial). You're free to give it an ETA.

That's an ugly slur against my game, coward - guys like you would never have the guts to say such a thing if there were any kind of repercussions. If you have nerve you'd print your full name to stand behind a slur like that but you're not a man, just a boy.

As soon as I have the time to organize it, I will be serving a takedown notice on this kind of crap and ask Codex to turn over your IP for legal prosecution. You think you are beyond the reach of any law but when your parents are forced to sell their house for legal damages you'll be crying mascara tears out the other side of your face.

Accuse me of IP theft sure, you better be prepared to back that up in court. I've got a lawyer and he just got a link to your post. Watch the mail soon itz coming. He tells me he can move on all this stuff as soon as I can give him a little advance.

 

[Chamezero]

...You're fucking dead, kiddo

 

[PhantasmaNL]

Can we assume that is the guy who banned Quantomas because he oppressed trannies on the pathfinder VG forums since "community manager" popped up?

This guy should not write reviews.

Right now he is probably focussing on making Pathfinders UI as LGBQT1!1 friendly as possible.

I hope this game tanks.

 

[DashiDMV]

I think you missed the last sentence of my previous post.

Assumptions are a sign of extreme stupidity. :D

Can we assume that is the guy who banned Quantomas because he oppressed trannies on the pathfinder VG forums since "community manager" popped up?

This guy should not write reviews.

Right now he is probably focussing on making Pathfinders UI as LGBQT1!1 friendly as possible.

I hope this game tanks.

It's funny when people on steam are saying they won't buy the game until the see more "professional reviews". This is today's games media where the actual game comes last and agendas come fist. If you lined up 10 games journalists and 10 people who meet every wednesday at the local Glory Hole, there would be 0 difference.

There will be no fair shakes for Cleve. He doesn't play by their rules so 30/100 is like a badge of honor. Reading a games review today is like reading an article from the Onion but at least the Onion has a punchline.

If the words of this guy, some dudebro on you tube or a slant agenda website truly discourage someone from buying Grimoire, then Grimoire probably wasn't the right game for them anyways.

 

[Biggus]

Zee Germans are at it again...

30% is completely derogatory. Puts it firmly into the "complete shit" tier.



Whether you agree/disagree about the general state of the gameplay - GRIMOIRE is better than this.
1 week of closed group testing could've ironed out the worst of it.
Cleve should've known better - a lot of us here have been playing games since the Spectrum Tape, C64, Amiga, etc.
Some of the numbers need some tweaking.
Some of the illogical things need overhauling.
More polish - just because the game is meant to resemble games from yesteryear doesn't mean it has to function like one.

I've found the game to be mostly stable. Never seen the black screen bug. Play in windowed mode.
Played a bit of v1; a few early gamebreakers were found, waited till that was solved.
v1.201 was regarded as stable - played some more.
Lots of changes and quick version changes in this period. v1.207 was meant to be stable - decided to restart but lost my saves in the fiasco.
Restarted from 1.2x.
The next update is looking like a big'un.

The large scale of GRIMOIRE makes it an awkward game to update.
You don't expect to put 20 hours or more into a large game like this and have the game mechanics change mid way through a playthrough or run into a gamebreaker.

I think 30% is a little light on and I agree with everything you say... with one exception.

1 week of beta testing or 1 decade, wouldn't make a whit of difference. I was a beta tester in the 90s. Cleve did not listen then and clearly has not listened in the interim. The obvious flaws, the ones that we all told him had to be fixed, he simply ignored, because he knew better.

He is listening now though, so maybe he can pull it off. I hope he can, but I certainly wouldn't be betting on it. I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

1 week of beta testing or 1 decade, wouldn't make a whit of difference. I was a beta buttplug tester (fixed) in the 90s. Cleve did not listen then and clearly has not listened in the interim. The obvious flaws, the ones that we all told him had to be fixed, he simply ignored, because he knew better.

Phil Moore you are without question the most pathetic, pretentious swayback croissant eating meat-beating retard in the history of Australia. Listen, do you think maybe I had a few more important things on my mind to deal with like trying to get 8-way motion correct that I could not respond to your request for cock rings and optional butt plugs added to all player portraits?

Can Phil Moore get an UNDISPUTED QUEEN OF FAGGOTRY tag? It would be perfect.

 

[Wehraboo]

Speculations like that on a project that was vaporious for decades and seemed like it may not be released is one thing. People still keeping on with shit like that when he has made good every promise a thousand times over with the thundering hosts of heaven lifting him up into the sky is something only the most pathetic loser would dream of, and now that he's trying in earnest to sell the game it's actionable libel that can lead to serious award of damages. Oh, you don't have a lawyer? Well let's see what's fair then. Dragon Age, a similar game with a dozens times more manpower, made x million dollars. Counsel finds grimoire has apparently been defamed to around x/100 dollars in degree, plus legal fees of course. Oh and Mr. Blakemore, here are the papers for executing a lien on the defendant's mom's house.

 

[PhantasmaNL]

Cleve any details and possibly an eta on the next patch?

 

[mwnn85]

Can Phil Moore get an UNDISPUTED QUEEN OF FAGGOTRY tag? It would be perfect.

I'm sure it seemed like a perfectly normal video to film before the LSD wore off.

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

Can Phil Moore get an UNDISPUTED QUEEN OF FAGGOTRY tag? It would be perfect.

I'm sure it seemed like a perfectly normal video to film before the LSD wore off.

C R I N G E__F A C T O R__I S__O V E R__9 0 0 0

This is what Australians think is cool alongside muscle cars that are actually Pintos with fake turbocharger vents glued to the hood and sunglasses with gigantic porno handlebar moustaches​

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

I just noticed that Phil's video comes up alongside all parody videos on YouTube.

PHIL DIDN'T MEAN IT AS A PARODY​

 

[Banana Smuggler]

You may get a .pdf manual when/if Cleve himself figures out how things work. Either he wrote the code so long ago he forgot the language it was written in and had to re-learn it (not easy when you're 53, I assume) or it was a collective effort at Sir-Tech and he had to figure out pieces of code written by other people (again, not trivial). You're free to give it an ETA.

That's an ugly slur against my game, coward - guys like you would never have the guts to say such a thing if there were any kind of repercussions. If you have nerve you'd print your full name to stand behind a slur like that but you're not a man, just a boy.

As soon as I have the time to organize it, I will be serving a takedown notice on this kind of crap and ask Codex to turn over your IP for legal prosecution. You think you are beyond the reach of any law but when your parents are forced to sell their house for legal damages you'll be crying mascara tears out the other side of your face.

Accuse me of IP theft sure, you better be prepared to back that up in court. I've got a lawyer and he just got a link to your post. Watch the mail soon itz coming. He tells me he can move on all this stuff as soon as I can give him a little advance.

Add an issue countdown to your signature.

 

[Zep Zepo]

[Expert-Sex-Change]
[Recent Posts]

How do I access and use a DLL from my 20 year old program? Asking for a friend...

CMB

Zep--

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

[Expert-Sex-Change]
[Recent Posts]

How do I access and use a DLL from my 20 year old program? Asking for a friend...

CMB

Zep--

Zep, how do you tell the difference between your wife's face and an impacted colon? They look identical to me.

 

[Zep Zepo]

[Expert-Sex-Change]
[Recent Posts]

How do I access and use a DLL from my 20 year old program? Asking for a friend...

CMB

Zep--

Zep, how do you tell the difference between your wife's face and an impacted colon? They look identical to me.

That the best you got? You really are having a meltdown.

Zep--

 

[Zorba the Hutt]

Friday at last...

 

[Cleveland Mark Blakemore]

This guy at RPS seriously suggested that Grimoire players have not really been enjoying the game despite it's unpolished state and that they are only pretending to like it. This guy thinks his opinion is credible anywhere after the revelations of GamerGate. Any magazine anywhere on the planet that would hire this guy after the nepotism revealed at his magazine in GamerGate would be a money laundering front that was just looking for a ringer to sit in the head office.

Remember IT has a mother and SHE thinks that is adorable. Remember that.

 

[covr]

I don't care about reviews or fucking manuals, just release that patch so I could start a full pirate party. Swimming on the HMS Sea Turtle.

 

[Drog Black Tooth]

The Wikipedia article is a riot.

GameStar reviewer Sascha Penzhorn described the game as "ugly", "unfinished", "low-quality", "counter-intuitive", "buggy", "terribly balanced", "lame", "broken", "lacking atmosphere", and "hostile to its users" while criticising the absence of voice acting in dialogues and the lack of a German translation. In summary, he stated that "Grimoire deserves no pity just because it's an indie game", awarding a score of 30/100. However, he also mentioned that the game may receive another review once the manual comes out and the game balance has been adjusted.[11][12]

Rock, Paper, Shotgun writer Alec Meer posted an article covering his attempt to write a review, which he said failed due to the game's "grind, the desperately cumbersome user interface or the sound that makes me want to throw my speakers into the sea", its "timelost inaccessibility", and its lack of alt-tab support.[2] Due to the difficulty in taking screenshots, the article was partially illustrated with promotional images, and the game had to be restarted due to updates making savegames unusable. The article, while noting that Grimoire "successfully creates the illusion of an enormous world filled with mysteries and secrets", came to the conclusion that the core design elements of the game were "monstrously wrong-headed", "desperately cumbersone", "arduously clicky", "doggedly DOSian", "hideously drawn-out", "crazily tough", "hateful", and comparable to mental torture.[2] Senior editor John Walker wrote a sidebar to the article, observing that some players who claimed to be enjoying Grimoire were being dishonest: "You’d imagine on receiving a game like Grimoire, such a small group of people would be spending their spare time gleefully devouring its 600 hours of joy, rather than policing the internet to berate anyone who doesn’t enjoy the game properly. It’s almost as if it’s not quite occupying their time…"[13]

Writing for Motherboard, Leif Johnson's concluded that "There's little doubt that Grimoire fills a niche that hasn't been filled in a while, and I know I'm part of the demographic he's aiming for. In my old age, though, I've realized I don't have time for this kind of punishment anymore."[3] One point touched on by many publications covering the game was the lack of any manual or documentation included, which, combined with an interface considered to be obtuse, led to many reviewers having difficulty figuring out how to play the game.

Ain't nothing you can do about it, Cleveland Mark Blakemore, these are all professional reviews and they're the only kind that's going to be cited.

 

[mwnn85]

I remember reading the 92% Deus Ex Invisible War review by Kieron Gillen years ago in PC Gamer, accompanied by lots pictures of Kieron dressed up as a mime.

Needless to say I don't pay too much attention to what Rock Paper Shotgun post about.

Exception granted to Tim Stone.

 

[groke]

criticising the absense of voice acting in dialogues