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Guild Wars 1

Lacrymas

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The achievement was unreasonable before the dailies. Yeah, sure, the dailies make it possible for basically anyone, but the old method required like 170,000 deaths to do it. As for survivor, there are only 4 or 5 people in the world that currently have the last rank. Iirc, 3 Mesmers, 1 Necro and 1 Ranger. So I wouldn't say it's entirely pussified. On top of that, survivor and LDoA were mutually exclusive before the dailies.
 
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As for survivor, there are only 4 or 5 people in the world that currently have the last rank.
Where did you get this information? I got the first rank of survivor on my Necromancer without even trying while farming. Max rank is essentially doing that ~12 times. With intent, it wouldn't be hard, just incredibly tedious.

Or do you mean in pre?
 
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Legendary survivor is actually a very fun achievement if you're getting it by doing full clears of the games rather than just farming it. I did it on several characters. Bit cancerous if you're doing it with players though and warping out of fights that go bad. With Heroes/Henchmen levels are pretty predictable though.
 

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i love this game but keep failing this one damn mission something goes wrong every time whether it's my dumbass henchmen pulling extra groups or some patrol running into me from behind and it's frustrating because the mission is long af and wipe = lose all progress

what happens is some enemy group somehow gets like 3 healers and i can't out dps the heals so my whole team eventually just dies
 
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Yeah that's a pretty early one so its just L2P. Enemy monks do have a bit of an extended radius in which they'll search for things to heal so be mindful of that when pulling.
 
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What's the mission?
it's this one
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Frost_Gate

i'm sure I'm just doing something wrong but yeah what happens is somehow multiple groups get pulled and I wipe then I don't touch the game for like 2 months and when I eventually come back to give it another go I get wiped again :/
Are you pulling using your Henchmen? It is better IIRC to pull by yourself using a bow (being careful to pull isolated groups only ) while flagging your henchmen behind you, then running back to your group. This is what i usually did, because often henchies would overextend and enters in aggro range of other groups, or attack them
 

Dr1f7

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What's the mission?
it's this one
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Frost_Gate

i'm sure I'm just doing something wrong but yeah what happens is somehow multiple groups get pulled and I wipe then I don't touch the game for like 2 months and when I eventually come back to give it another go I get wiped again :/
Are you pulling using your Henchmen? It is better IIRC to pull by yourself using a bow (being careful to pull isolated groups only ) while flagging your henchmen behind you, then running back to your group. This is what i usually did, because often henchies would overextend and enters in aggro range of other groups, or attack them
I need to learn how to tell my henchmen to stay still, cuz as soon as I attack anything they run straight in and I think that's what causes wipes many times

What's the mission?
it's this one
https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/The_Frost_Gate

i'm sure I'm just doing something wrong but yeah what happens is somehow multiple groups get pulled and I wipe then I don't touch the game for like 2 months and when I eventually come back to give it another go I get wiped again :/
Do you want some help?
I can bring my monk, my first character that I loved to play in Prophecies...

thanks bros but I wanna do the main missions solo, maybe I'll group when I get to hard mode stuff and high level things :)
 
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Get used to flagging your henchmen group a bit behind you while you pull, then unflag them as you're running back and the enemy comes at you. I don't recall if there are hotkeys for flags by default but it not then bind them to something you like so its easy to use.

Also pull with a longbow/flatbow, it has the best range.
 

volklore

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Watch a random video about this game on youtube and it reminded me how good it was and how much of disappointment GW2 was.
Almost makes me want to play it again. It's been so long I forgot pmuch everything except I really enjoyed playing curse N/Mesmer. Also remember doing solo runs of UW on a Warrior/Mes loadout I figured out myself then.
Good times.
 

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Yeah, one of the best games of all times, easily top 10. I put 2k+ hours into it and I regret that I didn't spend more time.
Nothing today comes even close.



 
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Lacrymas

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Watch a random video about this game on youtube and it reminded me how good it was and how much of disappointment GW2 was.
Almost makes me want to play it again.
You can play it again, there are enough people even in pre-Searing.
 

Maxie

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Watch a random video about this game on youtube and it reminded me how good it was and how much of disappointment GW2 was.
Almost makes me want to play it again.
You can play it again, there are enough people even in pre-Searing.
he doesn't want to play it, just wants to get street cred from being old
by the time gw2 was released gw1 was already a mmoified slog due to zaishen shit
 
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Watch a random video about this game on youtube and it reminded me how good it was and how much of disappointment GW2 was.
Almost makes me want to play it again.
You can play it again, there are enough people even in pre-Searing.
he doesn't want to play it, just wants to get street cred from being old
by the time gw2 was released gw1 was already a mmoified slog due to zaishen shit
Lol wut? Zaishen shit just gives you extra cash if you want it. Has nothing to do with the core game.
 

Maxie

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Watch a random video about this game on youtube and it reminded me how good it was and how much of disappointment GW2 was.
Almost makes me want to play it again.
You can play it again, there are enough people even in pre-Searing.
he doesn't want to play it, just wants to get street cred from being old
by the time gw2 was released gw1 was already a mmoified slog due to zaishen shit
Lol wut? Zaishen shit just gives you extra cash if you want it. Has nothing to do with the core game.
i remember where did the general population's attention shift once it was introduced, you look at it anachronically
 

Lacrymas

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The main problem with Guild Wars 1 was a philosophical one that was relatively painless to fix. Namely the expansions that introduced 2 professions each along with new skills for all professions. That wasn't sustainable, but the solution was simple - severely cut down on that.
 

wideman

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i remember where did the general population's attention shift once it was introduced, you look at it anachronically
where did it shift?

I kind of remember ZQuests being introduced shortly after EOTN. When everyone was anyway farming dungeons and setting speed records for elite missions. There was quite a gap between new players and 'vets' in terms of wealth and activity hotspots. Zaishen was introduced to flatten the curve. There was at least one mission and dungeon per day that saw player interest. In addition you could get decent rewards to finance your way up to GWAMM
 
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Zaishen is good, it concentrates the population on a mission/area area of the day. Without it 98% of outposts would be completely dead 100% of the time.

Sure people are doing it for extra rewards but all GW1 rewards past your first 50 hours of play are pretty much cosmetic anyway so who cares. It'd be convenient if there was a way to get those superior runes of holding without grinding but we played for years with standard inventory size so get used to it.
 

Lacrymas

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I played GW in its "last days" before GW2 came out and I don't remember the Zaishen stuff being a problem. I actually think it was beneficial because they incentivized doing the missions again and that made for livelier mission hubs.
 

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