Honest Opinion on Half-Life 2

[JDR13]

Well, okay, I know I'm really butthurt right now, so I'm not surprised you don't get it. In a way one could say I'm the human equivalent of anal sex without lube. Because I'm so butthurt that you ask the question which is entirely the point of what I'm saying, that Valve didn't make shit games despite the crap being said about them in this thread. But Halfwit Retardeo seems to think he knows what he's talking about so like valve sux amirite

It's ok little buddy. It'll go away over time. I promise.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

You're seeing it that way because of what's being said of the non-game-making Valve that exists now, but the only thing special about Valve's situation then is that it resulted in Half-Life. They didn't make a Blood 2. So none of what you're saying even matters.

Er... what does Valve have to do with Blood 2?

Well, okay, I know you're Just a Dumb Retard, so I'm not surprised you don't get it. In a way one could say you are the human equivalent of Blood 2. Because you're so retarded that you ask the question which is entirely the point of what I'm saying, that Valve didn't make shit games despite the crap being said about them in this thread. But Halfwit Retardeo seems to think he knows what he's talking about so like valve sux amirite

Could you stop having internet arguments with yourself please? You're taking what people say and twisting it into something totally different.

Valve is run like a high school drama club and seriously under uses it's resources, potential and time. Despite this they very rarely release very high quality and enjoyable games. If they were run better we would have the same quality but more games from them. Which is why it annoys people Valve is run so poorly.

Posted from my Steam Deck.

 

[Morenatsu.]

You're seeing it that way because of what's being said of the non-game-making Valve that exists now, but the only thing special about Valve's situation then is that it resulted in Half-Life. They didn't make a Blood 2. So none of what you're saying even matters.

Er... what does Valve have to do with Blood 2?

Well, okay, I know you're Just a Dumb Retard, so I'm not surprised you don't get it. In a way one could say you are the human equivalent of Blood 2. Because you're so retarded that you ask the question which is entirely the point of what I'm saying, that Valve didn't make shit games despite the crap being said about them in this thread. But Halfwit Retardeo seems to think he knows what he's talking about so like valve sux amirite

Could you stop having internet arguments with yourself please? You're taking what people say and twisting it into something totally different.

Valve is run like a high school drama club and seriously under uses it's resources, potential and time. Despite this they very rarely release very high quality and enjoyable games. If they were run better we would have the same quality but more games from them. Which is why it annoys people Valve is run so poorly.

Posted from my Steam Deck.

Do you think all 90s PC games were made by shit companies who didn't know what they were doing? I'm just taking your barely thought out opinions to their logical conclusions. Valve, who were no worse than other developers, being run like shit = all developers are shit. All developers are shit, but still made good games = it doesn't matter whether the company is shit, it still gets results. Valve doesn't make games anymore because they are a shit company = error, divide by retard

It's true you didn't 'say' that, but it's what what you said actually means. And that means you're a literal minded moran (no different from most Codexers). Besides, it's just whiny and stupid to complain about Valve in such a way when they did quite literally nothing to hurt you. You can say that 'maybe' their management is mistaken, but to insult them, not just as they are now, but as they were then, when you don't even know what the problem actually is, nor can you do anything about it, why don't you just get a life, and some sense. It's not worth being a dumb bitch out of frustration over a missing sequel.

Posted from your mom.

 

[JDR13]

This idiot can't even use the quote function properly....

 

[Morenatsu.]

This idiot can't even use the quote function properly....

what do you mean

 

[Silverfish]

Do you think all 90s PC games were made by shit companies who didn't know what they were doing?

Oh, I'm sure there were one or two exceptions.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

It's true you didn't 'say' that, but it's what what you said actually means. And that means you're a literal minded moran (no different from most Codexers). Besides, it's just whiny and stupid to complain about Valve in such a way when they did quite literally nothing to hurt you. You can say that 'maybe' their management is mistaken, but to insult them, not just as they are now, but as they were then, when you don't even know what the problem actually is, nor can you do anything about it, why don't you just get a life, and some sense. It's not worth being a dumb bitch out of frustration over a missing sequel.

Valve did nothing to hurt me? I've been waiting for Episode 3 for way too fucking long. And while I was waiting they fucked the industry immensely with early access (Minecaft did this before Valve, but Valve made it a common thing) and loot crates. Loot crates that ruined TF2 with it's bullshit constant weapon unlocks.

Why do you feel the need to defend Valve so hard? It's not exactly a secret they bring in immensely talented teams, finish up their projects then get stuck in the Valve swamp and never release anything again. Portal, L4D, Team fortress and Counter strike all suffer from this and that's not counting the games that are outright gone like Day of defeat, Death match classic and the tron clone we shall not name.

 

[Morenatsu.]

It's true you didn't 'say' that, but it's what what you said actually means. And that means you're a literal minded moran (no different from most Codexers). Besides, it's just whiny and stupid to complain about Valve in such a way when they did quite literally nothing to hurt you. You can say that 'maybe' their management is mistaken, but to insult them, not just as they are now, but as they were then, when you don't even know what the problem actually is, nor can you do anything about it, why don't you just get a life, and some sense. It's not worth being a dumb bitch out of frustration over a missing sequel.

Valve did nothing to hurt me? I've been waiting for Episode 3 for way too fucking long. And while I was waiting they fucked the industry immensely with early access (Minecaft did this before Valve, but Valve made it a common thing) and loot crates. Loot crates that ruined TF2 with it's bullshit constant weapon unlocks.

Why do you feel the need to defend Valve so hard? It's not exactly a secret they bring in immensely talented teams, finish up their projects then get stuck in the Valve swamp and never release anything again. Portal, L4D, Team fortress and Counter strike all suffer from this and that's not counting the games that are outright gone like Day of defeat, Death match classic and the tron clone we shall not name.

Episode Two needs a sequel, the rest don't. Like why would you even mention DMC and Ricochet, for the meme?

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

It's true you didn't 'say' that, but it's what what you said actually means. And that means you're a literal minded moran (no different from most Codexers). Besides, it's just whiny and stupid to complain about Valve in such a way when they did quite literally nothing to hurt you. You can say that 'maybe' their management is mistaken, but to insult them, not just as they are now, but as they were then, when you don't even know what the problem actually is, nor can you do anything about it, why don't you just get a life, and some sense. It's not worth being a dumb bitch out of frustration over a missing sequel.

Valve did nothing to hurt me? I've been waiting for Episode 3 for way too fucking long. And while I was waiting they fucked the industry immensely with early access (Minecaft did this before Valve, but Valve made it a common thing) and loot crates. Loot crates that ruined TF2 with it's bullshit constant weapon unlocks.

Why do you feel the need to defend Valve so hard? It's not exactly a secret they bring in immensely talented teams, finish up their projects then get stuck in the Valve swamp and never release anything again. Portal, L4D, Team fortress and Counter strike all suffer from this and that's not counting the games that are outright gone like Day of defeat, Death match classic and the tron clone we shall not name.

Episode Two needs a sequel, the rest don't. Like why would you even mention DMC and Ricochet, for the meme?

Because I played them and I liked them. I wanted to see Valve do more than jack off to hentai games.

 

[AlwaysBrotoMen]

One of the greatest games of all time

Lol i misread the thread as half life 1

 

[Hagashager]

I played HL2 before HL1 and greatly enjoyed it at the time. There're parts of HL2 I still really love. Alyx and Eli are good characters, and the visual style of City 17 is really memorable for me. Very few games capture that particular flavor of mist-shrouded oppression.

That said, HL1 is on another level. I don't think HL2 is a very good shooter. It's not that *fun*. Half Life 1 is still fun and plays like a fantastic shooter. I also find HL1's atmosphere infinitely more engrossing than HL2. If very few games do seaside fog very well, even fewer games do alien-invasion/disaster scenarios well.

I'm of the mind Valve should have gone the Final Fantasy route for Half Life whereby themes are similar but not necessarily in the same universe. Have each game explore different variations of "Mad Science Gone Wrong" and "Everyman versus existential threat", but with a different protagonist and setup. Gordon Freeman and the constant allusions to Black Mesa do not help the story, they hinder it.

 

[Lemming42]

I'm of the mind Valve should have gone the Final Fantasy route for Half Life whereby themes are similar but not necessarily in the same universe. Have each game explore different variations of "Mad Science Gone Wrong" and "Everyman versus existential threat", but with a different protagonist and setup. Gordon Freeman and the constant allusions to Black Mesa do not help the story, they hinder it.

Yeah, the premise for HL2 seems kind of weird as well - Gordon went to Xen and destroyed the Nihilanth in HL1 and... it did nothing, and Earth was lost to alien forces about two minutes later. Sort of undercuts HL1 since nothing you do in it matters much in retrospect. Sacrificing yourself and either dying at the hands of the Alien Grunt army or becoming G-Man's servant is cool if you saved Earth in the process, less cool if it was for basically no reason.

HL1 feels almost impossible to make a direct sequel to, given the way it ends. Obviously any story that follows Gordon after he enters the G-Man's employ will just come across as kind of crap, since the only options are either set it on Earth and say that something terrible has happened to Earth (in which case you get HL2), or have Gordon deployed to various far-flung alien worlds, in which case the franchise turns into a pretty typical sci-fi shooter with only HL1 being especially interesting.

The idea of having thematically similar games in different universes is interesting. I guess you could kind of perceive games like Unreal and Red Faction as being spiritually similar to Half-Life, in that they're about a random man/woman who unwillingly ends up trapped in an exotic sci-fi location during a deadly situation that's rapidly deteriorating all around them.

 

[Morenatsu.]

Yeah, the premise for HL2 seems kind of weird as well - Gordon went to Xen and destroyed the Nihilanth in HL1 and... it did nothing, and Earth was lost to alien forces about two minutes later. Sort of undercuts HL1 since nothing you do in it matters much in retrospect. Sacrificing yourself and either dying at the hands of the Alien Grunt army or becoming G-Man's servant is cool if you saved Earth in the process, less cool if it was for basically no reason.

half-life is all about unforeseen consequences bro like thats the point lmaowut

 

[Lemming42]

Laidlaw was so committed to that theme that he gave fans who expected an FPS game the unforeseen consequence of having to listen to Eli and Alyx's family drama while locked in a room.

 

[seco]

Didn't we have this conversation a few times already?

Is it me getting older and jaded or Half-Life 2 is one of the worst shooters?​

Yet Another Half-Life 2 Discussion

Half life 2​

What kind of mental illness is this?
Literrally rent free behavior.

 

[seco]

I found lemming faggy review
https://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php?msg=5236248

 

[Morenatsu.]

What kind of shit website is that?

 

[Lemming42]

It's a dying comedy forum. I wanted to write about FPS games, and I had a choice of like five different dying forums including this one, so I chose the one with the fewest neo-Nazis. I was gonna do it on SomethingAwful since they have a big FPS thread, but that would have meant a lot of interacting with SomethingAwful users, which I'm just not emotionally equipped for.

Btw does anyone know of a way to get HL2 to run on the original version of the Source engine it used in 2004? I really hate the update from 2007 or whenever it was, the new lighting just looks awful, especially on character models.

 

[Morenatsu.]

That's really your post? It's unbelievably shit.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

HL1 feels almost impossible to make a direct sequel to, given the way it ends. Obviously any story that follows Gordon after he enters the G-Man's employ will just come across as kind of crap, since the only options are either set it on Earth and say that something terrible has happened to Earth (in which case you get HL2), or have Gordon deployed to various far-flung alien worlds, in which case the franchise turns into a pretty typical sci-fi shooter with only HL1 being especially interesting.

Black Mesa wasn't the only place hit by the alien portals. Gordon is sent back in time to the start of the day to deal with another Xen + something else threat. Remember HL1 has 2 'sequel's and one greatly expands the universe.

Laidlaw was so committed to that theme that he gave fans who expected an FPS game the unforeseen consequence of having to listen to Eli and Alyx's family drama while locked in a room.

Makes both HLs really rough to play. I don't care how much you like HL1, the intro is fucking painful now. Tram ride is too long and then you're in the test chamber for almost as long doing nothing. Both were great on a first play through but now you want to skip them as fast as possible and get to the gameplay.

It's a dying comedy forum. I wanted to write about FPS games, and I had a choice of like five different dying forums including this one, so I chose the one with the fewest neo-Nazis. I was gonna do it on SomethingAwful since they have a big FPS thread, but that would have meant a lot of interacting with SomethingAwful users, which I'm just not emotionally equipped for.

Btw does anyone know of a way to get HL2 to run on the original version of the Source engine it used in 2004? I really hate the update from 2007 or whenever it was, the new lighting just looks awful, especially on character models.

You don't want to deal with the social justice motherland!? You racist biggoted faggot!

You can tell steam to download older game versions. Google it.

 

[Morenatsu.]

You can't tell steam to download older game versions that old. It only goes back to 2013. Don't Google it.

 

[Lemming42]

Black Mesa wasn't the only place hit by the alien portals. Gordon is sent back in time to the start of the day to deal with another Xen + something else threat. Remember HL1 has 2 'sequel's and one greatly expands the universe.

Not a bad idea but then it runs the risk of the Xen aliens turning into a joke who get their asses beat by Gordon Freeman over and over again on the same day. Like there's a Gordon in Black Mesa repelling them there, while future-Gordon is simultaneously at their other invasion point also kicking their asses and making fools of them.

You can tell steam to download older game versions. Google it.

It doesn't go back to the pre-Ep2 update sadly. I've looked around but all I can find is a mysterious yet alluring mega.nz file which promises to revert HL2 to the original engine.

 

[Halfling Rodeo]

Black Mesa wasn't the only place hit by the alien portals. Gordon is sent back in time to the start of the day to deal with another Xen + something else threat. Remember HL1 has 2 'sequel's and one greatly expands the universe.

Not a bad idea but then it runs the risk of the Xen aliens turning into a joke who get their asses beat by Gordon Freeman over and over again on the same day. Like there's a Gordon in Black Mesa repelling them there, while future-Gordon is simultaneously at their other invasion point also kicking their asses and making fools of them.

You can tell steam to download older game versions. Google it.

It doesn't go back to the pre-Ep2 update sadly. I've looked around but all I can find is a mysterious yet alluring mega.nz file which promises to revert HL2 to the original engine.

I don't see the issue with Gordon dealing with Xen, it's not like they weren't already slightly comedic. There's also just not using Gordon again. Shepard was proven to be a solid alternative any way. HL2 wanking off Gordon so much is a massive problem with the games writing. While he did a lot, most of the people seeing him doing it ended up brutally killed either by him or something he didn't kill fast enough. Black mesa was a bloodbath and almost no one survived but here's the entire HL1 cast back.

Talk to the speed running trannies. They have to have a way.

 

[Morenatsu.]

HL2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gearboxlife

 

[Lemming42]

Up until Xen, Gordon just sort of manages to survive various near-death scenarios. It's only when he gets to the Lambda base that he becomes like some kind of massive swinging dick figure who goes rushing into the borderworld alone. Probably the most impressive thing he does prior to Lambda Core is taking out the Blast Pit tentacle or the Power Up Gargantua.

As for the Gearbox lore, it is definitely weird. Barney doesn't really do anything (except survive a short trip to Xen) and as for Shepard... I dunno what's going on with Race X at all, or what the Gene Worm was, or if any of that is really canon.

Yeah the weirdest thing in HL2 is Eli being alive. Like, he was literally in the Sector C labs, how the fuck did he get out. Was he just like ten seconds behind Gordon the whole game. I guess Laidlaw's answer would probably be that G-Man whisked him to safety for some nefarious reason (I can't remember what the plot of Ep2 is with regards to Eli and G-Man, so if it's exactly that, then fair enough).