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Interview Immortal NPCs and no child killing in Fallout 3

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Morbus said:
The graphics are incredibly weak. I think that's the reason why they don't show anything about the game. Once people see it running they won't want to buy it just because of the graphics, and if FOE has no graphics I don't know what it has... It. Will. Tank.

I wouldn't say they're incredibly weak... but they're not great either. Textures especially, they look washed up. The art direction isn't good either, at least judging from screenshots. If it wasn't for Vaultboy popping up here and there I'd be hard to tell it's a Fallout game. But what I am saying? Most people don't give a shit about art direction; as long as the bloom and fx cause seizures the game is gonna rawk the sale charts. :D
 

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So what? Modders will fix everything. I belive that "Real Fallout Mod with Chrysalis Higwayman, Killable Children, Not-So-Orky-Looking Supermutants, No-Mindless-Zombie Ghouls, Random Encounters & Missing Perks" is just a matter of time...

There's not gonna be any level editor or SDK. No SDK, no mods. We're out of luck.
 

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Mareus said:
Herbert West said:
HAIL MARTIN SEPTIM! THE IMMORTAL GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND! SITTING IMMOBILE BETWEEN TWO TREES FOR TEN THOUSAND YEARS, NEITHER LIVING NOR DEAD BUT STILL WATCHING OVER US!

Well you could always get him stuck between the trees. Thats worse faith than death :lol:

There, fixed it for you :wink:
 

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sorry to pop your bubble guys, but this game is going to sell really well, and we all know it. :?

Yeah and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Pretty sad state of affairs.

So what? Modders will fix everything. I belive that "Real Fallout Mod with Chrysalis Higwayman, Killable Children, Not-So-Orky-Looking Supermutants, No-Mindless-Zombie Ghouls, Random Encounters & Missing Perks" is just a matter of time...

Modding can only go so far and mostly with superficial details. The underlying game ruleset and mechanics will still be there.
 

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fastpunk said:
Lothers said:
So what? Modders will fix everything. I belive that "Real Fallout Mod with Chrysalis Higwayman, Killable Children, Not-So-Orky-Looking Supermutants, No-Mindless-Zombie Ghouls, Random Encounters & Missing Perks" is just a matter of time...

There's not gonna be any level editor or SDK. No SDK, no mods. We're out of luck.
You mean, we're in luck. If there's an SDK, then you can be sure FO3 will sell even more. Hell, some of the Beth-hating crowd will buy it. And we sure don't want that.
 

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The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.
It's a weak hope, yet something is better than nothing.
 
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Unradscorpion said:
The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.
It's a weak hope, yet something is better than nothing.

Nah...he'll just bust out a bunch of jokes about the "crazy" fanbase because he's really not all that talented.
 

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fastpunk said:
Lothers said:
So what? Modders will fix everything. I belive that "Real Fallout Mod with Chrysalis Higwayman, Killable Children, Not-So-Orky-Looking Supermutants, No-Mindless-Zombie Ghouls, Random Encounters & Missing Perks" is just a matter of time...

There's not gonna be any level editor or SDK. No SDK, no mods. We're out of luck.

Are you kidding me? :shock: In that case FUCK this game, I won't buy it and tell everybody to do the same...
 

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Not on the disc, they said. Oblivion's was released on the Internet.
 

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Hopefully it will tank. That might even show the developers thatl show that dumbing down isn't the way.

No, if a game takes it piracies fault, nothing to do with mediocre design. Games are infinitely better designed nowadays than they used to be haven't you seen the graphics?
 

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pretty much the only promising bit is about dialogues
6) Would you take us through a hypothetical dialog tree that demonstrates the typical choices made available to the player?

I don't have enough space to really do that. They are big. If you look at Fallout 1, it's deeper than that. To give you the scale, we have over 40,000 lines of dialogue, compared to a few thousand in Fallout 1.
Usually we start a conversation with an NPC with some flavor from the player, kind of the "how do you want to act towards this person?" Are you going to be nice, direct, polite, an ass? We cover it all. Some of my favorite player responses are simply "<Say>", and playing the silent type. But probably my favorite opening is the first time you talk to a Ghoul, one of the choices is "Gah! What the f*#$ are you?"

Depending on the character, there's usually a list of common questions about him or the town/area you are in. If it's quest related, it can get pretty deep with that character, as most have different paths to how you handle them. You can also use your Speech skill to persuade, and sometimes special dialogue options come up based on other stats, whether that is strength when talking to a tough guy, or options that come from perks you may have.

This however sounds way too much like oblivion wiki:
"Depending on the character, there's usually a list of common questions about him or the town/area you are in."
 

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Eh, I had a hard on, but now it feels like it's cold outside and the lake I just climbed out of has shriveled my manhood back to the size of a child. I don't think Viagra will make this any better either. /sigh
 

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In Fallout's German version they removed the children so you don't kill them by accident. They also removed all violent deaths but one.

I was happy about that and felt protected; if I had to witness such evil scenes I know I would become like the boil of corruption that festers in normal people.
 

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Unradscorpion said:
The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.

Not sure about that, since I read somewhere the game will be banned in Australia.
Cant remember where I got that info right now tho...
 

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God damn... You ask Vince for an example of the dialogue and he shows you how complex and over-arcing it is. Then a month, week, or day later someone else asks him and he uses another example twice as complex.

You ask Bethesda and "Well, see it's so good that we can't even show it to you. It's just too complicated. It's like showing you a fragment of that famouse painting, you know it? It just wouldn't do us justice because we're brilliant. But the painting has colors, and stuff that paintings have. And our dialogue has that stuff, too. So it's good, trust us."
 

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I for one am glad that the government tells what is and what isn't good for me. The Soviet symbols are evil and corrupting, they are banned, simple.
 

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So, we're doomed I guess.
Everybody will buy it and Bethesda will make more FO3 sequels that will be even more dumbed down.
You'll have older console kiddies talking about how much the original FO3 was hard and how newer games are having less 'real' RPG traits.
 

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IlkuWarrior said:
Unradscorpion said:
The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.

Not sure about that, since I read somewhere the game will be banned in Australia.
Cant remember where I got that info right now tho...
Hm today I read news that FO3 is banned in Australia because player can take morphine(?) and other drugs. But violence is ok.
 

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Unradscorpion said:
The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.
He will oversleep, just like he did with Oblivion.
Besides, Codex has much more power than this British-Ausie prick. And we can do nothing about FO3 apart from drinking beer and waiting for the rain of shit (which the game will be)
 

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Black_Willow said:
Besides, Codex has much more power than this British-Ausie prick.

Did you have both a Tequila Sunrise AND a Sex on the Beach too tonight?
 

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Black_Willow said:
Unradscorpion said:
The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.
He will oversleep, just like he did with Oblivion.
Besides, Codex has much more power than this British-Ausie prick. And we can do nothing about FO3 apart from drinking beer and waiting for the rain of shit (which the game will be)
It does?
You need to appreciate a good RPG to enjoy Codex, while for Yahtzee you just need to dig British accent.
If Yahtzee is a FO fan he will criticize it for something that morons will care about stopping them from buying the game, which we aren't able to do. We might have great and logical arguments, but there is no way in hell you can get masses to care for them.
Yahtzee should strike into the heart of the game, the graphics and 'fun', possibly immersion.
We cannot do that as we find other things in the game more amiss.


But there is no FO3 for Australia so we're screwed anyways.
 

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Tails said:
IlkuWarrior said:
Unradscorpion said:
The only person who could stop the game from success now is Yahtzee.

Not sure about that, since I read somewhere the game will be banned in Australia.
Cant remember where I got that info right now tho...
Hm today I read news that FO3 is banned in Australia because player can take morphine(?) and other drugs. But violence is ok.

Its because our classifications board is so hilarious fucking out of date for video games, its basically never been updated sinces its induction and as a result a lot of stupid shit like this happens. Its not a question of the game being banned rather that it gets ''unrated' which means that they aren't allowed to sell it in the shops. Not that this is a major blow anyway as buying games in Australia fucking sucks and everything is insanely overpriced for no goddamn fucking reason.

Seriously you're looking at $100 for a new release title, vaguely understandable when the Aussie dollar was worth about .70 U.S cents, but these days the exchange rate is as near to equal as makes no odds, so its just fucking price gouging. Hence why all Australians buy online or pirate (which takes forever because we have the internet of a 3rd world nation)
 

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But there is no FO3 for Australia so we're screwed anyways.

Nah, it won't be banned. They'll just have to censor the Australian edition.

If Yahtzee is a FO fan he will criticize it for something that morons will care about stopping them from buying the game, which we aren't able to do. We might have great and logical arguments, but there is no way in hell you can get masses to care for them.

You do realize Yahtzee hates RPGs?
 

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Lothers said:
So what? Modders will fix everything..

Yeah like modders fixed Oblivion. It's been 2.5 years and Oblivion is still the same pile of shit like it was at the day of release. You can't fix one of the most retarded game designs.
 

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