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World of Darkness It is time: Baldur's Gate 3 vs Starfield

Which is the greatest RPG of our times?

  • Baldur's Gate 3

  • Starfield

  • If I knew this would be the choice in 2023, I would have cut my throat with a broken CD back in 90s

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FA7

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Shooters are not RPGs, therefore Starfield is not eligible for the title. BG3 maybe just greatest RPG of 2023 until something else releases.
 

VerSacrum

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BG3 is actually fun in spite of all the faggots. It also corrects the eldritch abomination that is RtWP being automatically associated to TTRPG adaptations/cRPGs in general in the mind of normies. DoS1/2 already started it but a high profile DnD game being TB will hopefully be the last nail on the RTwP coffin.

Oblivion 4 : in space ''returning to our hardcore RPG roots'' is just another sad Beth game.
Agreed. I dislike the current day stuff in BG3, I dislike most of the companions. But there were a lot of cool moments - a lot of reactivity to my player class, or things like blowing my cover in the goblin camp and suddenly finding myself in a Mines of Moria scenario, defending a small room against a Goblin horde. Ketheric Thorm was a good antagonist. My enthusiasm went away after the conclusion of that act and I dropped the game for now, but I'll probably pick it up again when the game is sufficiently patched and modded (Baldur's Better Aesthetics was a good start and as far as I know he isn't done with it yet).

I had planned to give Starfield a try, but everything I've seen about this game so far put me off.
 

Butter

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Serious question: does Starfield even deserve to be nominated for GOTY at this point? I would put BG3, TOTK, Dave the Diver, Armored Core 6, RE4 Remake and Pikmin 4 as my GOTY nominees.
It's as much an RPG as nu-Tomb Raider.
 

copebot

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Honestly these two games might be what gets me to quit gaming. I didn't think this would ever happen to me, but it is just such a bad experience to get home, have like 2 hours to play a game, and to have most of that time taken up by stultifying woke dialogue or loading screens. I already quit movies and TV shows a couple decades ago and have not missed either of them.
 

Gamezor

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I doubt I'm going to play either one because I know I can't get over the wokeness. I am sort of proud of this but on balance more secretly jealous of everyone who can ignore it because BG3 in particular sounds interesting. If you had told me in 2000 that bg3 would be basically a gay porn game I would never have believed you. If you had told me after that nearly 20 years after Oblivion we'd have a sequel with basically no NPC AI and shopkeepers who never move or sleep and don't actually have anything in their shops (which is super immersion breaking), and the NPCS are still hideous, I would never have believed you. The whole thing is depressing.

I guess I'm also disappointed in this board that you guys are so damn thirsty for anything that even looks like an RPG that you'll play the gayest and wokest crap just to have something to play. Surely there are old classics or other games you have not played than these right? I don't see how people in my age cohort can stand it. And I was liberal for most of my life and would feel the same way even if I still was.
 
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I guess I'm also disappointed in this board that you guys are so damn thirsty for anything that even looks like an RPG that you'll play the gayest and wokest crap just to have something to play. Surely there are old classics or other games you have not played than these right? I don't see how people in my age cohort can stand it. And I was liberal for most of my life and would feel the same way even if I still was.
You find amusement in the decline where you can. It isn't like the industry is going to get any better regardless, given the direction that society over all has gone anyways.
 

Gamezor

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I guess I'm also disappointed in this board that you guys are so damn thirsty for anything that even looks like an RPG that you'll play the gayest and wokest crap just to have something to play. Surely there are old classics or other games you have not played than these right? I don't see how people in my age cohort can stand it. And I was liberal for most of my life and would feel the same way even if I still was.
You find amusement in the decline where you can. It isn't like the industry is going to get any better regardless, given the direction that society over all has gone anyways.
You are 100% right and I'm jealous of people who can do this since my attitude about it is not going to make a bit of difference. I think my breaking point was probably uglier Aloy in HZD 2. The first game was a bit woke anyway, but with #2 enough is enough.
 

Serious_Business

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I doubt I'm going to play either one because I know I can't get over the wokeness. I am sort of proud of this but on balance more secretly jealous of everyone who can ignore it because BG3 in particular sounds interesting. If you had told me in 2000 that bg3 would be basically a gay porn game I would never have believed you. If you had told me after that nearly 20 years after Oblivion we'd have a sequel with basically no NPC AI and shopkeepers who never move or sleep and don't actually have anything in their shops (which is super immersion breaking), and the NPCS are still hideous, I would never have believed you. The whole thing is depressing.

I guess I'm also disappointed in this board that you guys are so damn thirsty for anything that even looks like an RPG that you'll play the gayest and wokest crap just to have something to play. Surely there are old classics or other games you have not played than these right? I don't see how people in my age cohort can stand it. And I was liberal for most of my life and would feel the same way even if I still was.
That is some emotional shit boyo. Depressed and dissapointed. Need someone to hold you hand? I can feel your prude and sensitive soul, disgusted by the impurities of your contemporaries, lamenting a more simple and natural time, when men were men, etc. As if you weren't constantly thirsting for rape, incest and pillaging, you degenerate fuck. You won't make me believe you're a moral 70 years old woman depressed and bitter because you can't cum anymore. What the fuck are you even going on about with this woke shit? You sleeping too much?
 

Gamezor

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I doubt I'm going to play either one because I know I can't get over the wokeness. I am sort of proud of this but on balance more secretly jealous of everyone who can ignore it because BG3 in particular sounds interesting. If you had told me in 2000 that bg3 would be basically a gay porn game I would never have believed you. If you had told me after that nearly 20 years after Oblivion we'd have a sequel with basically no NPC AI and shopkeepers who never move or sleep and don't actually have anything in their shops (which is super immersion breaking), and the NPCS are still hideous, I would never have believed you. The whole thing is depressing.

I guess I'm also disappointed in this board that you guys are so damn thirsty for anything that even looks like an RPG that you'll play the gayest and wokest crap just to have something to play. Surely there are old classics or other games you have not played than these right? I don't see how people in my age cohort can stand it. And I was liberal for most of my life and would feel the same way even if I still was.
That is some emotional shit boyo. Depressed and dissapointed. Need someone to hold you hand? I can feel your prude and sensitive soul, disgusted by the impurities of your contemporaries, lamenting a more simple and natural time, when men were men, etc. As if you weren't constantly thirsting for rape, incest and pillaging, you degenerate fuck. You won't make me believe you're a moral 70 years old woman depressed and bitter because you can't cum anymore. What the fuck are you even going on about with this woke shit? You sleeping too much?
I WILL NOT ALLOW YOU TO SLANDER INCEST
 

random_name

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BG3 has set the standard of every companion from now on being bisexual. Every RPG game that doesn't do that from now on will be considered retrograde. Enjoy your new era of RPGs.
 
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rubinstein

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Heartbroken!

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if this is "more real" according to the writing team, then i can only imagine what they must have gone through prior to writing such compelling romances.
 

Vyadhis

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I doubt I'm going to play either one because I know I can't get over the wokeness. I am sort of proud of this but on balance more secretly jealous of everyone who can ignore it because BG3 in particular sounds interesting. If you had told me in 2000 that bg3 would be basically a gay porn game I would never have believed you. If you had told me after that nearly 20 years after Oblivion we'd have a sequel with basically no NPC AI and shopkeepers who never move or sleep and don't actually have anything in their shops (which is super immersion breaking), and the NPCS are still hideous, I would never have believed you. The whole thing is depressing. I guess I'm also disappointed in this board that you guys are so damn thirsty for anything that even looks like an RPG that you'll play the gayest and wokest crap just to have something to play. Surely there are old classics or other games you have not played than these right? I don't see how people in my age cohort can stand it. And I was liberal for most of my life and would feel the same way even if I still was.
BG3 is typical over sexed degeneracy mixed with a mediocre game. Yes, there's plenty of wokeness but Starfield is literally a future where white people don't exist and everyone is hideous/of color/non-binary. Its the SJW's wet dream.

I would go as far as to say these two are the worst of the "GOTY bait" games to come out this year.
 

Lord_Potato

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My floppy disk drive is broken so I couldn't play either
Starfield, coming to your home on 107 142 floppies!

Can't be assed doing the maths. We talking 8, 5.25 or 3.5" (1.44MB) here??
I just divided 150 GB (that's approx what Gamepass tells me the game needs) by 1,4. Sure, I could be more precise, but 200 or 300 disks this way or another wouldn't really spoil the joke :)
 

KeighnMcDeath

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Did Larian hire a bunch of steam & itchio programners. I was looking for Natuk thinking it was on itchio and I was hit with THIS!
 

Sarathiour

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if this is "more real" according to the writing team, then i can only imagine what they must have gone through prior to writing such compelling romances.
Did you thought that the "seven cuck squad " was a joke and not an apt description of reality ?
 

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