Game News Jagged Alliance 2 - Reloaded Ditches Turn-Based Combat

[GarfunkeL]

I really cannot understand how they can think that line-of-sight is a difficult concept to understand.

 

[Awor Szurkrarz]

Fucking Xenos .

 

[jagged-jimmy]

I really cannot understand how they can think that line-of-sight is a difficult concept to understand.

WHER HE COME FROM!!!11one I CHECKZOR ALL MAP AN IT WAS FREEE NOAW SOEME CHEATS SPAWNS DUDES EVARYWHE WAT IS GOAING ON I DONT UNERSTND THIS WTF LOLLOLOLO

 

[zeitgeist]

And now they ditched the name too. At least partially. It's JA: Back in Action now.

 

[hoverdog]

moar liek back in fagshion, amirite?

 

[Darth Roxor]

Back in Realtime Action.

 

[Shannow]

http://www.rpgwatch.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12521

Finally found a game where the Watch sounds a lot like the codex.

 

[zeitgeist]

I'm probably the only one who still sporadically checks out that almost-dead board, so here's the latest dev post:

My last information is that no changes from the original Jagged Alliance 2 are planed to characters and equipment

Merchs will be equiped (and skilled) AS IN JAGGED ALLIANCE 2!
No changes.
So everyone who - like you - has played JA2 will find every Merch as YOU EXPECT them.
Balancing might change, but the Characters will not.

cheerz
Jochen

ps: Every member of the Dev team HAD to play both JA2 as well as most mods.

 

[MetalCraze]

Merchenaries?

 

[zeitgeist]

Merchenaries?

Apparently there's some confusion among the German-speaking population regarding what "merc" actually means. I recently even found them listed as "merchants" here for example: http://www.ja2.de/wf/en/merchants.html

 

[sgc_meltdown]

Merchenaries?

Apparently there's some confusion among the German-speaking population regarding what "merc" actually means. I recently even found them listed as "merchants" here for example: http://www.ja2.de/wf/en/merchants.html

Well they are merchants, are they not? Merchants of death?

Very serious research on my part via google translate gives Merchant as 'Kaufmann' in german, which in turn is variously translated as

1. merchant
2. businessman
3. trader
4. merchandiser
5. small storekeeper

Businessman! I like that. For what are mercenaries if not independent entrepreneurs leveraging their practical experience in direct military action?

 

[Turgid]

So a turnbased tactical combat game emphasizing cover, terrain and LOS where you control mercenaries has devolved into a real time game about german shopkeepers?

 

[zeitgeist]

New screenshots:

http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_03.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_01.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_02.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... poses3.png

I left them as links instead of embedded images on purpose. Click if you dare.

 

[Spectacle]

Damn, it's hard to look at those screens and not imagine that the game is actually turn based
Why did they have to go with boring real-time?

 

[turn_based_fanboy]

Damn, it's hard to look at those screens and not imagine that the game is actually turn based
Why did they have to go with boring real-time?

Because people don't like thinking.

 

[tindrli]

The turn-based strategy system will not be implemented. Tactical battles will not be fought in TB mode but in realtime - it will, however, be possible to pause at any time or to configure an automatic pause. (for instance: when a merc runs out of ammo.

Advantages of the Plan & Go-system, when compared to the original TB summarized:
-It is more dynamic, because it allows realtime battles
-It introduces timing as a gameplay element: Due to transparent and foreseeable enemy movement, it will be possible for the player to sneak dextrously past them or wait for a good opportunity for an attack.
-It makes it impossible to stumble into a fight while the mercs are far from the front lines. In JA2 it was very time-consuming to move all mercs to the front line, because you had to split their movement over several rounds.
-Battles with many enemies are faster. A turn took a long time in JA2, when many mercs and enemies were involved in a fight.
-The new system supports new AI features as suppression and flanking, which only work when the actions take place simultaneously - not in sequence

fucking disaster

 

[Demnogonis Saastuttaja]

I bet this all is a part of some infernal plan to make earth living hell. Rape everything good and what's left?

 

[hoverdog]

New screenshots:

http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_03.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_01.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_02.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... poses3.png

I left them as links instead of embedded images on purpose. Click if you dare.

Look guys! I've got a time machine! I've travelled back to early 00s! It's a miracle!

 

[SharkClub]

New screenshots:

http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_03.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_01.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... feb_02.jpg
http://www.jaggedalliance.com/wp-conten ... poses3.png

I left them as links instead of embedded images on purpose. Click if you dare.

Look guys! I've got a time machine! I've travelled back to early 00s! It's a miracle!

 

[Havoc]

I don't remember Arulco as a sandnigger country...

 

[sgc_meltdown]

This is the worst counterstrike mod I've ever seen.

 

[zeitgeist]

Game Developers Conference previews: Gamespot and Gamezone. And of course, what would gaming journalism be without some historical revisionism:

And just like before, the game will give you the choice to play these battles in real time (if you happen to be totally insane) or in turn-based mode (if you're sane).

edit: Also, this is interesting:

From what we can tell from our brief demonstration, Back in Action brings back all the elements of the classic tactical strategy game, including limited action points for each mercenary to spend each turn on movement, reloading, firing, throwing grenades, using explosives, patching up wounded teammates, and so on. If you happen to be carrying an automatic weapon, you can also still set your firing mode to single shot, burst, and full auto. Back in Action also uses Jagged Alliance 2's line-of-sight system, which displays each character's field of view as a triangular cone on the ground radiating outward, and just like in the original game, your best bet, at least early on, will be to stay low, stay out of sight, and pick off enemies one by one.

Did they change the game into a Fallout Tactics-like realtime/turn-based hybrid while no one was looking, or is it just shoddy reporting?

 

[Achilles]

Nah, they probaly consider the "active pause" system to be turn-based. It wouldn't be the first time.

 

[GarfunkeL]

Either they completely changed their design for the game or Gamespot is unable to find their own ass with two hands and a map.

 

[zeitgeist]

Either they completely changed their design for the game or Gamespot is unable to find their own ass with two hands and a map.

Apparently it's the latter:

now the gamespot preview......

Unfortunately that one is actually a little misunderstanding (or at least its misleading).

There will be NO native TBS mode.
Instead the plan&go system will allow what i call "pseudo"TBS:
The game will allow regular pauses. In this pause mode you have all the time in the world to give your mercs several commands (we are talking about complicated stuff like 'move into that cover, then shoot enemy x s leg, after that throw a grenade into bilding a and advance towards building b').
And dont get me started about coordinated actions (as everything will happen parallel once the stop mode ends merchs can obviously work together quite well...instead tf the old one after the other actions)