People News Josh Sawyer plans to develop a historical RPG after his current project

[ArchAngel]

Sawyer will destroy Obsidian within a couple years. Someone like him can't create anything of worth. His obsession with balance and no fun will destroy any project he works on.

Only a slow, painful death awaits Obsidian.

"No Fun" Obsidian is replacing Bugsidian?

 

[Fenix]

You mean, like in Darklands?

Well, I have heard a lot of good words about Darklands, but if the game as historical as the coves... the woman that dressed like that in Medieval Germany...
I start to lose hope.

Good news! I think Its time for another crusader RPG. Or something with Hunnic Empire. No vikings or England please.

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Also as I recall there were talks about time travel RPG? Right? Why don't mix it up? ---> Kill some Saracen in X century to stop refugee flood in XXI

Lol whut? Maybe you mean "drown some Mayflower", or "kill some Hawaiian from Honolulu" or at least "kill some rothschild"? Have you not noticed some US activity which lead to refugee crisis?

You're saying Obsidian shouldn't poke the bear? I thought bears only come in cuddly, Winnie the Pooh forms, there's no reason to be scared.

Bears are reserved for Russia, pick another word - Shaitan?

 

[Barbarian]

He defended NV heavily against SJWs, but OTOH he's a big supporter of saint Anita.

Is he as big a supporter of Anita as Tim Schafer?



Or does Josh only pay in kind words?

He was an actual financial backer to female tropes in video games.

Oh fuck it, with an Anita supporting sjw at the helm there is no chance a new historical game like darklands would ever work.

 

[LeStryfe79]

I think Scrooge subconsciously dislikes Pillars of Eternity because Irenaeus liked it. It reminds me of that time I made fun of all those girls in 4th grade.

 

[Barbarian]

Well, I have heard a lot of good words about Darklands, but if the game as historical as the coves... the woman that dressed like that in Medieval Germany...
I start to lose hope.

To be fair, that is just the cover. The male and female character outfits were represented quite accurately in the game. Hendrick probably didn't have anything to do with that box art.

In the game you could(and should) have a female character in your party and you were not limited in the backgrounds you could choose for her. So you could for instance have a female soldier, huntress, alchemist, thief, or abbess... the soldier background and some of the others you could choose are really a stretch for a woman in the 15th century off course, but I wasn't bothered by it. It simply allowed you to create an exception and I always created female characters with more believable backgrounds. You did not meet any female raubritter in the game or anything like that. The npc women you met in the game were medieval stereotypes just as they should be(witches, white witches, poor widows, etc).

 

[HobGoblin42]

To be fair, that is just the cover. The male and female character outfits were represented quite accurately in the game.

Not sure about that, but it's hard to say with 8 x 16 pixel per character

Can't find a female character screen on the fly.

 

[Soph]

Oh fuck it, with an Anita supporting sjw at the helm there is no chance a new historical game like darklands would ever work.

The non sequitur is strong in this one.

I just hope we get a good historical RPG, not like those are in overabundance everywhere.

 

[Barbarian]

To be fair, that is just the cover. The male and female character outfits were represented quite accurately in the game.

Not sure about that, but it's hard to say with 8 x 16 pixel per character

Can't find a female character screen.

The color of the arms was editable, that much I remember. Unless you picked the skin color the female avatar had her arms covered. Off course, not that wearing pants was the standard female fashion at the time but Joan of Arc did it. And she is probably the exception that comes to mind whenever one wants to depict a woman engaging military pursuits in the medieval period.

 

[Fenix]

You know what else is historical and fantastic? The Bible.

Why you prefer to pick Bible over Torah? Do you fear Jew's Wrath?

¿Can we please please please, pretty please with a cherry on top, stop with the swords, magic and "historic" old events and do something new and different?

I'm starting to be really fed up of that setting, it's like nothing else outside from swords and magic or apocalyptic settings can be done on crpgs unless some kind of miracle every 8 years happens.

Maybe another vampire?
Jagged alliance or invisible inc?
A setting like Mass effect but inside a good crpg?
Superheroes?
Sports?
Hell, even a WW2 setting would do it, just stop with the swords or magic for a bit.

How about A Fool's Banquet? Copper Dreams?

 

[acer palmatum]

It'd better be set in the Holy Roman Empire!
It'd better aim for historical accuracy!
It'd better have realistic gender roles and races (one)!

Men on the battlefield, women on the wheat field, all others on the pyre?

 

[Fenix]

Stalkers obsessing about some game dev's possible sjwness is even dumber than playing video games. Im saying we might as well ignore the idiots rather than try to argue with them about whether its true.

Because personality is matter. Ignoring personality is pure stupidity, I thought it was obvious without explanation.

To be fair, that is just the cover.

Well, thanks, balance is restored. )

 

[Delbaeth]

I'm thinking of another source of historical fantasy, irish "old history" aside, why not the book of Taliesyn? In Europe, welsh stories aren't so well represented, especially compared to french-english stories.

Is that some gay porn or something?

...

Yeah right, now think about saying that loud in an irish pub.

 

[Barbarian]

Historical Europe has tons of untapped potential. If I'm not mistaken Hendrick planned to have Darklands 2 set in 15th century Italy. Would have been awesome. Spain during the Reconquista woud also be cool, but a cuck such as Sawyer could go all "muh diversity, not all muslins" or whatever.

And there is off course the crusades. I really disagree with the posters who said such a setting is only good for strategy games. An rpg set in the crusader states would be incredible. The Kingdom of Jerusalem and its client states were chaotic, unstable and full of myth and legend.

 

[Trashos]

When playing FNV and PoE, I couldn't tell what the political views of the creators were. As a matter of fact, while playing PoE I came to believe that Obsidian must be a mixed bag politically. This may not be true (I don't know), but it shows that they know how to... balance their stories.

 

[Infinitron]

Spain during the Reconquista woud also be cool, but a cuck such as Sawyer could go all "muh diversity, not all muslins" or whatever.

Hmmm, "Not all Muslims" was good enough for this guy:

Over the next several years, however, El Cid set his sights on the kingdom-city of Valencia, operating more or less independently of Alfonso while politically supporting the Banu Hud and other Muslim dynasties opposed to the Almoravids.

 

[Flou]

Just as long as they leave magic out of it. Witches/Druids sure, but it should be based on herbalism etc. and not actual magic. Otherwise it could just end up as just another generic fantasy rpg and there's already too many of those.

 

[Atlantico]

He was an actual financial backer to female tropes in video games.

Interesting. I knew about this:
https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/214839768918392832

Those are words of support. Where did you find information that Sawyer was an actual financial backer? I'd love to know how much he gave.

 

[Shadenuat]

This (possibility for JS's own new historically accurate baby) is interesting.

The question is, how casual friendly his game would be. And why. (since by his own words - nobody likes history)

 

[Immortal]

He was an actual financial backer to female tropes in video games.

Interesting. I knew about this:
https://twitter.com/jesawyer/status/214839768918392832

Those are words of support. Where did you find information that Sawyer was an actual financial backer? I'd love to know how much he gave.

He's listed on the backer page. Amounts pledged are not shared.

I think he might of donated to her patreon at some time as well. Roguey ?

 

[Barbarian]

Spain during the Reconquista woud also be cool, but a cuck such as Sawyer could go all "muh diversity, not all muslins" or whatever.

Hmmm, "Not all Muslims" was good enough for this guy:

Over the next several years, however, El Cid set his sights on the kingdom-city of Valencia, operating more or less independently of Alfonso while politically supporting the Banu Hud and other Muslim dynasties opposed to the Almoravids.

What does that have to do with anything? He was exiled, disgraced and had to regain his reputation and his standing. I hope you are aware that the Crusader states also made uneasy alliances with opposing muslim states quite often(even the Hashashin at a few times). Hell, a mongol/crusader alliance was the talk of the day for a long time(with Antioch and the Armenians actually pulling it off). It hardly means both the Crusaders and the Spaniards were any less dedicated kebab removers/infidel crushers.

For a great rpg setting I would rather prefer the beginning of the reconquista though, maybe the days of Don Pelayo's guerilla warfare or perhaps in the aftermath.

 

[Thonius]

Historical Europe has tons of untapped potential. If I'm not mistaken Hendrick planned to have Darklands 2 set in 15th century Italy. Would have been awesome. Spain during the Reconquista woud also be cool, but a cuck such as Sawyer could go all "muh diversity, not all muslins" or whatever.

And there is off course the crusades. I really disagree with the posters who said such a setting is only good for strategy games. An rpg set in the crusader states would be incredible. The Kingdom of Jerusalem and its client states were chaotic, unstable and full of myth and legend.

To be fair nobody in whole entertainment industry would commit such suicidal act.(except hatred devs) Nobody want to touch muslim theme. It can lead to explosion of negative reviews/articles etc. Remember PoE and tranny gravestone? Remember how it was blown out of proportion? Now imagine if someone find offensive if you kill muslims for xp. PR nightmare.

 

[an Administrator]

My grandpa remembers the national rage on the movie "El Cid"(1961). Yeah better not to touch anything muslim-related in history!

 

[Barbarian]

Historical Europe has tons of untapped potential. If I'm not mistaken Hendrick planned to have Darklands 2 set in 15th century Italy. Would have been awesome. Spain during the Reconquista woud also be cool, but a cuck such as Sawyer could go all "muh diversity, not all muslins" or whatever.

And there is off course the crusades. I really disagree with the posters who said such a setting is only good for strategy games. An rpg set in the crusader states would be incredible. The Kingdom of Jerusalem and its client states were chaotic, unstable and full of myth and legend.

To be fair nobody in whole entertainment industry would commit such suicidal act.(except hatred devs) Nobody want to touch muslim theme. It can lead to explosion of negative reviews/articles etc. Remember PoE and tranny gravestone? Remember how it was blown out of proportion? Now imagine if someone find offensive if you kill muslims for xp. PR nightmare.

I don't really think so. There are tons of fps and action games where your sole objective is to exterminate modern sandnegro terrorists and nobody makes much of a fuzz about it. I guess it depends on the context. CK2 was also a bestseller and VERY unPC before the devs went full cuck.

It is funny that such an important part of history is so underrepresented. You hardly see any movie about the crusades, and when you do it is some patronizing ahistorical load of political bullshit(Ridley Scott's "Kingdom of Heaven" comes to mind). You just need the cash and someone brave enough to do it, the rest follows. Remember when Mel Gibson self-financed his version of the "Passion of Christ" because no studio would touch it even with a 10 foot pole and rubber gloves? The movie was a massive blockbuster and the man made a fortune.

 

[Joni Odin von Hassenstein]

I would love an RPG during the civil war era. You can chose to be rebel militia, Southern planter, slave, northern soldier or northern merchant/banker, and you can alter the outcome of the civil war. That would be so awesome!

When playing FNV and PoE, I couldn't tell what the political views of the creators were. As a matter of fact, while playing PoE I came to believe that Obsidian must be a mixed bag politically. This may not be true (I don't know), but it shows that they know how to... balance their stories.

Well, remember that all the Gods in PoE except the evil one are progressives to a degree, except Berath who is like 50/50.
They kinda adressed that in The White March with Abydon and I liked that.
Nonetheless it still remains an incredibly non-conservative Pantheon.

 

[Flou]

I don't really think so. There are tons of fps and action games where your sole objective is to exterminate modern sandnegro terrorists and nobody makes much of a fuzz about it. I guess it depends on the context. CK2 was also a bestseller and VERY unPC before the devs went full cuck.

It is funny that such an important part of history is so underrepresented. You hardly see any movie about the crusades, and when you do it is some patronizing ahistorical load of political bullshit(Ridley Scott's "Kingdom of Heaven" comes to mind). You just need the cash and someone brave enough to do it, the rest follows. Remember when Mel Gibson self-financed his version of the "Passion of Christ" because no studio would touch it even with a 10 foot pole and rubber gloves? The movie was a massive blockbuster and the man made a fortune.

Context means a lot when it comes to that subject. I'm not sure if CoD etc. ever really make it clear that the ragheads you are killing are muslims, nor does it hand out xp points for it. I personally don't think it's worth the risk of a PR nightmare, not to mention they would have to tread very carefully around the subject thus hindering writing, design etc. a lot.

I guess historically the Crusades are not the proudest moment for Christians, not to mention such films would only cause problems with fanatical Muslims, so it's easier to avoid it or dance around it in a way that it barely touches the part about killing muslims in the thousands in the name of Jesus/Pope.
Though even if you look at all the possible wars and events you could cover just within Europe, and Europeans fighting against each other during the medieaval times, there's still not that many movies made about that time.