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Game News Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Released

RobotSquirrel

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Not woke enough to skip playing but woke enough to never pay for it.
Will play after a few patches.
That's sort of my stance. I have time, will wait, I'm not in any rush for this game, I know I'll eventually play it, I know eventually I'll have a good time with it - after all I enjoyed the first game. Its not worth $120 Dollarydoos, that's an entire weeks food for me, I'd rather eat.
 

The Nameless One

Educated
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Sigilville, CA
Yeah cause there were never gays in Medieval times or Jooz, or people with inclination for one or the other......

The Hans shit actually looks like a troll, put in as a commentary on the arbitrary nature of these kinds of options. Hell in Mass Effect you could be a red-blooded hetero gigolo for most of the game then get a faggot option towards the end of the game and noone comments on the radical shift in alignment.
They retconned two straight characters into becoming bisexuals which is pretty annoying. With Shepard it's different, there are so many ways you can define that character and his/her history, that the sexuality exists in a quantum state until defined by you.

Meanwhile, KCD establishes that Henry is hetero in the opening scene, you don't get a say.

Vavra has also been abundantly clear about his motivations. He's completely sincere.


"I found a hidden gay option buried in dialogue, voluntarily selected it, then selected every other possible gay dialogue option my original selection unlocked throughout the 120-hour course of the game, and now my Henry became gay for no reason at all! This game is just like Veilguard!"
KCD is worse then Veilguard because of the lecturing about Jews and how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you.
Regardless of the characters' story and vavra's autism, the real reason why Kingdom Cuck Delivered 2 (and the rest) is part of the problem is that, once again the push coming into shove is perpetuated into a situation in which not even "medium" franchises are safe from force-fed globohomo. The market closes onto itself, with the bigger devs/publishers forced to pay a fag tax and not being able to deliver "neutral" storytelling anymore.

The woke in the box is an issue that kills a competitive market, replacing it a machine for propaganda in which there's no need for quality in anything. If RPGC didn't care for that, why don't we discuss candy crush intead?
 

Roguey

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Bruh, I didn't expect you of all people making the "NPC speaking vs. the devs speaking through NPCs" mistake. Musa lecturing Henry about something doesn't equal Vavra lecturing the player.
Is there any evidence at all to suggest Vavra disagrees with the character's point of view?

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You can't refute what he says about Mali. He's falsely accused of a crime and the good thing to do is to exonerate him.
 

V17

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Is there any evidence at all to suggest Vavra disagrees with the character's point of view?
Vávra is explicit about being anti-immigration, specifically in the context of north African and middle-eastern immigration, but he also seems to welcome Trump's current stance on immigration to the US. His rants on the topic are in Czech on his facebook, so I guess they don't spread as much. "lecturing about [...] how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you" is obvious nonsense in that context.

Regarding jews, I doubt that's true either, because hating or loving jews is simply not a topic here outside of very fringes of society. Nobody cares, few of them live here, they're not seen as someone in power. It is less clearly nonsense than the muslim thing, but it's imo incorrect viewing of a czech medium through a foreign perspective.
 

Iluvcheezcake

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What i find very interesting is Vavras claims about jewish heritage. That means that he is NOT a OG Jew himself (obviously his mother is not Jewish, since its inherited from maternal line), which means he is a Jew simp. I know a few people like that, actually i work with one and they imo have even more rigid life views than the OG Jew populace....
 

Roguey

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Vávra is explicit about being anti-immigration, specifically in the context of north African and middle-eastern immigration, but he also seems to welcome Trump's current stance on immigration to the US. His rants on the topic are in Czech on his facebook, so I guess they don't spread as much. "lecturing about [...] how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you" is obvious nonsense in that context.

I am not a Christian and I have no reason to defend them. They violently destroyed our former culture and any evidence about it.
He has a great deal of contempt for Christians.

Regarding jews, I doubt that's true either, because hating or loving jews is simply not a topic here outside of very fringes of society. Nobody cares, few of them live here, they're not seen as someone in power. It is less clearly nonsense than the muslim thing, but it's imo incorrect viewing of a czech medium through a foreign perspective.

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First KCD: "We have triple-checked all our sources to make the most historically accurate game possible."
Second KCD: "Yeah we put in an ahistorical Jewish quarter and synagogue in this game because we have an important message we wanted to tell about Jewish persecution."
 

0sacred

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Codex Year of the Donut
KCD is worse then Veilguard because of the lecturing about Jews and how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you.
Bruh, I didn't expect you of all people making the "NPC speaking vs. the devs speaking through NPCs" mistake. Musa lecturing Henry about something doesn't equal Vavra lecturing the player.

Bro people are literally making this shit to express themselves grift. One of the clearest signs that video games are in fact art (even though the same applies to "journalism").
 

V17

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Vávra is explicit about being anti-immigration, specifically in the context of north African and middle-eastern immigration, but he also seems to welcome Trump's current stance on immigration to the US. His rants on the topic are in Czech on his facebook, so I guess they don't spread as much. "lecturing about [...] how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you" is obvious nonsense in that context.

I am not a Christian and I have no reason to defend them. They violently destroyed our former culture and any evidence about it.
He has a great deal of contempt for Christians.

Regarding jews, I doubt that's true either, because hating or loving jews is simply not a topic here outside of very fringes of society. Nobody cares, few of them live here, they're not seen as someone in power. It is less clearly nonsense than the muslim thing, but it's imo incorrect viewing of a czech medium through a foreign perspective.

zhDlVbu.png


First KCD: "We have triple-checked all our sources to make the most historically accurate game possible."
Second KCD: "Yeah we put in an ahistorical Jewish quarter and synagogue in this game because we have an important message we wanted to tell about Jewish persecution."

Regarding jews, you may be right. I'm part of the majority who just doesn't care about supposed messaging like that. I'm glad it's explicitly said in the codex that they did this, at least.

Regarding muslims, no idea how you extrapolate that he loves muslims from the fact that he's an atheist, lol. You can spend some time on his facebook with a google translator if you want, I think he talked about immigration several times in like the last two weeks alone. There is nothing subtle or hidden about his opinions on that matter.
 

MerchantKing

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Vávra is explicit about being anti-immigration, specifically in the context of north African and middle-eastern immigration, but he also seems to welcome Trump's current stance on immigration to the US. His rants on the topic are in Czech on his facebook, so I guess they don't spread as much. "lecturing about [...] how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you" is obvious nonsense in that context.

I am not a Christian and I have no reason to defend them. They violently destroyed our former culture and any evidence about it.
He has a great deal of contempt for Christians.

Regarding jews, I doubt that's true either, because hating or loving jews is simply not a topic here outside of very fringes of society. Nobody cares, few of them live here, they're not seen as someone in power. It is less clearly nonsense than the muslim thing, but it's imo incorrect viewing of a czech medium through a foreign perspective.

zhDlVbu.png


First KCD: "We have triple-checked all our sources to make the most historically accurate game possible."
Second KCD: "Yeah we put in an ahistorical Jewish quarter and synagogue in this game because we have an important message we wanted to tell about Jewish persecution."

What are you talking about goy? There was always a Jewish quarter!
 

Zed Duke of Banville

Dungeon Master
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Didn't the city of Tarant in Arcanum have a street named after known sexual deviant Chris Avellone, who COINCIDENTALLY has been praising KCD2 on Twitter these last few days? Everything makes sense now.............
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Arcanum's largest city, Tarant, contains a street named Rue de Avellone: narrow, short, leading nowhere, and empty --- unless you count the brothel seen above with its entrance on Devonshire Way or the junk dealer on the opposite corner. :M
 

ZVERMIX

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Insert Title Here My team has the sexiest and deadliest waifus you can recruit.
I didn't follow all this, is there a TLDR on this somewhere?
Last I saw is Vavra proudly wearing 'homophobic-racist-sexist-BASED' shirt and defending all his 'historical accuracy' KCD stuff. Why is all this in KCD2?
Was this forced on him by the publisher or did Vavra actually have an 'awakening' and now must have representation in his game?
 

Twiglard

Poland Stronk
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Strap Yourselves In Codex Year of the Donut
Vávra is explicit about being anti-immigration, specifically in the context of north African and middle-eastern immigration, but he also seems to welcome Trump's current stance on immigration to the US. His rants on the topic are in Czech on his facebook, so I guess they don't spread as much. "lecturing about [...] how Sub-Saharan African Muslims are superior to you" is obvious nonsense in that context.

I am not a Christian and I have no reason to defend them. They violently destroyed our former culture and any evidence about it.
He has a great deal of contempt for Christians.

Regarding jews, I doubt that's true either, because hating or loving jews is simply not a topic here outside of very fringes of society. Nobody cares, few of them live here, they're not seen as someone in power. It is less clearly nonsense than the muslim thing, but it's imo incorrect viewing of a czech medium through a foreign perspective.

zhDlVbu.png


First KCD: "We have triple-checked all our sources to make the most historically accurate game possible."
Second KCD: "Yeah we put in an ahistorical Jewish quarter and synagogue in this game because we have an important message we wanted to tell about Jewish persecution."


Is the quotation "Regarding jews ..." also from Vavra? It's not visible in his tweet or in any response to it.
 

whocares

Savant
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Nov 8, 2016
Messages
152
Bruh, I didn't expect you of all people making the "NPC speaking vs. the devs speaking through NPCs" mistake. Musa lecturing Henry about something doesn't equal Vavra lecturing the player.
Is there any evidence at all to suggest Vavra disagrees with the character's point of view?
Haven't gotten to Musa yet, but early on there's a woman who tels you about the poor gypsies everyone hates for no reason and how they're so free and misunderstood.

In the next sentence she gives you some lockpicks and directs you how to steal everything not bolted in town. When you get to the gypsy camp, the vendors there are a fence and a horse rustler who tells you to steal horses and bring them to him. You tell me if the gypsies are portrayed positively here.
 

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