KickStarter Kingdom Come: Deliverance Pre-Release Thread [RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Darkzone]

Shirtgate and problems within the time schedule. Hmm if this is good to state this so openly? This makes Vavra someone with whom one can drink a beer.

 

[Paul_cz]

The intro and outro was hilarious. Their QA lady being burlesque dancer is hilarious/awesome too. I hope they manage to get the alpha update out before the christmas break.

 

[Weirdstuffinspace]

For those who haven't, first mafia is well worth playing still. And is as good as ever.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Too bad they took it out of steam. Now i had to torrent it to get my digital copy.

 

[Smejki]

Another alpha update is out, motherlovers! Love yeah!

 

[cvv]

Yeah, now the wait for a livestream or a YT video begins.

 

[Darkzone]

Another alpha update is out, motherlovers! Love yeah!

Is that now a SWJ PC Feministic word for MF?

 

[Paul_cz]

Another alpha update is out, motherlovers! Love yeah!

Is that now a SWJ PC Feministic word for MF?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0DeIqJm4vM


Also, the alpha is nice.

 

[Paul_cz]

Hah, Dan's latest game design presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emH7N-g33qQ

Developing this must be special kind of hell
Love the honesty, I hope they manage to figure it all out. I really expect 2016 earliest though.

 

[cvv]

Lol I love these. The funny stories are actually funny.

Best one is they literally starved an NPC to death because they started a conversation, went afk for some time and the time-stop feature in conversations wasn't implemented yet :D

 

[Kaldurenik]

What did he say at the QA?

 

[cvv]

What did he say at the QA?

1. Explained why conversations can't be in real time in such a deeply simulated world (many environmental risks to break the conversation, even kill the player for instance)
2. Said they had to tune down the simulation coz it was getting a bit ridiculous and the game would never exist without cheating here and there
3. Explained why is the time compressed (1 day is 1 hour) and why it's not a good idea to have the gameplay time copy the real world time (due to many time-dependent quests you would have to use the "skip time" feature too often).

Personally I reckon the compression is way too harsh and they make too much fuss about the time in conversations. So yeah, if you started the conversation without any adjustments, the rest of the world would freeze - big deal. So you just blur the background out or something. Nobody would give a shit. Better than wasting time with all those shenanigans.

 

[Cadmus]

I love these videos, they are very open and honest about their work and talk about the real things and problems not just some shitty concepts or ideas or visions or emotions like the western developers seem to do.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Any new info about actual rpg mechanics?

 

[GarfunkeL]

1 hour = 1 day is just the way it was in Skyrim, wasn't it? It's way too harsh and unnecessary if you actually have a big map. 1 hour = 4/6/8 hours is much better. Hopefully QA-testing will let them realize that and finetune it.

 

[Cadmus]

Any new info about actual rpg mechanics?

I don't think so. I watched a presentation by the lead designer and it made me happy because they produce the game exactly as I wish they did. It's all tons of systems with the necessary additions of animations and items for some quests. Hopefully this means that the game will feature a real emergent gameplay like in Flashpoint where cool things happen because of how you play and think instead of being shoved down your throat.
I spent the night watching Vavras presentations and this just might be the one game I let myself be hyped for. I don't recall ever seeing that fat, bald fuck Gaider speak so clearly about design decisions, or Sawyer for that matter.

I can already see some fucking idiot like rogey yell "OMG THEY SO UNPROFESSIONAL" but they are the opposite of that, just a no-bullshit technical guys.

He also spoke about the czech localization (dunno if it's been covered here already) and said they don't know how to do it because the animations are motion captured in english and they wanted to produce real quality VO and if they simply dubbed it in czech it would look like a shitty TV dub plus the czech localization ain't gonna pay for itself so the issue is still open.

 

[Smejki]

1 hour = 1 day is just the way it was in Skyrim, wasn't it? It's way too harsh and unnecessary if you actually have a big map. 1 hour = 4/6/8 hours is much better. Hopefully QA-testing will let them realize that and finetune it.

We are considering having 1 day = 2 hours or even more.
The closed alpha proved that now 1 simple quest might easily take 2 or 3 in-game days. Which again in turn makes you skip-time too often because you want to skip the night.

 

[cvv]

We are considering having 1 day = 2 hours or even more.
The closed alpha proved that now 1 simple quest might easily take 2 or 3 in-game days. Which again in turn makes you skip-time too often because you want to skip the night.

Exactly. Plus even if the compression is 1:4 or more you are not gonna be skipping time all the time anyway - if there's enough content and quests to keep you constantly busy.

 

[Paul_cz]

I would make day 70 minutes and night 50 minutes, or more in similar ratio.

 

[NotAGolfer]

I don't think so. I watched a presentation by the lead designer and it made me happy because they produce the game exactly as I wish they did. It's all tons of systems with the necessary additions of animations and items for some quests. Hopefully this means that the game will feature a real emergent gameplay like in Flashpoint where cool things happen because of how you play and think instead of being shoved down your throat.
I spent the night watching Vavras presentations and this just might be the one game I let myself be hyped for. I don't recall ever seeing that fat, bald fuck Gaider speak so clearly about design decisions, or Sawyer for that matter.

I can already see some fucking idiot like rogey yell "OMG THEY SO UNPROFESSIONAL" but they are the opposite of that, just a no-bullshit technical guys.

He also spoke about the czech localization (dunno if it's been covered here already) and said they don't know how to do it because the animations are motion captured in english and they wanted to produce real quality VO and if they simply dubbed it in czech it would look like a shitty TV dub plus the czech localization ain't gonna pay for itself so the issue is still open.

Tits Link to RPG mechanics clarification or gtfo.
Also Flashpoint was not really emergent, it was an open world shooter where you could choose the way to kill the baddies. That's much easier to do than a CRPG which would have to implement a story unfolding in that open world, without relying solely on main quest triggers and cutscenes. Fallout basically. I'm not impressed by some nice little alchemy minigame. Put the effort into things that actually matter ffs.
And what did even give you the idea that there would be emergent gameplay in this one? To me it more looks like a pretty linear cutscene heavy game like Bioware used to make them, only with a more intriguing setting and some tacked on open world to waste time between main story missions and to bring in the moneyz from the Skyrim crowd.

 

[cvv]

Tits Link to RPG mechanics clarification or gtfo.
Also Flashpoint was not really emergent, it was an open world shooter where you could choose the way to kill the baddies. That's much easier to do than a CRPG which would have to implement a story unfolding in that open world, without relying solely on main quest triggers and cutscenes. Fallout basically. I'm not impressed by some nice little alchemy minigame. Put the effort into things that actually matter ffs.
And what did even give you the idea that there would be emergent gameplay in this one? To me it more looks like a pretty linear cutscene heavy game like Bioware used to make them, only with a more intriguing setting and some tacked on open world to waste time between main story missions and to bring in the moneyz from the Skyrim crowd.

Not a good day?

 

[NotAGolfer]

So so. Thx for asking.

I just don't like any sort of hype about this game. As intrigued as I am by the real history angle, it all screams popamole and I hate that I still don't understand their marketing buzzword speek "explaining" the fighting system. Makes me feel dumb. .

 

[Paul_cz]

So what do you codextards think about the included alpha quest in tech alpha v 0.2 ?
Dan Vavra played through it in the latest warhorse vid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk2nHG9XsLQ

 

[Haba]

The map is hella cool, really dig the style.

Otherwise the game doesn't have that much to offer yet, obv.

 

[AN4RCHID]

Some new videos