Knights of the Nine

[Monica21]

Oh c'mon, Monica - that's the silliest sort of sophistry. Yes, Tribunal didn't add "landmass" in the technical editor sense, but put it in context... Twinfalls noted that Knights of Ni didn't appear to be adding any new area, and Nog mentioned Freddo's assertion: "OMG LOOK AT TRIBUNAL an expansion doesn't have to add landmass". Twinfalls, Nog, and I were all pointing out that Tribunal added a helluva lot of area, or "landmass" in a non-technical (like, English language) sense; Nog was even clear enough to point out that it was in an internal cell.

Of course, the bottom line is that Ni isn't an expansion anyway - it's just "new content". So the original debate is moot.

It's not sophistry, because what I said is exactly true. There is no new landmass in Tribunal. If you want to call it landmass then fine, but "more buildings" is not "landmass." And I'm not even talking about a technical editor sense. Even Vipera could figure out that there is no landmass simply because it doesn't show up on your world map. You don't have to check the editor to find that out. If it did, then yes, it would be landmass. It doesn't, so it isn't.

And who cares whether it adds landmass? What I understood Twinfalls to say is that if this is Bethesda idea of an expansion, it's incredibly weak after two relatively strong expansions in Tribunal and Bloodmoon.

 

[Proweler]

Meh. Trib and BM add a new locations and a pretty large ones at that. Haven't heard so much about K9 yet. Just Toddlers brable about kewllewt stuff and a somewhat hopefull hint from MK and that the lore would better then the average dung.

 

[Deacdo]

Their homage to Monty Python?

 

[Micmu]

Their homage to Monty Python?

Wait... I thought that was Rex' joke. Are they really naming it Knights of the Ni?

 

[Nutcracker]

I just figured that idiot was trying to copy Rosenphelia/Godot. It wouldn't have been the first time on TESF

Nope. Years ago there was some dork who always spoke in third person - and others copied that too. Dumb.

It was S'Viirr i believe. A real knob too.

 

[Nog Robbin]

Oh c'mon, Monica - that's the silliest sort of sophistry. Yes, Tribunal didn't add "landmass" in the technical editor sense, but put it in context... Twinfalls noted that Knights of Ni didn't appear to be adding any new area, and Nog mentioned Freddo's assertion: "OMG LOOK AT TRIBUNAL an expansion doesn't have to add landmass". Twinfalls, Nog, and I were all pointing out that Tribunal added a helluva lot of area, or "landmass" in a non-technical (like, English language) sense; Nog was even clear enough to point out that it was in an internal cell.

Of course, the bottom line is that Ni isn't an expansion anyway - it's just "new content". So the original debate is moot.

It's not sophistry, because what I said is exactly true. There is no new landmass in Tribunal. If you want to call it landmass then fine, but "more buildings" is not "landmass." And I'm not even talking about a technical editor sense. Even Vipera could figure out that there is no landmass simply because it doesn't show up on your world map. You don't have to check the editor to find that out. If it did, then yes, it would be landmass. It doesn't, so it isn't.

And who cares whether it adds landmass? What I understood Twinfalls to say is that if this is Bethesda idea of an expansion, it's incredibly weak after two relatively strong expansions in Tribunal and Bloodmoon.

And there was me believeing I was sufficiently explicit...
Tribunal added a whole new city - bigger (I believe) than Balmora and many towns of MW originally. So it didn't show on the map - I'd still argue it was new land mass. It wasn't just a building in an existing area or anything. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that it was based on mainland Morrowind and they had early problems with expanding the territory beyond the original map boundaries then I'm sure it would have appeared on the map. I still stand by what I said - it was new land mass, being a whole new area of land to explore.

And yes, Nutcracker, I believe you're right about it being S'Viir.

 

[Monica21]

And there was me believeing I was sufficiently explicit...

I did understand you, but I disagree with you.

Tribunal added a whole new city - bigger (I believe) than Balmora and many towns of MW originally. So it didn't show on the map - I'd still argue it was new land mass. It wasn't just a building in an existing area or anything. In fact, if it wasn't for the fact that it was based on mainland Morrowind and they had early problems with expanding the territory beyond the original map boundaries then I'm sure it would have appeared on the map. I still stand by what I said - it was new land mass, being a whole new area of land to explore.

And as I said, more buildings does not equal landmass. The only way you can get there is by teleportation. It's an interior cell and is just sort of "there." But, whatever. If you think it's a landmass then fine.

 

[Lumpy]

How do you define landmass?

 

[Monica21]

How do you define landmass?

Somewhere you can travel to by walking or swimming from the mainland.

 

[Top Hat]

How do you define landmass?

Somewhere you can travel to by walking or swimming from the mainland.

According to your definition, Mournhold is the only landmass since it's the only part which actually is on the mainland.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

According to your definition, Mournhold is the only landmass since it's the only part which actually is on the mainland.

pwned

 

[Ahzaruuk]

How do you define landmass?

Somewhere you can travel to by walking or swimming from the mainland.

According to your definition, Mournhold is the only landmass since it's the only part which actually is on the mainland.

read it agian.

You have to be able to SWIM or WALK to it.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

How do you define landmass?

Somewhere you can travel to by walking or swimming from the mainland.

According to your definition, Mournhold is the only landmass since it's the only part which actually is on the mainland.

read it agian.

You have to be able to SWIM or WALK to it.

Mournhold is on the mainland, and vvardenfell is an island in the middle. So actually Mournhold is nothing because you can not swim to Mournhold from the mainland as mainland Morrowind is not in the game.

 

[Monica21]

How do you define landmass?

Somewhere you can travel to by walking or swimming from the mainland.

According to your definition, Mournhold is the only landmass since it's the only part which actually is on the mainland.

Vvardenfell IS the mainland in the game. Can you swim or walk back and forth from Mournhold to Vvardenfell? No you can't, so by my definition Mournhold is not a landmass. Solstheim is a landmass. Havish is a landmass. Want to change the scenery of Todd's Test Cell and call it a landmass too? Go ahead, but it still isn't one.

OccupatedVoid, don't be a dumbass.

 

[Monolith]

Holy fucking shit...some of you definitely have spent too much time on the ESF. Get a grip on yourself monica! Next thing you'll do is downloading furniture mods for Oblivion and whining about the Oblivion land not being a landmass as you can't WALK nor SWIM to it!

 

[Monica21]

Next thing you'll do is downloading furniture mods for Oblivion and whining about the Oblivion land not being a landmass as you can't WALK nor SWIM to it!

If I played Oblivion, then I probably would. Good thing I don't.

Get a grip on yourself monica!

Good advice.

 

[OccupatedVoid]

Holy fucking shit...some of you definitely have spent too much time on the ESF. Get a grip on yourself monica! Next thing you'll do is downloading furniture mods for Oblivion and whining about the Oblivion land not being a landmass as you can't WALK nor SWIM to it!

I spend it all trolling(at the TESFstapo)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I burned Oblivion it deserved it. :twisted:

 

[Nog Robbin]

I guess my definition of land mass is a mass of land. Which suits something like a city - even if you do have to teleport to it. My point being it was an added outside area (even if technically built as an interior) - more than a single building in an existing area.

But you're right - it's not worth getting ones knickers in a twist over.

 

[cutterjohn]

More shit from bethesda? Oh god, i actually cliked on this page link, 'cuz i thought it's some new good RPG.


I feel good about never buying oblivion.

meh, I feel bad that I paid $50 for it when I could've gotten it for $30 last week... or c. $850 less if I had just resisted the siren call with a little more application of will power...

Addon appears to add no new land mass only extra quests fo some, undoubtedly, ph4t lewt for teh console kiddies...

Sounds like it'll be no bigger/better than Mehrune's Dagger which AFAIK is the largest of the downloadable rip... er content, and that Bethesda will be attempting to justify the $20 by tossing the grab bag of cra... er previosuly available downloadable content with it. Care to bet that this will ship of a credit card CD which isn't even 1/4 filled?

@Sol Invictus
Did you know that you now --s-t-a-n-d-a-v-e-r-y-g-o-o-d-c-h-a-n-c-e-- are in serious danger of being offered a job by Bethesda?

BTW that box image actually made me laugh...

@Landmasses
OK, I'll go along with agreeing that Tribunal wasn't a landmass, but it sure as hell added alot more content than this slightly overgrown excuse for downloadable crap in a box will...

 

[Dmitron]

undoubtedly, ph4t lewt for teh console kiddies...

Speaking of which, I feel it is my duty to expose..the..evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sHK65IOn5M

 

[Drakron]

Well if anyone had doubts Monica is a women ...

Only a women can play around with the definitions until white is black, any men would either give up or be pissed and attack.

 

[cutterjohn]

undoubtedly, ph4t lewt for teh console kiddies...

Speaking of which, I feel it is my duty to expose..the..evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sHK65IOn5M

I think that I am now even more psychologcally scarred for life...

BTW: was that a demo for Oblivion's new bard mini game?

 

[Twinfalls]

Well if anyone had doubts Monica is a women ...

Only a women can play around with the definitions until white is black, any men would either give up or be pissed and attack.

Yeah, like the Codex hasn't seen a bazillion protracted arguments over definitions before?!? What the FUCK is with some of you people's obsessions with posters' genders?
GROW UP

 

[Drakron]

Yeah, like the Codex hasn't seen a bazillion protracted arguments over definitions before?!? What the FUCK is with some of you people's obsessions with posters' genders?
GROW UP

And why the fuck do you care?

And yes, its a argument over technicalities because even if Tribunal did not add a new "landmass" it certainly added several new ares that had new textures and new meshes, also if I remenber they fixed the damn journal into something half funtional and added the much needed new scripts for NPCs to be added as companions.

Of course THAT goes over the head of TES fanboys that get hung up over technicalities because "The Knights that say PAY UP" so called expansion will likely add ... NOTHING that we did not see in the $2 plugins, the fact the "CD version" will come with the previous official $2 Plugins says a lot over the content.

And oh yes, I do CARE about the gender because I dont fucking trust women much, expecialy over the internet (because of people like you) ... the moment I know it have a vagina instead of a penis cannot exactly type the first phrase of this post and this:

FUCK YOU.

 

[Twinfalls]

And oh yes, I do CARE about the gender because I dont fucking trust women much, expecialy over the internet

In other words, you have never been laid.

...the moment I know it have a vagina instead of a penis cannot exactly type the first phrase of this post and this:

FUCK YOU.

Sorry, babel fish doesn't do Gibberish just yet. Whatever that means though - keep chasing that rainbow, Drakron!

 

[fizzelopeguss]

undoubtedly, ph4t lewt for teh console kiddies...

Speaking of which, I feel it is my duty to expose..the..evil:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sHK65IOn5M

Look at his face, he thinks he's so good. And laffo at the ugly hair.