Review KotOR2 grooves IGN

[Volourn]

"Haven't seen any bugs yet other then a few minor glitches. No CTDs, no freezes, no slowdowns. My specs are P4 1.6 512MB and an old and crappy GeForce 4 MX 440."

My specs crush your. Bah. <> I've had to CTDs yet. That's the only positive news on the bug side. :twisted:


"It's easy, but it gets harder after you leave the "training" area."

Doubtful.


"The rest gets better too, so play some more and stop whining."

Hahahaha. R00fles! LOLOLOLOLOLLIPOP It's one thing to say that; it's another thing to do it. You know, I'd probably be done the game by now if it would actually work properly. <>


"It's not."

It is. Look at the "Lack of Support" forum at Obsidian for evidence; not just a couple of random Obsidian fanboys on the 'Codex.


"Volourn is being a wee but melodramatic tonight."

No. I'm telling it like it is. It's not my fault the game is buggy; it's not my fault the combat is easy; it's not my fault they gace you a silly mindlink with some silly old woman; it's not my fault that they won't allow me to play My character for half the game.


R00fles!


P.S. I do like how everyone always say the "game gets better". Watch, I'll play 30 hours of it, and some bonehead will say it'll get better after I play 35 hours. R00fles! The fun is always out of our reach.

 

[Vault Dweller]

My specs crush your.

Exactly. That's why I posted them.

"It's easy, but it gets harder after you leave the "training" area."

Doubtful.

Awfully pessimistic, aren't we?

"The rest gets better too, so play some more and stop whining."

Hahahaha. R00fles! LOLOLOLOLOLLIPOP It's one thing to say that; it's another thing to do it. You know, I'd probably be done the game by now if it would actually work properly. <>

What kinda bugs do you have? Out of curiosity.

It is. Look at the "Lack of Support" forum at Obsidian for evidence; not just a couple of random Obsidian fanboys on the 'Codex.

Yay! I got promoted to Obsidian fanboy! As for the point you were trying to make, every game has a "following" of people who can't get it to work for a variety of reasons and who whine and make idiotic threads so that they can post "OMG! I haev Pentuim 1,000,000 gHz with 1,000,000 RAM and this gaem still doesnot work!!!!" Welcome to the elite club, Volly.

I'm not saying that there are no issues, every game has them, but unplayable?

 

[Volourn]

Did I say unplayble? Afterall, I have played it.


"Awfully pessimistic, aren't we?"

Just realistic. Games don't magically improve over time.


"What kinda bugs do you have? Out of curiosity."

I gave an example to Bryce. I'm not gonna continue repeating it.


"As for the point you were trying to make, every game has a "following" of people who can't get it to work for a variety of reasons and who whine and make idiotic threads so that they can post "OMG! I haev Pentuim 1,000,000 gHz with 1,000,000 RAM and this gaem still doesnot work!!!!" Welcome to the elite club, Volly."

Says the one who has gone out of way to say the game is pretty much flawless. R00fles!

 

[Mr. Teatime]

Another disappointement is the 48kbps mono music. That's not a joke, it really is that low quality.

 

[Trash]

Well, started playing it with little hope. Kotor was fun for awhile but started to get a bit samey quick. So far though I really dig this game, mostly because the story and npc's seem well fleshed out and a bit more mature then the kotor 1 crowd. I'll see how the game continues, but so far it's been a blast.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Just realistic. Games don't magically improve over time.

True, they don't, but they often improve after the starting/training area. FO2 starting dungeon rings any bells?

 

[Lemon]

In eight hours I've had one odd freeze and a bug with swoop racing (won't acknowledge my race times and I can't collect my winings.)

 

[Volourn]

"FO2 starting dungeon rings any bells?"

That took 5 minutes of game time; not a fair comparison. And, it was a lot more fun then KOTOR2's start is.

 

[Spazmo]

Vault Dweller: Your key advantage is that GeForce you're using. KOTOR2 (and KOTOR1 as well, for that matter) seems to really hate ATI cards or more specifically their drivers. The Obsidian KOTOR2 support board is aflame with ATI owners commenting that they can't run the fucking game. I myself get constant lockups requiring reboots in KOTOR1, an issue that's apparently also very common among ATI owners according to BioWare's KOTOR support forum.

 

[Vault Dweller]

Heh. And to think that I was going buy me one of them trendy ATI cards with gazillion of RAM and other goodness just to run KOTOR 2 properly. Then I thought I'd give the old card a chance before the retirement and was really surprised at the performance.

Oh well, back to saving the universe or something.

 

[Hajo]

Oh well, back to saving the universe or something.

Work on your game
I want to see how a game with non-lethal combat actually works

 

[Vault Dweller]

Well, it works pretty much the same way as in Gothic. You fight, you knock someone out, then you can either move on or finish him off manually (coup de grace) if that's what your blood thirsty ass wants.

Anyway, I can't do anything else, while the universe is in danger. This is not the Jedi way!!!

 

[Hajo]

Saving the universe will save my backside, too, so hurry on

 

[Volourn]

*FART*

*plays KOTOR1* Oops, my ATI works perfectly after a simple update. Game over. Not true for KOTOR2.

 

[bryce777]

Vault Dweller: Your key advantage is that GeForce you're using. KOTOR2 (and KOTOR1 as well, for that matter) seems to really hate ATI cards or more specifically their drivers. The Obsidian KOTOR2 support board is aflame with ATI owners commenting that they can't run the fucking game. I myself get constant lockups requiring reboots in KOTOR1, an issue that's apparently also very common among ATI owners according to BioWare's KOTOR support forum.

Well, that explains it.

I am coming to hate ATi, having had them a while now.

NVidea is no picnic either, but it can't be as bad as this. Too bad 3dfx went under; they really had it together.

 

[bryce777]

It would be better if only once you have a lot of skill in the force a lightsaber is actually useful and if you dont have it you are better off fighting from afar. To my thinking anyhow.

id mentioned that on the obsidian forum once. i dont think its part of the d20 rules but theyve deviated enough that i dont think it would matter, but my idea was that until/unless you learned how to actually wield a lightsaber, you could still use it but risked doing damage to yourself as easily as damaging your opponent.

Well I dont know so much about cutting your own leg off, but at close range unless a jedi is able to block the lasers blasts with the sword he should get blown to pieces.

At further range while you are both moving around I can see them missing a lot or hitting you in areas largely protected by armor, but if some joker with a light saber rushes boba fett, then unless he was amazing at blocking blaster shots he would be toast in a heartbeat, and I would think only the strongest jedi would be that good, let along good enough to take on a dozen bounty hunters with just a light saber.

You realize that you're talking about lasers, right? Don't you think that when discussing something like speed of light energy weapons (and the ability to dodge such weapons) that being slightly further a way isn't going to make that much of a difference in your ability to dodge it? I know that you're advocating the Jedi getting his ass-kicked because of practical logistics, but when we're talking about StarWars I don't think that it's very practical to discuss practicality.

First off, although I think I said laser, blasters aren't lasers, obviously.

I guess they are some sort of plasma weapon and they aren't speed of light.

Secondly, you could still dodge them my moving out of the way of where they are GOING to be and moving around a lot. This is especially true for oh...say...a JEDI whose dodging ability is due to the force, not due to playing lots of video games.

At close rage, without some sort of jedi ability to block lazerblasts with your light saber or similarly get out of the way, it would be impossible for someone in melee range not to blast you to pieces with a blaster.

 

[Volourn]

Update: The game is at least working reaosnably well though there are still bugs. It's still not the greates. Give me BL, and its problems, please. <>

P.S. The 2nd best thing is the weapon switching. And, any game that has that as its second best feature needs a LOT of help. :twisted:

 

[NeverwinterKnight]

Update: The game is at least working reaosnably well though there are still bugs. It's still not the greates. Give me BL, and its problems, please. <>

P.S. The 2nd best thing is the weapon switching. And, any game that has that as its second best feature needs a LOT of help. :twisted:

youre probably better off not playing it until the bug issues have been dealt with. as it is, im sure that whatever good parts of the game will be tainted because of the bugs youre experiencing.

i was the same with bloodlines. because of the bugs and the absolutely horrible framerates i was getting, i often overlooked how good the actual game was (ie. story, characters, etc.) because of how shoddy the gameplay was for me.

 

[bryce777]

Update: The game is at least working reaosnably well though there are still bugs. It's still not the greates. Give me BL, and its problems, please. <>

P.S. The 2nd best thing is the weapon switching. And, any game that has that as its second best feature needs a LOT of help. :twisted:

youre probably better off not playing it until the bug issues have been dealt with. as it is, im sure that whatever good parts of the game will be tainted because of the bugs youre experiencing.

i was the same with bloodlines. because of the bugs and the absolutely horrible framerates i was getting, i often overlooked how good the actual game was (ie. story, characters, etc.) because of how shoddy the gameplay was for me.

What kind of system do you have?

 

[Volourn]

"because of the bugs and the absolutely horrible framerates i was getting, i often overlooked how good the actual game was (ie. story, characters, etc.) because of how shoddy the gameplay was for me."

Um.. I had horrible frame rates, and various other bugs with BL too and yet I manged to like its good aspects. Sorry, I cna't speak for you; but I can seperate bug problems with a game that isn't great.

KOTOR2 is a Perfectly. Acceptable. Game. (without bugs) Nothing special.

With bugs it deserves every bad word one can throw at it. :twisted:

 

[NeverwinterKnight]

What kind of system do you have?

dont ask me. lol i suck with technical stuff beyond the basics.

all i know about the system is that it had 512 mb of ram (or whatever the recommended was), and 1.7 ghz, plus a graphics card that was listed as compatible and over 7 gb of harddrive space.

 

[bryce777]

What kind of system do you have?

dont ask me. lol i suck with technical stuff beyond the basics.

all i know about the system is that it had 512 mb of ram (or whatever the recommended was), and 1.7 ghz, plus a graphics card that was listed as compatible and over 7 gb of harddrive space.

Oh well, thanks anyhow.

 

[NeverwinterKnight]

Um.. I had horrible frame rates, and various other bugs with BL too and yet I manged to like its good aspects. Sorry, I cna't speak for you; but I can seperate bug problems with a game that isn't great.

KOTOR2 is a Perfectly. Acceptable. Game. (without bugs) Nothing special.

With bugs it deserves every bad word one can throw at it. :twisted:

i just figured you were doing the same thing i did with bloodlines, since most of your posts that ive seen have complained about the bugs and technical issues only, without much (if any) comment on the actual game itself, such as story or npcs.

my mistake.

 

[Sol Invictus]

Alright, so I got KOTOR2. I don't know where the ATI framerate complaints are coming from, but I haven't had any so far. I've had one CTD when I tried to access a console, but that was probably because I was alt-tabbing all the time.

The dialogue seems pretty good so far, and the dark side/light side points seem to be a lot less obvious than they were in KOTOR1.

 

[Lemon]

Catalyst 4.12s result in a much reduced frame rate, for those afflicted rollback your drivers or try a newer release.