Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk

[Reinhardt]

So what's the point of nightmare setting anyway? Monster are harder, i guess, but not much harder. Exp is the same more or less. Yes, more mana, but it's just means Reaper will come earlier.

 

[duanth123]

Just a PSA for anyone nearing the endgame,

There's a postgame dungeon that requires a specific unlock.

I won't spoil it except to say that before you beat the final boss, revisit each "stratum" for a single "event" (one in each stratum or world) in which you do something that sets up the condition to unlock post-game.

 

[Kruno]

http://nisamerica.com/games/labyrinth-of-refrain/comic/lorcod_comic.pdf

The comic book states a Coven can hold 3 members + 5 supports. So 40 puppets total.

EDIT:
Just beat the 4th map boss. Party level ~40.

 

[duanth123]

So what's the point of nightmare setting anyway? Monster are harder, i guess, but not much harder. Exp is the same more or less. Yes, more mana, but it's just means Reaper will come earlier.

I get the impression that bosses are significantly more difficult on nightmare.

Two in particular and the final boss gave me real trouble, enough that I had to grind up a bit.

 

[orcinator]

Just great. Black screen is back. After 2 hours of avoiding trolls, stockpiling exp and collecting mana and loot in third dungeon it hit me when i browsed items. There goes my 40k+ exp(and reward after mission)

Just had a black screen. Probably haven't lost as much progress since I'm still in the first dungeon but I'm having a hard time slogging through the boring early game in order to get to the parts where party building becomes a thing or the dungeons get complex.

 

[Hobo Elf]

How difficult is this game? Are status effects useful or is combat just spam attack to win?

 

[Miner 2049er]

What is the condition for an attack being a mismatch ?

 

[Kruno]

There is native damage: hard enemies, soft enemies, etc...
Use hammers against hard enemies. Slash/pierce for soft enemies. Flame vs plant enemies. Slash, pierce, and blunt are elements, as is flame, mud and fog. Experiment here. A mismatch occurs when you hit a hard enemy with an arrow as an example.

Satus effects are awesome, they also apply to bosses, and this includes gore.

 

[The Fish]

What is the condition for an attack being a mismatch ?

Using the wrong weapon for the current row, such as using a bow in the front, if I recall correctly.

 

[Kruno]

I don't really optimise much either. I level up just by exploring levels and using some of the game mechanics. Pretty poorly too as you can see in my above screenshot.

I am trying to find a safe karma level, because some pacts let you regen mana based on a percentage of karma. I can't see this being useful, but I would like to know more abour karma and its effects.

EDIT:
A new discovery.
During battle select the coven and give orders, and then hit 'y' to auto battle with everyone else. This is awesome, and I just found this out.

 

[duanth123]

How difficult is this game? Are status effects useful or is combat just spam attack to win?

I've found nightmare difficulty to be somewhat hard, primarily if you stockpile XP and with regards to the FOEs and the bosses.

The trash mobs aren't too hard.

 

[PocketMine]

Just had a black screen. Probably haven't lost as much progress since I'm still in the first dungeon but I'm having a hard time slogging through the boring early game in order to get to the parts where party building becomes a thing or the dungeons get complex.

Im not that far into the game but i found first dungeon is not boring at all there are monsters right on the first floor that can easily mop up all the monsters i found so far in second dungeon also there is third dimension exploration im missing from second dungeon.

For example i got the permit from swamp fearie for feriman before geting shovel from feriman to open the way to swamp fearie and i didnt even explored all the levels of first dungeon yet.

 

[Kruno]

I find it hilarious that every single boss fight since the 4th map just leaves 2 of my people alive.


My spear wielder does 1500 damage, and crits often for ~3K, so she was the one putting out damage the during the 2 person fight while my vangaurd would do 750 damage and heal when necessary.

 

[evdk]

Somebody break my arms so I can stop playing this shit.

 

[Miner 2049er]

We could, but then you would still be playing with a pencil in your mouth. Also Disgaea 5 is right around the corner.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

japanese need to learn some basic things:
-staring at a black screen between transitions for 2-3 seconds is not fun, it's just infuriating
-a bit less grind has never killed anyone, tone down the respawn, i won't complain
-consistence in the interface, don't give me a different commands scheme for every screen

other than this and the clear consolitis it suffers, this one seems like a pretty solid game, it tastes like wizardry.

 

[evdk]

Also Disgaea 5 is right around the corner.

RIP

 

[troupeg]

Question: Is this a game that can be steamrolled with pure grinding or is this like Dragon Quest 11 in hard mode where even grinding to 99 doesn't help you in end game and you need pure strategy?

 

[PocketMine]

My guess is game can be steamrolled even without grinding. Im playing on nightmare mode and so far im only having problems with monsters high over my level on places i shouldnt be.

 

[duanth123]

Question: Is this a game that can be steamrolled with pure grinding or is this like Dragon Quest 11 in hard mode where even grinding to 99 doesn't help you in end game and you need pure strategy?

I just finished the postgame.

Would rate this game a strong 9/10. Best crawler on Switch and best I've played in a long time.

Elminage: Gothic being a 10/10 and Stranger of Sword City a 9/10, for reference.

You do need to grind up in order to

*mild spoilers*

Spoiler

beat the six superbosses

to access the postgame.

And the postgame bosses definitely require a bit of grind to reach a high enough soul clarity, at least on nightmare.

However, there's a pact in postgame that awards 666% exp boost, so it doesn't take that much time.

Just great. Black screen is back. After 2 hours of avoiding trolls, stockpiling exp and collecting mana and loot in third dungeon it hit me when i browsed items. There goes my 40k+ exp(and reward after mission)

Just had a black screen. Probably haven't lost as much progress since I'm still in the first dungeon but I'm having a hard time slogging through the boring early game in order to get to the parts where party building becomes a thing or the dungeons get complex.

You generally blackscreen, at least on Switch, if more than 15-20 characters in your pacts level up at the same time, almost always when you return to camp.

Don't include more than 15 chars in your pacts that you intend to level up and you should be fine. Annoying, but will save you hassle when you stockpile.

I confirmed this bug myself.

Can't speak to blackscreen in other circumstances.

 

[karoliner]

Just beat the boss of the gnome kingdom. Really nice game even if the beginning was a bit boring.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

could anyone explain to me why japs love to hide important features behind a 12 hours long grind and irritating banters wall?

 

[Grauken]

they don't want to overwhelm casuals with too many options

 

[Hobo Elf]

Think I'll buy this game today, but between ESO and DQ11 I don't think I'll be able to play it much yet.

 

[MadMaxHellfire]

aaaand after like 30-40 minutes dodging trolls, right after killing three bosses in a row, black screen. no, i didn't level 20 characters altogether, i just switched floor and BAM! all is lost.
fuck this shit, games with strict save rules must not contain similar bugs, they void the whole experience.