Company News Larian opens new office in Quebec, has two new RPGs in development based on the Original Sin engine

[vivec]

Thanks.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Why would anyone want more rivellon?

 

[Infinitron]

Uh, no. The people want a new IP. They can't live on Divinity forever.

'Want' is a tad too forgiving. They 'need' a new IP.


Does anyone know if Rivellon is well known and liked outside of their forums or even in there?

The wiki entry for Rivellon is completely empty (http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Rivellon), so I'm guessing not very well-liked.

Eh, lore entries on these semi-abandoned gaming wikis are usually like that.

I doubt Rivellon as a specific setting is super-popular but the concept of Divinity itself - a non-descript yet whimsical fantasy world - might be something people are attached to.

 

[vivec]

Ah yes. The word I was looking for was 'cringeworthy'. Thanks.

 

[Athelas]

Uh, no. The people want a new IP. They can't live on Divinity forever.

'Want' is a tad too forgiving. They 'need' a new IP.


Does anyone know if Rivellon is well known and liked outside of their forums or even in there?

The wiki entry for Rivellon is completely empty (http://divinity.wikia.com/wiki/Rivellon), so I'm guessing not very well-liked.

Eh, lore entries on these semi-abandoned gaming wikis are usually like that.

I wouldn't describe a wiki where they post the changelog of every D:OS update as semi-abandoned.

 

[Infinitron]

I wouldn't describe a wiki where they post the changelog of every D:OS update as semi-abandoned.

I would. Copy-pasting is easy, creating actual content requires more commitment. I should know.

 

[vivec]

That would imply that *somewhere* there exists a wiki with a detailed Rivellon entry as that would mean at least one person is committed enough to make one.

 

[Infinitron]

Uh, anyway, a good analogy might be the setting of the Gothic games. Does anybody care much about it? Doesn't seem like it.

But still, the word "Gothic" implies certain things about the world of the game that people seem to like.

It's a Euro thing.

 

[vivec]

Thanks for making my point.

This only means that the Divinity franchise can be safely rebooted without caring about the setting. Just like Risen was borne off Gothic. Who cares what the setting of Gothic was anyway? It was a really good Open world simulator with good combat and that was what was carried over into new franchise.

 

[Infinitron]

Thanks for making my point.

This only means that the Divinity franchise can be safely rebooted without caring about the setting. Just like Risen was borne off Gothic.

I'm not sure that everybody would agree with you about the success of that transition, but yeah, maybe.

But if they're simply going to create ANOTHER setting that nobody cares about, then one might ask what the point is

 

[vivec]

The solution is simple. Hire MCA and Ziets.

 

[NotAGolfer]

2 games is kinda reasonable as Infinitron pointed out.
One to continue with Rivellon (fast and easy to put together in the preproduction stages) and one where they try something new, maybe this time no fantasy setting (and no postapoc or steampunk too please, why not sth set in the present or maybe ancient rome or whatever?).

Only thing I'm taking from this is that Swen is the broes bro evar, is aware that not everything is great about D:OS and what fell flat and that maybe next year when they are done patching late game I'll give it another go and see if I'll play through it this time. Still a great CRPG, it's normal for me to abandon games midway through.

His heart definitely is in the right place. Trying to mimic pen&paper instead of interactive movies as a design goal is very incline, most devs are too dense to get that ... or better they are just doing what casuals want them to ... fckin whores .
Wish them luck and a successful new year... Why the hell don't we have a Swen developer mug?

 

[Kem0sabe]

As much as i dislike Larian's writing, i think it would fit with a modern/scifi setting with a snarky anti-hero main character. Just look at uncharted, its mediocre pop-corn writing, but you cant help but like Drake and his adventures.

 

[Athelas]

I'm pretty sure you've misspelled 'despise' as 'like'.

 

[tuluse]

I don't see why they can't make Divinity games without setting it in Rivellon.

It would be like having a d&d game not set in the Forgotten Realms. The game series doesn't need to be the setting series.

 

[Spectacle]

I don't see why they can't make Divinity games without setting it in Rivellon.

It would be like having a d&d game not set in the Forgotten Realms. The game series doesn't need to be the setting series.

So you're saying that the next Divinity game will be a D&D game set in the Forgotten Realms?

 

[Zed]

The solution is simple. Hire MCA and Ziets.

ziets got hitched by inxile, which hopefully means he'll have a lead position in one of their next games.
MCA is stuck in a well-paid business role at obsidian.

 

[Metro]

I doubt anyone here could recite much in the way of Divinity/Rivellon lore without consulting a wiki. I'm sure the most people could recall off the tops of their head is Arfu and the Elminster ripoff, Zandasdfazasdaaa or whoever. It's uninteresting and unmemorable. Hell it hasn't been a year since I played D:OS and I couldn't tell you much about the central plot. Sure it had wacky characters like Madora (HAIL COMRADE) but... I had no idea what was going on half the time.

 

[ZoddGuts]

Hire Yasumi Matsuno and have him write a Tactics Ogre type setting, political intrigue with countries/empires at war with each other.

 

[throwaway]

Uh, anyway, a good analogy might be the setting of the Gothic games. Does anybody care much about it? Doesn't seem like it.

The old English World of Gothic sure seemed to care, unsurprisingly I guess. The is the Undead Dragon of G2 Sleeper and Chromanin nonsense has been spilled over to more than a few communities. Even now the shittiness of Risen is partly attributed to how weaker the world is to the Gothic mythos, and specifically the Khorinis setting. No clue what the perception of the rest of the codex is but mine is that the attachment to Divinity's setting is significantly weaker.

 

[Metro]

Gothic had an okay 'universe' that somewhat 'depreciated' the bigger the world got (Gothic 3). Of course that's true for a lot of fiction: the tighter/more contained your narrative is the more in-depth you can get without worrying about the meta-universe.

 

[:Flash:]

Rivellon never had/was "lore" it was just a metaphor for "we throw in whatever comes to our mind at any point in time".
Divine Divinity was classic humans/elves/dwarves. Then they threw in parallel planes in Beyond Divinity. Dragon Knights in Div 2. Steampunk in Dragon Commander and kinda everything in D:OS.

At one point during the development of Divine Divinity they hired a German forum member as a writer and presented him as a "published Fantasy author". After the release of the game, someone from the forum actually bought his book. Turns out the publisher was himself and the guy who bought the book quoted from cringeworthy fan-fiction stuff to great amusement of the community.

 

[Kem0sabe]

If you want quality humor in europe, england is probably the only place you can find it in a form that can be apreaciated by multiple nationalities and cultures.

Larian cant write wity fantasy comedy if their life depended on it, rivellon is drivel of the worse kind.

 

[Roguey]

No wonder all the good stuff came from Rhianna Pratchett who isn't even a particularly good writer.

 

[Visperas]

I'm not the biggest fan of the Divinity setting but how many comedic/humourous rpg settings do we have? I'm perfectly fine with them doing another Divinty game with all the silliness. I just hope that they do something different for their second game.