Dragon Age Let's help BioWare

[Mr. Magniloquent]

Why bother?
Just drop a Finger of Death on Bioware and be done with it.
Put it out of its misery...

That already happened. When slain by finger of death, the victim rises as a zombie. Truly Bioware is a corpse that refuses to rest.

 

[Silvanus]

The only way to help Bioware at this point is to deliver a coup de grace and relieve them of their misery.

EA has the opportunity to do mankind a great service.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Zombie or Juju zombie?

Anyway, sex? Romance? Meh

I'd rather have every object searchable and destructible and even the pieces left over usable. I see a tree, I want to climb it or chop it down or put corpses on it or something. I see a wall, I want to try and destroy it. I see ruins, I want to rebuild it. I want to turn mobs into slaves and take them to the prisons or mines. I want to sell them to wizards to part for their experiments. I want to dig to the planet's core. I want to summon the elder gods to devour the world or summon the lords of light to make happy happy land.

Eh, its just fucking & romancing, and minor puzzling, cutscenes, grinding, and hoarding as usual.

Do something fucking new and NOT ugly fucking characters. If so, include paper sack over head or metal gear box DLC if body hideous please!

 

[Semiurge]

corpses don't have feelings and won't suffer.

This isn't related to games, but in real life there would be other complicating factors like how these bodies would be procured if this thing would ever be legal and in high demand. Would they be donated medical cadavers, random bodies who fit certain qualifications that are basically body-snatched by the black market, or something else even more sinister. The bodies have no consent to give, so if they have relatives all of that would be out of the question. The same way as most parents not wanting their daughters to become prostitutes. It doesn't matter if they're alive or dead. And most people in general won't agree to be used in that way when they're dead, unless they're generously compensated in life. Even then the idea is loathsome, especially if you believe in something metaphysical.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

Be like China!

 

[Tarkleigh]

A new Mass Effect where your only romance options are ugly trannys or James Vega who wears nothing but a jock strap the entire game.

Alternatively, a new Mass Effect where you can only play as a female character. Instant attention from all game journos garantueed.

 

[KeighnMcDeath]

You know this tranny shit goes way back. Back in 91 when I was in HS we had a college student working on becoming a teacher so the main teacher (who was also female) let her teach for a whole semester. One project was we all had to put input to make a cooperative story. She edited the whole thing and added a device in the story where the protag could change "it's" sex. I was like WTF?! Fucking college shit? I believe I tossed it in the trash in front of her and walked out after it was read in class by her. I nearly got expelled for that. I was put in suspension at school in the vice principal's office for a week. They said it was because I cussed if you call "damn" a cuss word.

 

[KörangarTheMighty]

Well, firstly it's 2024 so we need at least double the barrels of NwN, all of them trapped and containing nothing of value naturally. Not to mention an uncompromising return to the Ruins of Ulcaster school of dungeon design.

 

[rojay]

She edited the whole thing and added a device in the story where the protag could change "it's" sex. I was like WTF?!

Was your objection to the use of the abbreviation for "it is" rather than the possessive "its"? Because I got your back on that, buddy.

 

[Iucounu]

This thread implies Bioware needs help coming up with depraved ideas. Have they declined so much that they even fail at wokeness now?

 

[Naraya]

I'm here to help Bioware. Brought tools with me.

 

[behold_a_man]

Even then the idea is loathsome, especially if you believe in something metaphysical.

Certainly less loathsome than the idea of a contemporary BioWare game, and yet, here we are.

 

[Frozen]

How about "a male gaze protective" camera?

Making all women tranny=ugly is not enough. We have to go further.

If you try to shamelessly look at boobs/ass of any fem character the camera blows you away on the other side of the map, or even better-game punishes you by killing you-end game, you lose you misogynist bitch.

 

[MerchantKing]

The only way to help Bioware is to invent a time machine, go back in time about a decade before bioware is founded, use that time to become a stock mogul, buy out Black Isle, and then have it ditch Bioware as a developer for not doing well enough with Shattered Steel. With no other options, Bioware is forced to close its doors and rpgs are saved. However, the infinity engine is Black Isle's property now and we're still going to get Icewind Dale. Unfortunately for Sawyer, we're going to have to go through some lay offs and now he's without a job. So no one knows about Sawyer, so no PoE I guess. Then buy out Activision and tell Troika to debug their games.

 

[gooseman]

Are any of the bioware games good? Serious question.

 

[Yosharian]

Are any of the bioware games good? Serious question.

BG2 is legitimately a good game, come on

 

[Stoned Ape]

Are any of the bioware games good? Serious question.

In V. Dweller's immortal words, Dragon Age: Origins will always be "good for what it is."

 

[gooseman]

BG2 is legitimately a good game, come on

Only played 1 and it sucked in just about every way.

Dragon Age: Origins will always be "good for what it is."

What is it? A porn game?

 

[Storyfag]

BG2 is legitimately a good game, come on

Only played 1 and it sucked in just about every way.

Please be more specific.

 

[Yosharian]

BG2 is legitimately a good game, come on

Only played 1 and it sucked in just about every way.

BG2 is better than BG1 though.

 

[Storyfag]

BG2 is legitimately a good game, come on

Only played 1 and it sucked in just about every way.

BG2 is better than BG1 though.

In some aspects. It was inferior in regards to the amount of overworld maps and how seamlessly they connected to one another.

 

[PunchYouInTheFace]

Cope thread no. 334

 

[gooseman]

BG2 is legitimately a good game, come on

Only played 1 and it sucked in just about every way.

Please be more specific.

It's been a long time. Maybe even more than 15 years. What I remember...
Boring plot hook. Obnoxious companions forced into the party (or sort of forced, since, even if they suck and their alignment doesn't match yours, its still a party rpg, so... you need someone in it and the only people I found were some evil guys in a tavern). Bad combat, such as wizards who can only cast a shitty spell that does 1d0 damage with a chance to miss, once per day, and then have to take a nap or be unwizardly and poorly utilize ranged weapons (I know it's dnd and late game they are the strongest characters, but this shit fucking sucks). The rest is rng and if it goes bad then you just kite the retarded ai. And then you have to rest, but the game spawns an identical horde of enemies to fight. Maybe it gets better later, but I only got to the redditor who threatened to kill me over his hamster. Or the mine/cave around the same location, dont remember which came first.
If people think the game is actually good I'm open to giving it an honest replay.

 

[Stoned Ape]

Dragon Age: Origins will always be "good for what it is."

What is it? A porn game?

In the context of when it was released and the relative quality of the other RPGs released around then it was a good game.
Compared to the broader scope of RPGs in general I still think it is decent (depending upon what you're looking for) but hasn't aged as well as it might have.

It offered greater choices with more consequences than previous Bioware games and although the RTWP combat system wasn't particularly inspired (the combat mechanics felt a bit like how a single-player MMO might play (mostly based around an aggro system with little in the way of tactical positioning)) it offered occasionally decent enemy design, some fun encounters (along with plenty of dull trash fights), and some decent areas to explore. It was possible to break combat in numerous entertaining ways if you knew what you were up to (stacking dodge items to make yourself immune to most physical attacks, unkillable arcane warrior and bloodmage builds, etc) none of this 'every build should be balanced and equal' tripe.

Additionally, I can't remember a game that came before it that had unique first chapters depending on the choice of character background and occasional locked content for those backgrounds later in game. On top of that it had some of Bioware's better companions (none of Morrigan, Shale, Dog, Lilliana, Sten, or Oghren annoyed me by being in my party and offered occasionally amusing banter).

From a design perspective, I think it's probably Bioware's most competent game (world building was decent before taking a huge nosedive in Inquisition, art was mostly good, in-house ruleset is just about passable) and parts of the story were interesting (more the political bits in the mage tower, and in the dwarf and human kingdoms rather than the archdemon/blight plot).

I'd give the game 6.7/10 so just managing to keep it's head above water in good. I have some lingering nostalgia for it and I might be forgetting how bad some of the worse sections were (I remember the forest part being annoying, and some of the repeated encounters in the Derp Roads dragged on past their welcome). I doubt I'll get the motivation to try and get it to work on my relatively new PC in the near future to check though as apparently it can have issues with modern systems.

 

[Storyfag]

If people think the game is actually good I'm open to giving it an honest replay.

The game is honestly good. Nothing beats exploring all those areas in search of stuff.

There are plenty characters for you to recruit hidden here and there, so you don't have to use the evil ones (though these are by far the most colourful). The initial plot hook is "survive" but later pay attention to what your companions want, and later still different things will happen. As for low level wizard... yeah, it sucks. Spells such as Sleep or Grease are much more potent at lower levels than the likes of Magic Missile (which is 1d4+1 damage and cannot miss, by the way ).