Let's talk about Lacrymas' homebrew fantasy setting where paladins are eunuchs

[Cael]

They are part of a religious institution/system first and foremost. Then they aren't castrated just because they exist, they have to break their vows. After that, they don't lose their magical powers even in the unlikely event they start losing muscle mass, and their magical powers is what makes them formidable warriors, which comes from the mechanics of the class. I might make it so their Lay on Hands (or whatever else) stops working after they break their vows/get castrated, but I'd argue that's dumb because they would be less effective warriors, making it nonsensical for the castrators to do it. Oh, I know! They lose their Lay on Hands if they break their vow and they get it back when they get castrated. That incentivizes both the Paladins not to break their vows and the churches to castrate them afterwards as both punishment and restoration of effectiveness. That, however, misses the point, that would metaphysically justify their vows and castration, which is exactly the thing I want to avoid.

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So, the guy breaks his "vows" and you castrate him, and you expect him to fight for you effectively?

You are underpants-on-head retarded.

 

[Reinhardt]

I still don't understand why someone would chose paladin path.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I still don't understand why someone would chose paladin path.

In this setting or in general?

 

[Lacrymas]

I still don't understand why someone would chose paladin path.

It's prestigious first of all, it's like asking who would choose to be a Janissary. Second of all, a lot of them are misbegotten children who got taken by the church.

 

[Storyfag]

I still don't understand why someone would chose paladin path.

It's prestigious first of all, it's like asking who would choose to be a Janissary.

You... are aware that Janissaries were slave soldiers? Very little choice in that regard.

 

[Lacrymas]

Yes, like most of the paladins being misbegotten babies taken by the church. Or you think Janissaries didn't choose that? Well, it's technically not they who chose, but their parents. A lot of parents wanted their children to get taken away to be trained as Janissaries because it was prestigious and they could have a better life.

 

[Cryomancer]

Using 5e for such settings and ideas is indeed catastrophic, is it to lure people in due to 5e popularity ? Even worse, everyone will be miserable . 5e and darksun wont work either indeed, i was dming something in frozen wastelands and noticed the players had not even access to an endure element spell or anything similar... Will be same problem under a scorching sun, you will have to homebrew or rewrite every rules.

Yep. If I ever dedicate myself to make that "setting", I would honestly do on 2e.

This setting sounds really great and cool to play in.

Thanks. I will create a thread about it.

EDIT : here is > https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...brew-inverted-lacrymas-setting-for-2e.137666/

So lets talk about the inverted setting there and let this thread be about the original setting.

Trust me, greataxes won't do anything against a caster unless you surprise them. That means rogues/assassins are the most reasonable weapon against mages when they are dumb enough not to expect clandestine attempts on their life if they are the ruling class.

An anti magical field + a mid level barbarian can kill any D&D mage, including Karsus.

And "caster" is something that varies a lot. On Arcanum for eg, casters aren't stronger than technology. They are just less resource dependent. A army of steampunk bots can kill any necromancer easily on arcanum and the necromancer needs a shitton of fatique to maintain his minions. A mage without magic is like a powerful autocannon without ammo...

 

[Mortmal]

Using 5e for such settings and ideas is indeed catastrophic, is it to lure people in due to 5e popularity ? Even worse, everyone will be miserable . 5e and darksun wont work either indeed, i was dming something in frozen wastelands and noticed the players had not even access to an endure element spell or anything similar... Will be same problem under a scorching sun, you will have to homebrew or rewrite every rules.

Yep. If I ever dedicate myself to make that "setting", I would honestly do on 2e.

This setting sounds really great and cool to play in.

Thanks. I will create a thread about it.

EDIT : here is > https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...brew-inverted-lacrymas-setting-for-2e.137666/

So lets talk about the inverted setting there and let this thread be about the original setting.

Trust me, greataxes won't do anything against a caster unless you surprise them. That means rogues/assassins are the most reasonable weapon against mages when they are dumb enough not to expect clandestine attempts on their life if they are the ruling class.

An anti magical field + a mid level barbarian can kill any D&D mage, including Karsus.

And "caster" is something that varies a lot. On Arcanum for eg, casters aren't stronger than technology. They are just less resource dependent. A army of steampunk bots can kill any necromancer easily on arcanum and the necromancer needs a shitton of fatique to maintain his minions. A mage without magic is like a powerful autocannon without ammo...

If you want to pick 2e pick an OSR ruleset instead, the thaco thing everyone can do without its counter-intuitive also many things are improved . Try lamentation of the flame princess for exemple a much more codexian setting.

 

[Reinhardt]

lamentation of the flame princess

it's porn?

 

[Storyfag]

lamentation of the flame princess

it's porn?

Well, he said:

a much more codexian setting.

so I can only assume tasteful raep.

 

[Cryomancer]

If you want to pick 2e pick an OSR ruleset instead, the thaco thing everyone can do without its counter-intuitive also many things are improved . Try lamentation of the flame princess for exemple a much more codexian setting.

2e is the best D&D ruleset. Also, if I plan to include naval combat, 2e is even better since I can just borrow spelljammer rules. But please. Lets talk about Lacrymas setting here and talk about the inverted setting here > https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...brew-inverted-lacrymas-setting-for-2e.137666/

Naval combat is rarely explored on games.

 

[Mortmal]

lamentation of the flame princess

it's porn?

A bit of everything, sex ,gore , horror. have a look at the official artwork, that should give you an idea.
When i show warhammer to my nephew a young kid, he told me "Hey its not like pokemon"' . If i show LOTFP to a 5E normie , he will probably have the same reaction "hey its not like d&d"

 

[Reinhardt]

 

[Mortmal]

 

[Mortmal]

If you want something more rule heavy there's DCC as well, if you are into lightweight 5E rules(purpose is to be able to dm it while drunk) but adult dark and rotten setting there's shadow of the demon lord , highly recommended by everyone :

 

[Storyfag]

They didnu nuthin.

 

[Bara]

They didnu nuthin.

The people or the animal monsters they're fighting?

 

[Storyfag]

They didnu nuthin.

The people or the animal monsters they're fighting?

What people?

 

[rusty_shackleford]

One analogue is how we, in our culture, think blue is a "boy's color". That can't be proven in any way, especially since pink was considered a boy's color in the past.

nope, this is an urban legend
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-012-0002-z

 

[Storyfag]

One analogue is how we, in our culture, think blue is a "boy's color". That can't be proven in any way, especially since pink was considered a boy's color in the past.

nope, this is an urban legend
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-012-0002-z

Thought as much. Male brains are built to appreciate blue. This is a medical fact.

 

[Lacrymas]

One analogue is how we, in our culture, think blue is a "boy's color". That can't be proven in any way, especially since pink was considered a boy's color in the past.

nope, this is an urban legend
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10508-012-0002-z

I read that study, but it seems very suspect to me, especially since it's only a single author, so I researched the author. He's an evolutionary psychologist, a branch rife with pseudo-science and unverifiable hypotheses, so that makes me even more suspect. As far as I can see, everyone is citing the same 2 people, with the original author only claiming that there wasn't such a strong color coding for children until the 1920s in the USA, and the other guy responding to that. Even if it is an urban legend, my point is that "blue is for boys, pink is for girls" can't be proven in any way (outside of a purely cultural context I mean). The fact there is quite a lot of evidence for both mindsets is telling.

Thought as much. Male brains are built to appreciate blue. This is a medical fact.

There is no such thing as a "male brain", let alone it appreciating blue as a medical fact.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

There is no such thing as a "male" brain

do you research anything before posting?

 

[Lacrymas]

There is no such thing as a "male" brain

do you research anything before posting?

There is no difference in anatomical structure in the brains of men and women, the differences are statistical averages and like all statistical averages it varies from person to person.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

There is no such thing as a "male" brain

do you research anything before posting?

There is no difference in anatomical structure in the brains of men and women, the differences are statistical averages and like all statistical averages it varies from person to person.

this took me like 2 seconds to find
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/201...-significant-differences-brains-men-and-women

 

[Lacrymas]

Literally from the thing you posted -

In other words, just by looking at the brain scan, or height, of someone plucked at random from the study, researchers would be hard pressed to say whether it came from a man or woman. That suggests both sexes’ brains are far more similar than they are different.

It also plainly says the differences are statistical averages like density of grey matter and thickness of the cortex. How you can take that and interpret it to mean "male brain" is beyond me.