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Has Lilura ran out of cRPGs to review?

Or is she just too autistic to bite the bullet and commit to something older than Master of Magic?
 

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She'll probably review CIV3 and call it a "strategy crpg"
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luj1

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Master of Magic is 4X, but it has some character elements

If you are going to call it an RPG, then Heroes 3 is also an RPG
 

jackofshadows

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some people are fucking autistic about them genres.

if you dont have genres, you dont have boundaries, retard

because of fucks like you, in the end there will only be THE GAME, which has red dead redepmtion, skyrim, and a movie rolled into one. That is where we are heading
Hey retardissimo, have you played Space Rangers 2? If so, which genre do you think it beloings to? Fucking autismos.
 

Fedora Master

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No CnC = Not an RPG
No combat = not an rpg
Yes?

Roleplaying implies assuming the role of a character you imagine. This means being able to make meaningful decisions as to how the character would act. Traditionally this happens in the context of fighting fantasy.
ARPGs don't let you make impactful decisions. Nor do JRPGs.
Disco Elysium doesn't have combat.
None of these can be considered true RPGs.
 
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Lilura filtered out my comment asking why Starcraft is a computer role-playing game, which I believe is a pertinent question.
 

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Hold up, she's cooking!! https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2024/01/Reddit-RPG-Games-and-RPG-Game-Remakes.html

Reddit RPG Games​


The problem with cRPG fans is that many of them have devolved into RPG Gamers: they run after everything that's new instead of playing, mastering and modding what is historically best and inexhaustible.

They are like those flies that buzz from one new novel to the other, yet have never read the classics.

Thus do they lack reference points, historical context and good taste.

The natural habitat of such specimens is RPG Game subreddits. It is there that they swarm in order to refer to:
  • computer games as video games or vidya
  • cRPGs as RPG Games
  • and RPGs as TTRPGs
It is there that they greet each other as casual gamers and celebrate their communal lack of gaming pedigree and aptitude. Their upvote-driven behaviors include:
  • Posting low-effort, recycled memes instead of commentary (over and over again).
  • Posting tiled tier-lists of their fave games instead of commentary (repeatedly).
  • Posting links to Fandom wikis and YouTube vids to "prove their points."
  • Posting tired old promotional artwork (pretending it is largely unknown).
  • Posting a photo of an old game box (pretending that it was found in the basement or attic after 20 years).
  • Repeating the top comment in the hope that their copied comment will also get upvoted (pathetic)
  • High-fiving each other for save-scumming (which is cheating).
  • High-fiving each other for playing a remaster over an original; a sequel before an original.
By "instead of commentary", I mean "instead of saying something original, interesting or insightful." But since they have nothing to say they post someone else's meme or make a tiled tier list on a generic tier-making site.

Almost everything they post is tailored to tap into the "upvote" of an anonymous majority (as if upvote tallies are an indication of one's credibility).

Before playing a game RPG Gamers want to know everything about it in advance. In this way they can avoid experiencing the game for themselves. They ask their "communities" (subreddits) if this build would be ok, if that class would be ok, if it's ok to do this or that, and so on.

Oh, and let's not forget: "Is such and such viable?"
And the invariable response: "Absolutely!" (a cringe-worthy exclamation that died off in the 90s.)

Truth be told, it is pathetic. Just play the game, experience it for yourself, come to your own conclusions.

But they don't have the patience to work games out for themselves. Games are to be "beaten" in the shortest time-frame possible, employing as little thought as possible. Then move on to the next game, rinse repeat. To them games are just products to be consumed: the more they can plow through the better off they will be.

They wouldn't even bother playing the game in the first place if they couldn't get a bit of social media attention for doing so (an "upvote", a "like").

The unwarranted attention makes them exceedingly vocal and opinionated for a week or so. Enough time to spread their highly contagious ignorance of the game over reddit like a plague. Then: lose interest and consume next product.

RPG Gamers advertise new games and ignore older ones like they never existed: they refer to Baldur's Gate 3 as Baldur's Gate and Oblivion With Guns as Fallout.

They even advertise discounts despite the fact that current gen games are a dime a dozen. It isn't like paying £45 in 1989 for the latest combat flight simulator, but they act like it is.

RPG Gamers play games because they go on sale. But one day they may realize that just because something's cheap, doesn't make it good value.

With attention spans akin to lightning bolts, they bounce off dozens of two-dollar cRPGs in their backlog, which makes them excited: so much so, that they need to tell everyone about their massive backlogs; how many games they "own" (but none of which they play) on their precious digital distribution platform.

https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2024/01/Criticism-of-Computer-Game-Journalism.html

Common Errors Made by "Experts" of cRPGs & Computer Games​

  • It is cRPG, not RPG or RPG Game.
  • It is RPG, not TTRPG. You don't rename what came first based on what came after. You rename what came after based on what came first (cRPG).
  • It is computer game, not video game. There are computer games, there are arcade games and there are video (console) games. The existence of mobile phone games is not acknowledged by my commentary except in this sentence, which has just ended.
  • You don't refer to microcomputers in terms of "first, second and third etc. generation." You refer to them by their microprocessors and chipsets (8 bit, 16 bit). "Generation" has no heyday employment, signifies nothing, and is a completely fake and manufactured current gen term that gaming veterans wouldn't be caught dead employing. When someone says "16 bit" everyone knows exactly what computers they are talking about. If a commentator employs "generation" you know right then and there how new they are to computer games.
  • Games with 3D cams do not scroll by definition. Screen-scrolling is exclusively a 2D screen-updating coding routine. There is no such thing as "cam scrolling". Cam movements are referred to with cinematic terms, such as trucking. Journos have incorrectly referred to vector-based viewports as scrolling ones since the 1980s. Four decades later, they still can't get it right.
  • Black borders don't exist, only resolutions and aspect ratios do. The game does NOT have black borders. You are simply running the game wrongly, aka User Error.
  • It isn't THACO but THAC0.
  • It isn't Rouge but Rogue. This is not a typo but a consistent error symptomatic of lack of basic literacy.
  • It is avatar, not "toon." Don't read or listen to any commentator that writes or says "toon."
  • It is not elevation, but verticality (height and depth, up and down).
  • In Middle-earth and D&D, it is Elves and Dwarves, not dwarfs and elfs.
  • The plural of Drow is Drow, not Drows. And it is Duergar not Duergars.
  • It is dual-wielding, not duel-wielding. Example sentence: The dual-wielders are dueling. Likewise it is dual-classing, not duel-classing.
  • The abbreviation for Neverwinter Nights is not NVN, but NWN.
  • Warrior is not a class in most RPGs. Warrior is a general term that encompasses warrior-type classes such as Fighters, Barbarians and Paladins.
  • A class or build that primarily casts spells is a spellcaster.
  • It is divine and arcane spells, not cleric and mage spells. Because Clerics are not the only class that can cast divine spells and Mages are not the only class that can cast arcane spells.
  • In round-based and turn-based games, it is DpR and DpT, not DPS.
  • It is turn-based combat, not turn-base combat.
  • Baldur's Gate is not a turn-based game just because its combat system can be set to auto-pause at round's end. Baldur's Gate plays nothing like TB games.
  • A damage-dealer is not a tank. Tank refers to AC, HPs, damage reduction and illusions (defense). Tanks can also "tank" spells (MR/SR). That said, a damage-dealer can be a tank as well. Tank is both a noun and a verb (a tank and to tank).
  • In AD&D 2nd Edition, the class is Mage not Wizard. And vice versa for 3rd Edition. Likewise Thief, not Rogue.
  • You cannot use D&D to refer to AD&D2. Doing so is just downright lazy, ignorant and wrong.
  • Civ games are not god games or wargames, they are general turn-based strategy games.

https://lilura1.blogspot.com/2024/01/Hyperlinks-in-Articles.html

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You don't rename what came first based on what came after.

Bitch has never heard of World War 1 I guess.

It is divine and arcane spells, not cleric and mage spells. Because Clerics are not the only class that can cast divine spells and Mages are not the only class that can cast arcane spells.

I'm not surprised that Lilura still hasn't played the original Wizardry. Maybe he'll get to it after his authoritative 25th Baldur's Gate playthrough.

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And the invariable response: "Absolutely!" (a cringe-worthy exclamation that died off in the 90s.)


To no surprise this article has been criticized more than praised. And all criticisms of the article have been weak.

? To my knowledge, this is the only place that discusses her blog. Maybe /vrpg/ on occasion (threads very likely started by someone here posting anonymously)
 

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