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[Zarniwoop]

Plus he's already the 6th of his kind. Although that could apply to Andhaira as well I guess...

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Andhaira? Really? Not Prosper?

Prosper...is in another castle.

 

[Angthoron]

... allusion to Heart of Darkness ...

Try Damnation Alley.

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/vault/d ... -20-11.php

Visually and atmosphere-wise? Yes, I can see how that's the case. Plot-wise? HoD. I've not read Damnation Alley though, mind you, might look into it; then again, Damnation Alley can well be set on the same base ideas as HoD, that book's been heavily used as a base for a ton of stuff, it wouldn't be the first book HoD would've influenced.

 

[Surf Solar]

Finished it. Loved ever single minute of it and will replay it on a different character! I was a bit disappointed that I didn't notice the "Ulysses is watching you from far away sometimes" a poster here mentionend.

Also - did you guys check out the new areas unlocked after the dlc? They are hard as hell and look very nice (plus some crates of ammo to find).

 

[canakin]

Finished it. Loved ever single minute of it and will replay it on a different character! I was a bit disappointed that I didn't notice the "Ulysses is watching you from far away sometimes" a poster here mentionend.

Also - did you guys check out the new areas unlocked after the dlc? They are hard as hell and look very nice (plus some crates of ammo to find).

Is that GSBE in your sig?

 

[Surf Solar]

Yeah, it is.

 

[canakin]

Good one sir, good one

 

[mikaelis]

I am not done yet, though almost I think (I am in the beginning of the Divide road after firing up the big rocket, emerging on the top of some building and having discussion with Ullisses).

In reference to your discussion about "what we don't know that Avellone thinks he knows":
I was particularly caught by one dialog with Ullisess, where he mentions how Courier has been travelling with the "device" wreaking havoc at the end. If I have it right, the Courier went West brought the device and travelled wth it to the East, back to Divide fucking everything up there and "awaking the machines" that started to repair themselves and build the new ones. Then, Ullisses says that he was saved by those machines probably because he had an old America suit on him (so he says that history saved him).

Could it be that Courier went West, met some other faction from the "Old World" (e.g. remnants of Enclave or whoever) and agreed to the plan on "sacrifying" Divide, Mohave, NCR, Caesar's Legion and so on to set a fundation for the new order, new power?

I must say I am a bit drunk while playing this at the moment so ignore me if I talk incoherent rubbish.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

I'd say not. None of the PC's dialog points to you even being aware of that. The PC doesn't outright deny going through the Divide before it got blown up, but I didn't see any dialog options where the Divide was anything more than a normal rest stop/location for you.

That doesn't mean some other faction sent the Courier there with a device to activate the nukes without the Courier's knowledge though. Couldn't be NCR since they'd want to claim the Divide. Could be Legion since it benefits them though less likely since Ulysses is probably the first scout there. Could be the BoS because this would fuck with the NCR, but it would destroy so much technology it probably wouldn't be them. Probably wouldn't be the Enclave since canon seems to say most of them packed up and headed east, and the ones that didn't integrated with the rest of wasteland society for the most part. Not terribly likely any known faction then. Dumb accident is possible but improbable. So unknown faction or sloppy Avellone leavings smeared all over my face oh god itz heavan?

 

[Drakron]

If I have it right, the Courier went West brought the device and travelled wth it to the East, back to Divide fucking everything up there and "awaking the machines" that started to repair themselves and build the new ones. Then, Ullisses says that he was saved by those machines probably because he had an old America suit on him (so he says that history saved him).

No.

The Courier delivered a package from Navarro that someone hooked up and it activated the Missile Base, that somehow detonated the warheads under the Divide.

Ulysses being "saved" was I suppose how Christine was saved in Big Mountain, the droids from the now activated base found him and dragged him to a autodoc.

Could it be that Courier went West, met some other faction from the "Old World" (e.g. remnants of Enclave or whoever) and agreed to the plan on "sacrifying" Divide, Mohave, NCR, Caesar's Legion and so on to set a fundation for the new order, new power?

MENTION THE MOTHERFUCKING ENCLAVE ONE MORE FUCKING TIME AND I WILL ...
*Deep Breath*

NO!
NO!
NO

He delivered a package from Navarro who is under NCR control, what it was ... its not said exactly but my guess it had the Launch Protocols and was keep there from its Enclave days, after all the Federal Government and the Enclave was one and the same, they might have visited Hopeville Missile Base but found it in such a poor state they left it alone and just keep those codes back in Navarro until someone stubble on it, seen Hopeville written on then and had it send there.

I presumed the Legion had a hand on this (as its similar on how they taken out Searchlight) but there is no evidence this was nothing more that a accident.

Oh ...
Enclave?


THE ENCLAVE IS DEAD!

 

[Surf Solar]

I think that "package" could've been an eyebot, overwriting the machines and starting up the nukes there. How else would Ulysses get his, also he needed ED-E (e.g another Eyebot) to unlock the codes again. Hm!

 

[Drakron]

I think that "package" could've been an eyebot, overwriting the machines and starting up the nukes there. How else would Ulysses get his, also he needed ED-E (e.g another Eyebot) to unlock the codes again. Hm!

Doubt it, it said it had the "Old World Symbol" on it and that is why I dismiss being Enclave, only Enclave related due to them also being the Federal Government, even in FO2 they did not used the American Commonwealth symbols (well mostly) and the level of base activation just makes me suspect it was simply a Nuclear Briefcase.

 

[Stinger]

Finished it last night. Pretty much lived up to my expectations aside from the fact that I was a little disappointed that

Spoiler

Ulysses kept talking about creating nations and waking up a sleeping America but in the end he had no plans for rebuilding America but just wanted to kill off the existing factions for not being up to standard

That part was a bit disappointing but otherwise I was really happy with how fantastically atmospheric the Divide was, really felt like a tough journey- especially with all the environmental hazards and things. Ulysses in general was otherwise very interesting, I actually quite liked his metaphorical way of speaking, it didn't so much show how 'deep' and 'meaningful' he was but rather how messed up he is and how dedicated he is to the idea of symbols and nations. He just really wants to find his place in the world.

I do wish the dlc could've answered

Spoiler

who exactly sent the Courier to deliver that package

but I suppose that's potential sequel material.

 

[Exmit]

Bros help me out,,, i just cannot put myself to play fallout in fps mode without turn combat . As much as i have seen that new vegas tries to go back to the old fallouts the shitty beth engine and shootan combat mechanics puts me off....

help me out rpg codex, you are my only hope.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

Nothing really you can do if you can't stand the engine and combat. Set it to easy so you can breeze through combat faster and do quests?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Oh sure, here's a mod that makes it isometric turn based again.

~No pics of vaginas, only delicious cock pics allowed - Jaesun

 

[Deleted member 7219]

You can zoom really far out and tilt the camera forwards to make it look a bit top down. But to be honest the game is designed for third person so you're going to struggle.

Combat is pretty painful (especially in the DLCs when every enemy has zillions of HP) but I got past it when I realised how brilliant the rest of the game is.

 

[Drakron]

Combat is pretty painful (especially in the DLCs when every enemy has zillions of HP) but I got past it when I realised how brilliant the rest of the game is.

That is bullshit.

A Marked Man Marauder Hp is 138/288, a normal Deathclaw have 500 hp.
There is no HP bloat, a White Legs Pain Maker HP is 85/330 also falling short of a Deathclaw, even the Giant Yao Guai are under 500 hp.

The reason why they are tougher is because they have good gear, good skills and occasionally good armor ans some encounters attempt to use some degree of tactics (in Honest Hearts most White Legs are mixed teams, same with Marked Men in Lonesome Road), I could say there is a bit of cheap tricks (hello there jumping on the bus roof Deathclaw) but HP bloat is not something you can accuse then of that, a Prime Legionary have 145 Hp and its at lv 10, the only reason why DLC might have larger HP that Mojave standard enemies is because there is scaling in the DLCs and there is little on the Mojave.

 

[Roguey]

OWB did get much too absurd with two special encounters in particular (though of course this isn't every enemy):
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Bloatfly_ ... y_bloatfly
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Robo-scor ... o-scorpion

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Finished it today. Great stuff, but not as good as Dead Money due to fewer NPCs and less focused story.

The Divide had great atmosphere, and the backstory had enough of a mystery to it to leave a good amount of questions. Ulysses himself was a very interesting fellow to talk to, and ED-E's backstory bits were good stuff.

Spoiler

One thing I wondered about was the "Old World symbols" Ulysses spoke about the settlement having, which made me wonder if they were Enclave survivors or something. That'd at least provide a very obvious motive for someone in the NCR to send them to hell in a handbasket.

It also bears mention that with good weapons with AP ammo, everything dies in front of you. Especially if you've got something insane like the Bozar from Gun Runner's Arsenal (the gun is one of the fastest there is, and reloads almost instantly).

 

[Drakron]

if they were Enclave survivors or something.

YOU ARE PRESSING YOUR LUCK!



And no, we already know what Old World Flag since its mentioned TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

Its the United States Flag, the American Commonwealth Flag to be exact as the Enclave rarely used it (Frank Horrigan was the only one I see with it, he had it on its armor right shoulder) and in FO2 the only symbols we see are in the Oil Rig that seem to have the Poseidon Oil logo with the word ENCLAVE written on it and the Seal of the President of the United States (besides Frank Horrigan talking head), it was FO3 that given the Enclave a symbol but its just the American Commonwealth Flag with a E on the center instead of a star.

The only "link" you can make to the Enclave is pre-Great War as they were part of the US Government but that is it ... the reason why the NCR was interested in the Divide is made clear, its near Death Valley and would open a supply route besides the long I-15 by entering New Vegas north by Route 95 Alternate.

THE ENCLAVE IS DEAD!
DEAD!
DEAD!
DEAD!

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Hey, I was in no way thinking they'd have Advanced Power Armour or something like that. Enclave lost any kind of military capacity and command structure 100% when the Chosen One made them eat their balls. I was just wondering where the American flag might have ended up in some Wasteland settlement, because some survivors bringing it along seems a plausible possibility. And said survivors would be a good reason for someone (since it's fairly likely NCR itself wasn't behind it) to want to fuck the whole place up.

NCR or someone working for their benefit nuking the place for a supply route doesn't make any sense though since the Divide became uncrossable for any kind of supply caravan, and nuking a settlement so you can walk through a pass seems more than a little odd.

Still, as I said, it's these kinds of unanswered questions that leave a nice air of mystery.

 

[UserNamer]

played it. It was kinda neat, but nothing I would recommend to anyone frankly. It was better than staring at a wall doing nothing- something that cannot be said about many other games- and I enjoyed the scenery but it's nothing much really.

I think Ulysses was interesting BUT his motivations ultimately didn't make any sense. I liked him for how involved was with the plot at large, finding traces of him in the other dlcs, and some of the stuff he says, the way he was inspired by the action of the courier, but I feel that ultimately his decision to bomb ncr\the legion doesn't make much sense.

His logs (the way he talks and the occasional used of poetic language) reminded me of prosper as others have pointed out.

 

[Elwro]

Still unavailable in my region, even though I'm playing the English version and on Steam I'm paying in Euros...

 

[SuicideBunny]

Still unavailable in my region, even though I'm playing the English version and on Steam I'm paying in Euros...

yeah, dlcs are region dependent, not version dependent. steam is pretty fucked up in that regard.
you could just ask a non-potato codexer to gift it to you.