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Lost Ark Online

Dexter

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pls explain how one off quests = constant fetch quests/"go here, talk to/collect this, hand in to big question mark man, move on to next exclamation point and repeat" cuz last i remember these werent hallmarks of old diablo games and became trademarks of shitty soulless mmorpgs like lost ark :3
I never played Diablo very far (and only did so long, long ago), but Diablo 2 is literally all Kill/Collect quests and running back to the quest givers with exclamation marks above their head (and repeat):
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Act 1: Kill/Kill/Collect/Kill/Collect/Kill
Act 2: Kill/Collect/Collect-Destroy/Find-Kill/Find-Kill
Act 3: Collect/Collect/Collect/Collect/Kill/Kill
Act 4: Kill/Collect-Destroy/Kill

Additionally most of these Quests were balanced to be able to be completed in Multiplayer with up to 8 players and the enemies gained strength and the loot got more worthwhile the more players were in a game. Even back then, congruent to playing Ultima Online I remember thinking how a seamless MMO design would fit such a game like a glove and wondering why nobody was making such a game where players could meet, trade, do PvP in some sort of an Arena setting and pick people up to go on Quests with while chatting and showing off their chars and equipment. They already had made large inroads into this direction because they had "Battle.net" chat rooms that would display dozens of heroes with their names, equipment and levels at the bottom talking to one another in an "instance", the thought process from that and 8 player CoOp Multiplayer game to a full instanced MMO experience with cities and facilities like taverns/shops/marketplace and arenas and the like wouldn't have been a far throw and relatively trivial, yet how many similar MMO games exist up to today?:
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Beyond that it's pretty retarded to complain about games like Path of Exile or Lost Ark where people can play them for free and enjoy them and finish their story campaigns, for the most part, for hundreds of hours without having to spend a dime on them, even if they contain some distasteful game or monetization mechanics. If anything, Diablo III's RMAH that it launched with was a lot more distasteful and cynical, aside from the game being full price and also sucking on top. In fact when it became clear that that was going to become a disappointment I was looking forward to Lineage 3 (which never materialized) possibly offering such an experience in a somewhat competent package and doing it better in one of the old D3 threads, since these Gameplay previews were making the rounds back in 2011 (note the part 12 minutes in especially):
 
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1451

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In My Safe Space
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The more I play the more complaints I have.
The game encourages you to use the minimap brought up by Tab but while in there you can't click on the teleportation icon. So your are forced to press M, open the other map and use the teleportation from there.
What's the point of having a tab map if you can't use the teloportation icons you see on it, if I remember correctly Diablo 3 has the exact same problem. Can't check since I don't have it installed currently.
 

Ba'al

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The more I play the more complaints I have.
The game encourages you to use the minimap brought up by Tab but while in there you can't click on the teleportation icon. So your are forced to press M, open the other map and use the teleportation from there.
What's the point of having a tab map if you can't use the teloportation icons you see on it, if I remember correctly Diablo 3 has the exact same problem. Can't check since I don't have it installed currently.

Alt + click. Pretty sure there's a tooltip that tells you this.
 

Saark

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A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
Lost my 8man Abyssal entry chance this week due to dogshit servers. Awesome. Everyone got into a loading screen, then nothing happened and the group disbanded automatically. We all lost our weekly ticket anyway, and are now locked out of doing the 8man. Unlucky.

It's mindboggling how bad the EU server situation is, and how Amazon fails to provide a solid infrastructure that allows them to dynamically add to the needs of the game. Instead the only solution they can come up with is an EU2 region that is completely removed from the first EU region, so you cannot even play with your friends. A sad state of affairs when a solid game gets ruined by a dogshit publisher like this, even BDO did better than that.
 

Sykar

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Lost my 8man Abyssal entry chance this week due to dogshit servers. Awesome. Everyone got into a loading screen, then nothing happened and the group disbanded automatically. We all lost our weekly ticket anyway, and are now locked out of doing the 8man. Unlucky.

It's mindboggling how bad the EU server situation is, and how Amazon fails to provide a solid infrastructure that allows them to dynamically add to the needs of the game. Instead the only solution they can come up with is an EU2 region that is completely removed from the first EU region, so you cannot even play with your friends. A sad state of affairs when a solid game gets ruined by a dogshit publisher like this, even BDO did better than that.

You would think after the disaster that was Amazon's own MMO companies would learn. Guess I am too optimistic still.
 

Dexter

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Not at all interested in Lost Ark, but all the flak it now gets for the representation of female characters is pretty good advertising, damn.
Afaik they already changed a bunch of things like default costumes and blackface'd a bunch of characters "for a Western audience" during porting. Really fucking annoying how they have to smear their bullshit fucking ideology over everything and even change things they had no hand in the creation of:
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https://gamerant.com/lost-ark-mmo-amazon-localization-controversy-diversity/
 

ElectricOtter

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a lot of stuff

dude, you sound almost as that guy "i watched the whole cowboy bebop, it's a light comedy and a bad one, and as proof of the anime's lack of quality here's a transcript of the live adaptation, and if you disagree you're retarded".

idgi use less gay example pls using superior anime

Beyond that it's pretty retarded to complain about games like Path of Exile or Lost Ark where people can play them for free and enjoy them and finish their story campaigns, for the most part, for hundreds of hours without having to spend a dime on them

lmao if ur playing them for hundreds of hours ur gonna eventually shell out money since that is how these goon games are designed u easily swayed dumbfuck ^.^

lost ark is even worse cuz the whole p2w aspects becomes a literal gamble of "maybe you get the upgrade, maybe you dont idk" which is highly present in gacha mobile games and since lost ark puts emphasis on group content this will make those aspects even worse

just cuz u have some faggy fixation with a shit game doesnt abruptly make it good and "this is like that one game from like two decades ago before any of this shit was everywhere when..." as some copium inhaler is lollersk8s :3

i think whats sad about this is at least the streamers/thumbnail creators are getting paid to tell ppl this game is kewl and hip meanwhile the likes of Sykar and yourself are doing this because you have been thoroughly and successfully infl00enced to now shill by proxy and look like gambling degenerates that scrounge around in there car looking between the seats for quarters to hit the slots with for one more chance dopamine hit xd
 

ElectricOtter

Guest
Not at all interested in Lost Ark, but all the flak it now gets for the representation of female characters is pretty good advertising, damn.
Afaik they already changed a bunch of things like default costumes and blackface'd a bunch of characters "for a Western audience" during porting. Really fucking annoying how they have to smear their bullshit fucking ideology over everything and even change things they had no hand in the creation of:
0t0yRAG.jpeg
os1xou48bj671crkvd.jpg
1VbK8jP.jpeg
FCVBQbQ.jpeg
daWpw50.jpeg
aPgiY8h.jpeg
https://gamerant.com/lost-ark-mmo-amazon-localization-controversy-diversity/

anal raping ur wallet is kewl but dont u dare add clothing to my waifu that is where i draw the line ethically xd
 

Gerrard

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Not at all interested in Lost Ark, but all the flak it now gets for the representation of female characters is pretty good advertising, damn.
Afaik they already changed a bunch of things like default costumes and blackface'd a bunch of characters "for a Western audience" during porting. Really fucking annoying how they have to smear their bullshit fucking ideology over everything and even change things they had no hand in the creation of:
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And these are the same people who cry about colonialism.
Rope is the only solution.
 

gurugeorge

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Strap Yourselves In
Worth A Buy just gave it a good drubbing (mainly because it's far too easy). Sounds awful. I must admit, I thought the graphics looked pretty cool and I had it downloaded, but it was so slow to load up for me and the first few minutes in-game were so instantly tiresome that I immediately deleted it.

 

Cromwell

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Worth A Buy just gave it a good drubbing (mainly because it's far too easy). Sounds awful. I must admit, I thought the graphics looked pretty cool and I had it downloaded, but it was so slow to load up for me and the first few minutes in-game were so instantly tiresome that I immediately deleted it.



hes retarded.

the first thing he says about classes is already wrong. There are no healer /tank/dps/support classes. I think two classes can heal and I dont even know how exactly it works but its not the traditional themepark mmo way. He then laughs about a dungeon thats way to easy because he and his woman did it together where its supposed to be with healer / tank/ dps. Its not but he doesnt know that, you can do everything single while levelling dungeons scale up depending on how many people you bring up to four. He did it on hard and tehy died a few times, so much for easy because I did it solo on hard and did not die. The instant respawn is also only half correct because you need some feathers or something to ressurrect and as far as I know this shit doesnt work in endgame dungeons.

stopped watching there becasue I dont think he will be right about other things and its grating hearing his stupid laugh while he is talking nonsense.
 

SmartCheetah

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This "WorthABuy" dude played 20something levels(You start on level 10) so he basicly said that the game is shit after 2-3 hours worth of gameplay, lol. That's some thorough reviewing right there! Saying that it took him 11 hours is silly, but I get it - He's from the YouTube crowd. He wanted "challange" in the early levels of the game which relies on endgame content mostly(and it's being said over and over again, everywhere) What a fucking tool that guy is. And I liked some of his reviews in the past.

Anyway, I'm enjoying this game for what it is. It's not PoE, but still pretty relaxing experience (except for huge queues).
If you want something more hardcore and fun just rush to level 50 (Which isn't a grind as you level up very fast even as F2P player) as this game has a lot to offer and is drowning in content - all in all it's been out for several years on Asian market.
 
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Puukko

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Damn, abyss dungeons are tough. After fighting the matchmaking boss for most of the evening, we cleared the first 460 dungeon and despite there only being two bosses, it took us a solid hour and a dozen attempts per boss. Instant party wipes upon failing mechanics are the rule here. Definitely the most intensive "normal" difficulty dungeon experience I've had.

Likewise, the guardian raids quickly become very hard. I spent a couple hours on the 420 boss earlier - I only got one out of two kills, and that was because someone carried us with 85% damage done. I'm dreading trying out the next guardian.

All of this serves as a great l2p lesson, though. "too easy" my ass.
 

luj1

You're all shills
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pve is easy up until lvl 50 or so

pvp is super hard

all these fags who play for 2 hours and complain can go fuck themselves
 

Sykar

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Oh please the only thing hard for raids in "traditional" MMOs is hoping that of the 20-40 retards in your group none fucks up. I remember the "nightmare" of Thaddeus in WoW WotlK where there was almost always someone who was too stupid to realize the difference between going left side or right side.
It is precisely because I do not of have to endure grueling hours of tedious wiping that I play games like this. That and bosses being too fucking stupid to just go after healers non-stop. "Trinity" system is the dumbest shit ever invented for online games and I avoid it like the plague.
But you do you and believe that that crap is "hard".
 

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